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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;All the talk about hair sprays, etc to counter photo-radar wouldn&#039;t &lt;br&gt; be needed if each state banned the use of photo-radar as has happened &lt;br&gt; here in NJ. &#160;Now I&#039;ll be the first to admit that NJ hasn&#039;t been the &lt;br&gt; most friendly environment for drivers, but the proposed use of &lt;br&gt; photo-radar so outraged the citizenry that the legislature passed &lt;br&gt; a law nanning its use for speed enforcement in almost record time. &lt;br&gt; The vote was almost unanimous in both the NJ senate and assembly. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Given the &quot;liberal&quot; attitude in many other states, I&#039;m surprised that &lt;br&gt; folks just &quot;let it happen&quot; without getting outraged and expressing &lt;br&gt; that outrage to their elected officials. &#160;Major points to focus on &lt;br&gt; is the unfairness of photo-radar.....it is used ONLY against the &lt;br&gt; registered owner of the vehicle. &#160;Unless the registered owner &lt;br&gt; identifies someone else as the driver (how many folks are going &lt;br&gt; to &quot;turn in&quot; there spouse, kids, parents, or friends?) the ticket &lt;br&gt; is the responsibility (fine, insurance points, etc.) of the owner. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;What happened to inocent unless PROVEN guilty? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;What about all the leased &lt;br&gt; vehicles, corporate registered vehicles, etc.? &#160;Come on folks, &lt;br&gt; don&#039;t just &quot;take-it,&quot; get outraged and fight it. &#160;That&#039;s what &lt;br&gt; Steve Carrelas and the rest of the NJ Chapter of National &lt;br&gt; Motorists Assn. did and now NMA is leading the fight for 65mph &lt;br&gt; limits on NJ&#039;s highways. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer&#039;s. &lt;br&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------- &lt;br&gt; Note - If email replying to me with an automatic addressing process &lt;br&gt; bounces, manually address the resend using one of the addresses below. &lt;br&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------- &lt;br&gt; Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.) &lt;br&gt; Morristown, NJ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; email via UUCP &#160; &#160; &#160;bcr!dancer!whs70 &lt;br&gt; 201-829-2879 Weekdays &#160; &#160; &#160;email via Internet &#160;wh...@dancer.cc.bellcore.com &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the talk about hair sprays, etc to counter photo-radar wouldn&#8217;t <br /> be needed if each state banned the use of photo-radar as has happened <br /> here in NJ. &nbsp;Now I&#8217;ll be the first to admit that NJ hasn&#8217;t been the <br /> most friendly environment for drivers, but the proposed use of <br /> photo-radar so outraged the citizenry that the legislature passed <br /> a law nanning its use for speed enforcement in almost record time. <br /> The vote was almost unanimous in both the NJ senate and assembly.  </p>
<p>Given the &quot;liberal&quot; attitude in many other states, I&#8217;m surprised that <br /> folks just &quot;let it happen&quot; without getting outraged and expressing <br /> that outrage to their elected officials. &nbsp;Major points to focus on <br /> is the unfairness of photo-radar&#8230;..it is used ONLY against the <br /> registered owner of the vehicle. &nbsp;Unless the registered owner <br /> identifies someone else as the driver (how many folks are going <br /> to &quot;turn in&quot; there spouse, kids, parents, or friends?) the ticket <br /> is the responsibility (fine, insurance points, etc.) of the owner.  </p>
<p>What happened to inocent unless PROVEN guilty?  </p>
<p>What about all the leased <br /> vehicles, corporate registered vehicles, etc.? &nbsp;Come on folks, <br /> don&#8217;t just &quot;take-it,&quot; get outraged and fight it. &nbsp;That&#8217;s what <br /> Steve Carrelas and the rest of the NJ Chapter of National <br /> Motorists Assn. did and now NMA is leading the fight for 65mph <br /> limits on NJ&#8217;s highways.  </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;jef...@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Jeff Brown) writes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160;I have heard of the hair spray thing being used in Italy. &lt;br&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160;How about everyone wear Grocho eye glasses w/ the big eyebrows, or &lt;br&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160;Richard Nixon masks or maybe Gorrila suits when you drive. They have to &lt;br&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160;match drivers license pictures with vehicle regestraion to get a convictio &lt;br&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160;anyway. Also then you give&#039;em th bird when you fly by.:&#039;) &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;How about a brick tossed out the window? &#160;How about a shotgun? &#160;How about &lt;br&gt; running the KaPRS over? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;----- &lt;br&gt; &#160;Dan Reed (Blu-Max) b...@cellar.org - AutoCad Geek - VW Lover - InlineSkater &lt;br&gt; 68 Cougar XR-7, 89 VW Golf, 72 Honda CL360Twin, Ti/99/4a, Vextrex, Timex &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:jef...@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com">jef&#8230;@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com</a> (Jeff Brown) writes:  </p>
<p>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;I have heard of the hair spray thing being used in Italy. <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;How about everyone wear Grocho eye glasses w/ the big eyebrows, or <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;Richard Nixon masks or maybe Gorrila suits when you drive. They have to <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;match drivers license pictures with vehicle regestraion to get a convictio <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;anyway. Also then you give&#8217;em th bird when you fly by.:&#8217;) </p>
<p>How about a brick tossed out the window? &nbsp;How about a shotgun? &nbsp;How about <br /> running the KaPRS over?  </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211; <br /> &nbsp;Dan Reed (Blu-Max) <a href="mailto:b...@cellar.org">b&#8230;@cellar.org</a> &#8211; AutoCad Geek &#8211; VW Lover &#8211; InlineSkater <br /> 68 Cougar XR-7, 89 VW Golf, 72 Honda CL360Twin, Ti/99/4a, Vextrex, Timex </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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  &#160; &#160;I have heard of the hair spray thing being used in Italy. &lt;br&gt; &#160; &#160;How about everyone wear Grocho eye glasses w/ the big eyebrows, or &lt;br&gt; &#160; &#160;Richard Nixon masks or maybe Gorrila suits when you drive. They have to &lt;br&gt; &#160; &#160;match drivers license pictures with vehicle regestraion to get a conviction &lt;br&gt; &#160; &#160;anyway. Also then you give&#039;em th bird when you fly by.:&#039;) &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;I have heard of the hair spray thing being used in Italy. <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp;How about everyone wear Grocho eye glasses w/ the big eyebrows, or <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp;Richard Nixon masks or maybe Gorrila suits when you drive. They have to <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp;match drivers license pictures with vehicle regestraion to get a conviction <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp;anyway. Also then you give&#8217;em th bird when you fly by.:&#8217;) </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article 13150...@hpsad.sad.hp.com, e...@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Eric Lucas) writes: &lt;br&gt; Just got my license plates for my new Saturn and remembered reading something &lt;br&gt; about defeating photo radar by spraying clear enamel on the plates. &#160;I think I &lt;br&gt; read something about using 8 coats of Krylon. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Could someone refresh my memory. &#160;I think the enamel causes a glare on the &lt;br&gt; photo when the camera flash goes off. &#160;I frequently drive through Cupertino &lt;br&gt; which uses photo radar mounted in a Jeep Cherokee. &#160;Any help would be much &lt;br&gt; appreciated. &#160;Thanks in advance. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Eric Lucas &lt;br&gt; Hewlett Packard &lt;br&gt; Signal Analysis Division &lt;br&gt; Industrial Design &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;There must be *some* truth to this theory. &#160;While in the Canary Islands last &lt;br&gt; year, one person told me that they spray their plates with Hair Spray to defeat &lt;br&gt; the photo radar! &#160;Seemed a bit strange to me at the time. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;--- &lt;br&gt; Gary W. Cook, Education Manager &lt;br&gt; Intercontinental Operations &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Tel: 415-688-9371 &lt;br&gt; Sun Microsystems, Inc. &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Fax: 415-688-9025 &lt;br&gt; 2550 Garcia Ave. &#160;MS MPK2-01 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Email: gary.c...@Sun.COM &lt;br&gt; Mountain View, Ca &#160;94303-1100 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Compuserve: 73567,2774 &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article <a href="mailto:13150...@hpsad.sad.hp.com">13150&#8230;@hpsad.sad.hp.com</a>, <a href="mailto:e...@hpsad.sad.hp.com">e&#8230;@hpsad.sad.hp.com</a> (Eric Lucas) writes: <br /> Just got my license plates for my new Saturn and remembered reading something <br /> about defeating photo radar by spraying clear enamel on the plates. &nbsp;I think I <br /> read something about using 8 coats of Krylon. <br /> 
<p>Could someone refresh my memory. &nbsp;I think the enamel causes a glare on the <br /> photo when the camera flash goes off. &nbsp;I frequently drive through Cupertino <br /> which uses photo radar mounted in a Jeep Cherokee. &nbsp;Any help would be much <br /> appreciated. &nbsp;Thanks in advance.  </p>
<p>Eric Lucas <br /> Hewlett Packard <br /> Signal Analysis Division <br /> Industrial Design  </p>
<p>There must be *some* truth to this theory. &nbsp;While in the Canary Islands last <br /> year, one person told me that they spray their plates with Hair Spray to defeat <br /> the photo radar! &nbsp;Seemed a bit strange to me at the time.  </p>
<p>&#8212; <br /> Gary W. Cook, Education Manager <br /> Intercontinental Operations &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Tel: 415-688-9371 <br /> Sun Microsystems, Inc. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Fax: 415-688-9025 <br /> 2550 Garcia Ave. &nbsp;MS MPK2-01 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Email: <a href="mailto:gary.c...@Sun.COM">gary.c&#8230;@Sun.COM</a> <br /> Mountain View, Ca &nbsp;94303-1100 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Compuserve: 73567,2774 </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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  Eric Lucas (e...@hpsad.sad.hp.com) wrote: &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;: Just got my license plates for my new Saturn and remembered reading something &lt;br&gt; : about defeating photo radar by spraying clear enamel on the plates. &#160;I think I &lt;br&gt; : read something about using 8 coats of Krylon. &lt;br&gt; : &lt;br&gt; : Could someone refresh my memory. &#160;I think the enamel causes a glare on the &lt;br&gt; : photo when the camera flash goes off. &#160;I frequently drive through Cupertino &lt;br&gt; : which uses photo radar mounted in a Jeep Cherokee. &#160;Any help would be much &lt;br&gt; : appreciated. &#160;Thanks in advance. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Not in direct answer to your question, but here goes : &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;When photo radar was brought in over here, a guy was selling plate covers &lt;br&gt; made of polarized plastic, with vertical polarization. &#160;The result was that &lt;br&gt; the plates were unreadable at an angle from the side. &#160;The cops clamped down, &lt;br&gt; using a law stating that number plates were to be visible at all times.... &lt;br&gt; The guy went out of business. &#160;:-( &lt;br&gt;
  
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<p>: Just got my license plates for my new Saturn and remembered reading something <br /> : about defeating photo radar by spraying clear enamel on the plates. &nbsp;I think I <br /> : read something about using 8 coats of Krylon. <br /> : <br /> : Could someone refresh my memory. &nbsp;I think the enamel causes a glare on the <br /> : photo when the camera flash goes off. &nbsp;I frequently drive through Cupertino <br /> : which uses photo radar mounted in a Jeep Cherokee. &nbsp;Any help would be much <br /> : appreciated. &nbsp;Thanks in advance. <br /> 
<p>Not in direct answer to your question, but here goes :  </p>
<p>When photo radar was brought in over here, a guy was selling plate covers <br /> made of polarized plastic, with vertical polarization. &nbsp;The result was that <br /> the plates were unreadable at an angle from the side. &nbsp;The cops clamped down, <br /> using a law stating that number plates were to be visible at all times&#8230;. <br /> The guy went out of business. &nbsp;:-( </p>
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