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SPEECH ON SPEEDING W/IMPUNITY

I would greatly appreciate any ideas concerning how to avoid receiving a speedi
ng ticket.  I have a speech comm. class presentation due on Oct. 5.  I need eno
ugh practical methods to speak about for ten minutes.

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  1. admin says:

     (DJS…@psuvm.psu.edu) wrote:

    :I would greatly appreciate any ideas concerning how to avoid receiving a speedi
    :ng ticket.  I have a speech comm. class presentation due on Oct. 5.  I need eno
    :ugh practical methods to speak about for ten minutes.

    OK, OK, I’ll be the smart*ss…

    Don’t get caught.  :-)

    D(Heh,heh)P

  2. admin says:

    DJS…@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
    > I would greatly appreciate any ideas concerning how to avoid receiving a spee
    > ng ticket.  I have a speech comm. class presentation due on Oct. 5.  I need e
    > ugh practical methods to speak about for ten minutes.

    I’m sure you’ll get several other versions, but here’s mine. FWIW, I
    haven’t received a speeding ticket since 1982.

    1. Always, always have a radar detector.
    2. Figure the odds of a cop hiding 1/4 mile ahead of you. Is there a
    blind turn coming up? Could be a coop area..
    3. Keep track of who’s behind you. Especially beware of plain-looking
    cars occupied by a single male.
    4. stay out of the left lane unless necessary.
    5. drive a plain-looking car, no flashy wheels, no bumper stickers, and
    keep the body in good condition. In other words, be unnoticable.
    6. Don’t get distracted. If you’re going 70, you can come up on a new
    hidey-hole in only a few seconds. If you want to check a map or reach for
    that soda on the console, slow down to 60 for a few seconds.
    7. Beware of long, straight downhill roads. It’s even money there’ll be a
    cop at the bottom.
    8. If you can, let an equally fast driver get about 1/4 mile ahead of
    you. On a long cross-country drive on I-80, I’ve traded "scout" position
    with 3 or 4 other drivers for a stretch of 100-200 miles. It allows the
    middle drivers to relax a little while the nose and rear guards watch
    out.
    9. Police-band scanners are less than worthless, unless you *really* know
    how and where the locals usually operate. Trying to decipher locations on
    the fly will get you distracted from watching the road.
    10. Changing radio station/tape/CD? SLOW DOWN! The two seconds your eyes
    are off the road could get you a ticket – or accident.
    11. Resist the urge to do a high-speed pass by a marginally slow driver.
    You’ll be angry, and busily flipping him the bird while you *should* be
    watching for smokey.
    12. Your radar detector is only one of the countermeasures available to
    you – and not nearly as good as your eyes and common sense. Use them all.


    "A leopard never changes his stripes"
               – Al Gore, candidate for vice-president

  3. admin says:

    d…@major.panix.com (Dave O’Shea) writes:
    >DJS…@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

    >> I would greatly appreciate any ideas concerning how to avoid
    >> receiving a speeding ticket.  I have a speech comm. class presentation
    >> due on Oct. 5.  I need enough practical methods to speak about for
    >> ten minutes.

    <deletions>

    >8. If you can, let an equally fast driver get about 1/4 mile ahead of
    >you. On a long cross-country drive on I-80, I’ve traded "scout" position
    >with 3 or 4 other drivers for a stretch of 100-200 miles. It allows the
    >middle drivers to relax a little while the nose and rear guards watch
    >out.

    This is the key — cooperation.  Watch the sides of the road for cops,
    and keep watching for the un-marked cops, but also watch the other
    drivers.. they are keeping their eyes peeled also.  If you see the car
    in front of you go around a corner at 70 without seeing his brake
    lights, you can go around there fast also. (And the car behind you is
    watching you, etc.)  A high speed convoy (with a lot of room between
    cars) can really cover a lot of road fast.

    Of course this is all purely conjecture, I would never speed myself.

    Curt

  4. admin says:

    In article <54cTRB2w1…@major.panix.com> d…@major.panix.com (Dave O’Shea) writes:

    [other good advice deleted]
    [munch]

    >11. Resist the urge to do a high-speed pass by a marginally slow driver.
    >You’ll be angry, and busily flipping him the bird while you *should* be
    >watching for smokey.

    True.  You should never pass anyone with a great amount of speed difference
    between your cars.  Why?  The innocent looking guy in that Caravan could be
    an off-duty cop with a pencil and a phone!


    See Ya’
    — Glenn
                    If money can’t buy love, why do all my dates
                            start at the cash machine?

  5. admin says:

    d…@major.panix.com (Dave O’Shea) writes:
    >DJS…@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
    >> I would greatly appreciate any ideas concerning how to avoid receiving a spee
    >> ng ticket.  I have a speech comm. class presentation due on Oct. 5.  I need e
    >> ugh practical methods to speak about for ten minutes.
    >I’m sure you’ll get several other versions, but here’s mine. FWIW, I
    >haven’t received a speeding ticket since 1982.

    My record is not quite as perfect, but nearly.

    >1. Always, always have a radar detector.

    In Australia, radar detectors were banned about 2 years ago. The
    queer thing is, I still haven’t got a ticket. I now believe that the
    rest of the points are the most important. Keep you eyes open and
    pay attention.

    I know that I haven’t slowed down       :-)

    [ other points deleted for brevity ]

    david

    David Masters, Group Leader – UNIX,
    BHP Information Technology, Newcastle, AUSTRALIA.
    Internet: da…@bhpese.oz.au                   Phone: +61 49 402132

  6. admin says:

    In article <Sep30.012800.40…@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
    con…@CS.ColoState.EDU (glenn eldon conser) writes:
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    >You should never pass anyone with a great amount of speed difference
    >between your cars.  Why?  The innocent looking guy in that Caravan could be
    >an off-duty cop with a pencil and a phone!

    AHA!! So YOU’RE the infamous Doctor Bigone (Bi-GO-nay)!!! I *knew* it
    had to be a nom de plume! ;-)

    But seriously, another reason not to pass slower vehicles with too great
    a speed difference is the danger factor. After all, it’s not the speed
    your travelling that makes for dangerous driving conditions, but the RELATIVE
    speed between one vehicle and another. The closer your speed is to his,
    the lower your relative speed and the more reaction time you will have
    should he suddenly swerve to avoid taking out a ‘possum.

    Note that the relative velocity vs. danger curve is shaped like an
    inverted bell – danger is high when relative velocity is close to zero,
    as well, since when you pass someone at 1MPH speed difference you’re
    sitting next to them for mile after mile after mile, and are an easy
    target for ‘possum swerves. The best speed differential for passing is,
    of course, in the middle somewhere. I usually maintain about a 5 – 10
    MPH differential, which it more than enough at 65 MPH.

  7. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep30.073858.24…@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au> da…@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (David Masters) writes:

    >d…@major.panix.com (Dave O’Shea) writes:

    >>I’m sure you’ll get several other versions, but here’s mine. FWIW, I
    >>haven’t received a speeding ticket since 1982.

    >My record is not quite as perfect, but nearly.

    >>1. Always, always have a radar detector.

    >In Australia, radar detectors were banned about 2 years ago. The
    >queer thing is, I still haven’t got a ticket. I now believe that the
    >rest of the points are the most important. Keep you eyes open and
    >pay attention.

    >I know that I haven’t slowed down       :-)

    My experience is the same. I have been driving since 1980, and never
    owned a radar detector, yet after my first speeding ticket when I was
    17, my record has been perfectly clean despite my penchant for driving
    expediently. I attribute it simply to remaining alert while driving, and
    practicing things similar to those listed by the earlier posters. I
    never saw the need for a detector, since they’re basically useless
    against VASCAR (which we have in Illinois) and instant-on radar (since I
    always try to drive with a large space cushion around my car, there
    generally isn’t a vehicle close enough in front of me to get zapped
    first by an instant-on gun; thus, the first ping my detector would get
    would be aimed at me).

    I finally decided to get a radar detector (the V1). It got such a
    glowing review I couldn’t resist. It certainly won’t hurt, and I *like*
    the nice low insurance premiums on my muscle car and want to keep them that
    way. ;-)

  8. admin says:

    In article <92268.193819DJS…@psuvm.psu.edu> DJS…@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
    > I would greatly appreciate any ideas concerning how to avoid
    > receiving a speeding ticket.  I have a speech comm. class
    > presentation due on Oct. 5.  I need enough practical methods to
    > speak about for ten minutes.

    Probably the most effective way to avoid receiving a speeding ticket
    to become a cop. No cop will ever issue a speeding ticket to another
    cop. As a cop, you are free to break just about any traffic law you
    wish, with complete impunity.

    Mark

  9. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep30.181909.19…@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> rjw…@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade) writes:

    >>Probably the most effective way to avoid receiving a speeding ticket
    >>to become a cop. No cop will ever issue a speeding ticket to another
    >>cop. As a cop, you are free to break just about any traffic law you
    >>wish, with complete impunity.
    >gee….seems something is not quite right here.  certain people being ABOVE
    >the law….sorta like congress exempting themselves from the laws the rest
    >of american has to live by….oh well…i’m sure no one would ABUSE those
    >special privilages….

    Being a foreign diplomat (the kind with diplomatic plates) also helps.
    I`ve read much about this happening in NY, Washington, etc.

    Spiros


    Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    c2…@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
    Software Technology, Delco Electronics       striantaf…@kosds1.gm.hac.com
    GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904      [A Different Kind of Disclaimer]

  10. admin says:

    In article <Sep.30.12.19.38.1992.26…@aramis.rutgers.edu> rineh…@aramis.rutgers.edu (Mark J. Rinehart) writes:

    >In article <92268.193819DJS…@psuvm.psu.edu> DJS…@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

    >> I would greatly appreciate any ideas concerning how to avoid
    >> receiving a speeding ticket.  I have a speech comm. class
    >> presentation due on Oct. 5.  I need enough practical methods to
    >> speak about for ten minutes.

    >Probably the most effective way to avoid receiving a speeding ticket
    >to become a cop. No cop will ever issue a speeding ticket to another
    >cop. As a cop, you are free to break just about any traffic law you
    >wish, with complete impunity.

    >Mark

    gee….seems something is not quite right here.  certain people being ABOVE
    the law….sorta like congress exempting themselves from the laws the rest
    of american has to live by….oh well…i’m sure no one would ABUSE those
    special privilages….

  11. admin says:

     In article <92268.193819DJS…@psuvm.psu.edu> DJS…@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

    > I would greatly appreciate any ideas concerning how to avoid
    > receiving a speeding ticket.  I have a speech comm. class
    > presentation due on Oct. 5.  I need enough practical methods to
    > speak about for ten minutes.

    Drive the speed limit?

  12. admin says:

    con…@CS.ColoState.EDU (glenn eldon conser) writes:

    > In article <54cTRB2w1…@major.panix.com> d…@major.panix.com (Dave O’Shea) w

    > [other good advice deleted]
    > [munch]

    > >11. Resist the urge to do a high-speed pass by a marginally slow driver.
    > >You’ll be angry, and busily flipping him the bird while you *should* be
    > >watching for smokey.

    > True.  You should never pass anyone with a great amount of speed difference
    > between your cars.  Why?  The innocent looking guy in that Caravan could be
    > an off-duty cop with a pencil and a phone!

    That what FOP stickers are for!  *Never* piss off a person with a FOP
    sticker.

    —–
     Dan Reed (Blu-Max) b…@cellar.org – AutoCad Geek – VW Lover – InlineSkater
    68 Cougar XR-7, 89 VW Golf, 72 Honda CL360Twin, Ti/99/4a, Vextrex, Timex

  13. admin says:

    > But seriously, another reason not to pass slower vehicles with too great
    > a speed difference is the danger factor. After all, it’s not the speed
    > your travelling that makes for dangerous driving conditions, but the RELATIVE
    > speed between one vehicle and another. The closer your speed is to his,
    > the lower your relative speed and the more reaction time you will have
    > should he suddenly swerve to avoid taking out a ‘possum.

    > Note that the relative velocity vs. danger curve is shaped like an
    > inverted bell – danger is high when relative velocity is close to zero,
    > as well, since when you pass someone at 1MPH speed difference you’re
    > sitting next to them for mile after mile after mile, and are an easy
    > target for ‘possum swerves. The best speed differential for passing is,
    > of course, in the middle somewhere. I usually maintain about a 5 – 10
    > MPH differential, which it more than enough at 65 MPH.

            I assume you’re talking divided highway/freeway here! I wouldn’t
    want to overtake that slowly on a two-way country highway!

    Regards,
            Glenn Capuano

  14. admin says:

    In article <1992Oct2.061855.8…@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ka…@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Glenn Capuano) writes:

    >> Note that the relative velocity vs. danger curve is shaped like an
    >> inverted bell – danger is high when relative velocity is close to zero,
    >> as well, since when you pass someone at 1MPH speed difference you’re
    >> sitting next to them for mile after mile after mile, and are an easy
    >> target for ‘possum swerves. The best speed differential for passing is,
    >> of course, in the middle somewhere. I usually maintain about a 5 – 10
    >> MPH differential, which it more than enough at 65 MPH.

    >    I assume you’re talking divided highway/freeway here! I wouldn’t
    >want to overtake that slowly on a two-way country highway!

    ;-)

    You’re absolutely right. Passing on any highway without controlled
    access cheanges the rules entirely. Unfortunately, with many people it
    appears to be "don’t pass at all."

    Over the summer I took a road trip which included about 150 miles of
    two lane blacktop (and no, I don’t drive a Goat ;-) . I can’t count the
    number of times I came upon a "convoy" of vehicles moving at 50 MPH or
    less, with some truck or van+camper trailer at the front and a bunch of
    cars trailing behind, the drivers of which were too scared to attempt a
    pass. In most cases, the drivers would also tailgate, making it
    difficult to work one’s way up through the crowd one vehicle at a time.
    More than once I was forced to pass 4, 5, or 6 vehicles all at once.
    Not a real problem, but more dangerous than it needed to be, and I
    certainly didn’t do it with only a 5-10 MPH speed differential! ;-)

    I get the impression that many people who have been raised on expressway
    driving just can’t deal with a 2 lane road. They’ll come up behind a
    slower vehicle and just stay there, rather than pass it. I’m sure part
    of the problem is the Geo Metros some of these folks drive; in this
    situation, most "practical" cars get downright UNpractical. ;-) ;-)

  15. admin says:

    In article <BvI579….@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, t…@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:

    |>
    |> I get the impression that many people who have been raised on expressway
    |> driving just can’t deal with a 2 lane road. They’ll come up behind a
    |> slower vehicle and just stay there, rather than pass it.
    |>
    Several years ago in Arizona a state trooper came upon a line of cars moving  slowly and stopping right on the road.  He put on his lights and took off in the left lane at a high rate of speed.  He found out too late that the cars were stopped because a bridge had washed out in a flash flood.  :’{

  16. admin says:

    c…@vtucs.cc.vt.edu (Curt Tilmes) writes:
    >d…@major.panix.com (Dave O’Shea) writes:
    >>8. If you can, let an equally fast driver get about 1/4 mile ahead of
    >>you. On a long cross-country drive on I-80, I’ve traded "scout" position
    >>with 3 or 4 other drivers for a stretch of 100-200 miles. It allows the
    >>middle drivers to relax a little while the nose and rear guards watch
    >>out.
    >This is the key — cooperation.  Watch the sides of the road for cops,
    >and keep watching for the un-marked cops, but also watch the other
    >drivers.. they are keeping their eyes peeled also.  If you see the car
    >in front of you go around a corner at 70 without seeing his brake
    >lights, you can go around there fast also.

    This is not always a valid assumption. The guy going 70 could simply be an
    idiot who thinks that, since he has this whiz-bang Escort on his dash, he
    doesn’t need to watch for cops. So he whips around the corner doing 70 in a
    55 zone, and speeds merrily into a gaggle of 6 unmarked pursuit Mustangs,
    one of which has an instant-on Ka gun. He never even knew what hit him.

    Meanwhile, you come zooming around the turn, also at 70 MPH, since you have
    judged it safe to do so by the absence of brake lights on the lead car.
    It’ll be an expensive lesson.

    Don’t get me wrong; I’m all for allowing other fast cars to run interference
    for me. In fact, just a couple weeks ago it saved me from a nice 75-in-a-55.
    I simply never make assumptions like the above – I keep the same
    constant vigil I would if I were the lead car. The brake lights of the guy
    in front are just another data point.

    >Of course this is all purely conjecture, I would never speed myself.

    But of course! ;-)

    Scott Coleman                                                    t…@uiuc.edu

    Free Advice: It is inadvisable to read Bush’s lips at an official banquet.

  17. admin says:

    In article <BvI579….@news.cso.uiuc.edu> t…@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:

    >In article <1992Oct2.061855.8…@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ka…@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Glenn Capuano) writes:
    >Over the summer I took a road trip which included about 150 miles of
    >two lane blacktop (and no, I don’t drive a Goat ;-) . I can’t count the
    >number of times I came upon a "convoy" of vehicles moving at 50 MPH or
    >less, with some truck or van+camper trailer at the front and a bunch of
    >cars trailing behind, the drivers of which were too scared to attempt a
    >pass. In most cases, the drivers would also tailgate, making it
    >difficult to work one’s way up through the crowd one vehicle at a time.
    >More than once I was forced to pass 4, 5, or 6 vehicles all at once.

    One time I was headed (for all you NJites) down Mon Co 537 to Great
    Adventure from the east coast.  For all you non-NJites, it’s a one
    lane-in-each-direction road with a 50 mph limit (outside of towns) with
    hills and sporadic passing zones.  I came up on a line of 8 (EIGHT) cars
    just about bumper to bumper, with a empty space a 1.5 car lenghts long
    between cars 3 and 4 (from the back).  I signalled a lane change and gunned
    the gas to about half wide-open, and then signalled right as I approached
    the gap.  The van driver that was car #3 actually accelerated towars car #4,
    closing the gap off!!! SO, here I am in the left-hand lane doing 63 mph, with
    no where to go.  Oh, did I mention we were appoaching the top of a hill?  AND
    the end of the passing zone?  My options:

       1) Slam on the brakes and HOPE I can pull back into my lane when the
    5 (FIVE) cars that were following me zoom by me.
       2) Stay in the left hand lane and wait to die.
       3) Pull off on the left-hand shoulder and wait until all everyone else
          goes home.
       or (my personal favorite)
       4) floor the gas and try and beat the whole line to the top of the hill.
          By the time I zoomed in front of the lead pick-up truck, I was doing
          77 mph and sweating bullets.  

     Can you tell I hate un-courteous drivers?

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    Fast, faster, faster, faster, ready to explode
    Don’t want nothing left of me to scrape of the road
    Spirit……..OF THE WHEEL!!!!!!!
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  18. admin says:

    crl0…@hertz.njit.edu (Curt R Lindmark) writes:

    >Adventure from the east coast.  For all you non-NJites, it’s a one
    >lane-in-each-direction road with a 50 mph limit (outside of towns) with
    >hills and sporadic passing zones.  I came up on a line of 8 (EIGHT) cars
    >just about bumper to bumper, with a empty space a 1.5 car lenghts long
    >between cars 3 and 4 (from the back).  I signalled a lane change and gunned
    >the gas to about half wide-open, and then signalled right as I approached
    >the gap.  The van driver that was car #3 actually accelerated towars car #4,
    >closing the gap off!!!

    This is a lesson I learned early on: NEVER COUNT ON THE OTHER GUY to cooperate
    with you. Most of the time they will be courteous and help you out, but
    there’s gonna be that one time where the guy is an *ssh*l* (as in your example)
    or simply asleep at the wheel (VERY common, alas) and they won’t do whatever
    it is you need them to do, leaving you in a dangerous situation.

    Remember this the next time you’re thinking of pulling out onto that busy
    street in front of the low rider Delta 88 and you need him to slow down for
    you so you can complete the maneuver. ;-)


    Scott Coleman                                                    t…@uiuc.edu

    Free Advice: It is inadvisable to read Bush’s lips at an official banquet.

  19. admin says:

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    Khan (t…@uiuc.edu) wrote:
    > >       I assume you’re talking divided highway/freeway here! I wouldn’t
    > >want to overtake that slowly on a two-way country highway!

    > ;-)

    > You’re absolutely right. Passing on any highway without controlled
    > access cheanges the rules entirely. Unfortunately, with many people it
    > appears to be "don’t pass at all."

    > Over the summer I took a road trip which included about 150 miles of
    > two lane blacktop (and no, I don’t drive a Goat ;-) . I can’t count the
    > number of times I came upon a "convoy" of vehicles moving at 50 MPH or
    > less, with some truck or van+camper trailer at the front and a bunch of
    > cars trailing behind, the drivers of which were too scared to attempt a
    > pass. In most cases, the drivers would also tailgate, making it
    > difficult to work one’s way up through the crowd one vehicle at a time.
    > More than once I was forced to pass 4, 5, or 6 vehicles all at once.
    > Not a real problem, but more dangerous than it needed to be, and I
    > certainly didn’t do it with only a 5-10 MPH speed differential! ;-)

            Hehe…I know the feeling of being stuck behind a "convoy" like
    that. I live in a tourist area and just about every day it seems I get
    stuck behind a tourist travelling at 40-50kph. Unfortunately the roads are
    winding and there are hardly any places to pass…

    > I get the impression that many people who have been raised on expressway
    > driving just can’t deal with a 2 lane road. They’ll come up behind a
    > slower vehicle and just stay there, rather than pass it. I’m sure part
    > of the problem is the Geo Metros some of these folks drive; in this

                            ^^^^^^^^^^please explain this term!

    > situation, most "practical" cars get downright UNpractical. ;-) ;-)

            I haven’t come across many people who are unwilling to pass on the
    open road, maybe because there are fewer freeways and more major highways
    are two way, perhaps they don’t get a chance to become "freewayized". On
    the other hand, maybe I’ve just been lucky ;-) .

    Regards,
            Glenn

  20. admin says:

    In article <1992Oct5.024440.28…@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ka…@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Glenn Capuano) writes:

    >> I get the impression that many people who have been raised on expressway
    >> driving just can’t deal with a 2 lane road. They’ll come up behind a
    >> slower vehicle and just stay there, rather than pass it. I’m sure part
    >> of the problem is the Geo Metros some of these folks drive; in this
    >                    ^^^^^^^^^^please explain this term!

    A Geo Metro is a very small, very fuel-efficient car. Like most
    ultra-high-efficiency cars, it’s tiny engine is not much on acceleration
    (unless, of course, you add NITRO. ;-)

  21. admin says:

    In article <BvnH17….@news.cso.uiuc.edu> t…@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:

    >A Geo Metro is a very small, very fuel-efficient car. Like most
    >ultra-high-efficiency cars, it’s tiny engine is not much on acceleration
    >(unless, of course, you add NITRO. ;-)

    I’d expect that thing to need nitroglycerin rather than nitrous
    oxide.  The former will make it accelerate REAL fast.  Once.

    Matthew T. Russotto     russo…@eng.umd.edu      russo…@wam.umd.edu
    Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
    Just say NO to police searches and seizures.  Make them use force.
    (not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)

  22. admin says:

    In article <BvMECL….@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, k…@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes:

    |> crl0…@hertz.njit.edu (Curt R Lindmark) writes:
    |>
    |> >Adventure from the east coast.  For all you non-NJites, it’s a one
    |> >lane-in-each-direction road with a 50 mph limit (outside of towns) with
    |> >hills and sporadic passing zones.  I came up on a line of 8 (EIGHT) cars
    |> >just about bumper to bumper, with a empty space a 1.5 car lenghts long
    |> >between cars 3 and 4 (from the back).  I signalled a lane change and gunned
    |> >the gas to about half wide-open, and then signalled right as I approached
    |> >the gap.  The van driver that was car #3 actually accelerated towars car #4,
    |> >closing the gap off!!!
    |>

    Just think what the guy in the van thought when he realized that you were
    intending on jamming a car into a 1.5 car length gap of traffic moving at
    50 mph!!!  He was already doing something stupid being that close anyway.
    Here in California, the old 1 car length per 1o mph rule (which he was
    already grossly violating) has long ago been changed to a simple follow
    2 seconds behind.  Of course nobody does this.  But Curt Lindmark was
    jamming the line such that there was less than 10 feet between cars.  If
    I had been driving the van, I’d have run his ass off the road.  I don’t
    think its a matter of courtesy at that point, I think the buy jamming
    the line is the asshole.


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  23. admin says:

    In article <1992Oct06.022642.28…@eng.umd.edu> russo…@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes:

    >In article <BvnH17….@news.cso.uiuc.edu> t…@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:

    >>A Geo Metro is a very small, very fuel-efficient car. Like most
    >>ultra-high-efficiency cars, it’s tiny engine is not much on acceleration
    >>(unless, of course, you add NITRO. ;-)

    >I’d expect that thing to need nitroglycerin rather than nitrous
    >oxide.  The former will make it accelerate REAL fast.  Once.

    Actually, I was referring to a Geo Metro thread which ran its course
    here some time back. For the benefit of those who missed it, a brief
    recap:

    People were flaming Geo Metros for being putzily slow, and the proud
    Metro owners were defending their prides and joys, when some guy popped
    in and started bragging about how his "Nitro" equipped Geo Metro could
    blow away 5 Liter Mustangs in stoplight drag races. One of the responses
    was the same as yours above. Others included:

    Run a rubber hose from the nitrous tank into the Mustang and opening
    the stopcock. By the time the light turns green, the Mustang driver will
    be laughing too hard to notice that you’ve driven away and left him
    standing.

    -or-

    Run a rubber hose from the nitrous tank to the Mustang’s interior. Toss
    in a match, and FOOM! Then you can honestly say you blew the Mustang’s
    doors off. ;-)

  24. admin says:

     Khan (t…@uiuc.edu) wrote:
    > I get the impression that many people who have been raised on expressway
    > driving just can’t deal with a 2 lane road. They’ll come up behind a
    > slower vehicle and just stay there, rather than pass it.

    The problem I’ve observed in California is that population growth
    has resulted in many two-line highways being too crowded to pass.
    There’s *always* a convoy looming in the opposite direction.  I’m
    specifically thinking of east-west, trans-San Joaquin highways like
    4, 108, 120, etc.  And on mountain roads there’s *always* an RV or
    truck around the next bend, so why bother unless they’re going
    really slow.

    > I’m sure part
    >  of the problem is the Geo Metros some of these folks drive;

    I rented one these once.  I had to make a conscious effort to practically
    floor it to stay at 65 on the Interstate.


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