I am graduating from school and am interested in purchasing a small reliable car
– preferably hatchback.
Do you have recommendations of cars to consider buying and cars to consider NOT
buying.
Thanks,
Anne
ma…@cs.virginia.edu
28
Sep
reliable cars
In <1992Aug18.155734.3…@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ma…@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (M. Anne Shackelford) writes:
>I am graduating from school and am interested in purchasing a small reliable car
>- preferably hatchback.
>Do you have recommendations of cars to consider buying and cars to consider NOT
>buying.
I _HIGHLY_ recommend an ’81 or later Rabbit Diesel. I know someone who has
750,000 miles on one he drives daily, I had one that I sold with 305,000
miles on it (it still got 40-45 mpg on the hwy) and I currently own one with
about 125,000 miles on it. (My _new_ one.) They’re cheap to run, reliable,
can use most parts from 81-84 water cooled VW’s, and sound like a school bus
when you start them in cold weather. (Who could ask for more?) And I never
had any trouble with the old one in cold weather–even if I didn’t plug it
in at -10f. If you have any questions about the car, get in touch with me.
Anyone else have any long-lived diesels out there?
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tgpt_…@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) writes:
>I _HIGHLY_ recommend an ’81 or later Rabbit Diesel. I know someone who has
>750,000 miles on one he drives daily, I had one that I sold with 305,000
>miles on it (it still got 40-45 mpg on the hwy) and I currently own one with
>about 125,000 miles on it.
Why an 81 or later? My 1980 Rabbit Diesel just reached 148,000 miles and
still runs fine. Sure, the electrical system flakes out sometimes in the
rain, and random bits of the body are deteriorating, but the important
stuff still works just great. And, yes, I’m still getting over 40 MPG.
The latest bit of non-essental gear to break just happened this morning. I
parked where I couldn’t open the driver’s side door, so I was schooching
over to the passenger’s side door when my knee hit the cigarrette lighter
and took out the knob. Oh well, it’s probably the one part of the car
that’s never been used.
You see a lot of people with Rabbit Diesels who are fanatics about their
cars. How many Dodge Dart fanatics do you see?
—
r…@wombat.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Public Health Research Institute
455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016, USA
"This never happened to Bart Simpson."
I am looking for a used working VW AM/FM cassette reciever for my Jetta.
If any of you out there have one that’s been lying around or want to
replace it with a new system…here’s your chance to get rid of it
Let me know how much you want for it. Thanx.
Cheers
Rick
In article <1992Aug18.202616.22…@walter.bellcore.com> j…@faline.UUCP (Jyri Virkki) writes:
>>>I am graduating from school and am interested in purchasing a small reliable c
>>>- preferably hatchback.
>>>Do you have recommendations of cars to consider buying and cars to consider NO
>>>buying.
>>I _HIGHLY_ recommend an ’81 or later Rabbit Diesel. I know someone who has
>>750,000 miles on one he drives daily, I had one that I sold with 305,000
>>miles on it (it still got 40-45 mpg on the hwy) and I currently own one with
>>about 125,000 miles on it. (My _new_ one.) They’re cheap to run, reliable,
>>can use most parts from 81-84 water cooled VW’s, and sound like a school bus
>>when you start them in cold weather. (Who could ask for more?) And I never
>>had any trouble with the old one in cold weather–even if I didn’t plug it
>>in at -10f. If you have any questions about the car, get in touch with me.
>>Anyone else have any long-lived diesels out there?
Diesels: you either hate them or you love them. No in-betweens. I
suggest you take one for a ride and decide. If you don’t mind the
noise, exhaust smell, and poor acceleration, it may not be a bad
choice for you. IF any of these bother you, try something else.
>My father had a ’81 Rabbit Diesel, and it was absolutely the worst car I’ve
>ever seen, heard of, or even imagined.
Try a Yugo. Are there any left around? The Diesel Rabbits tend to
last a lot longer than the subcompacts that Ford, GM, Toyota, Honda,
and Nissan used to build back then.
>The only nice thing was the fuel
>economy, but it’s certainly not worth having a car that used to leave
>us stranded at _least_ five or six times a year. And, being the unpopular
>model (who buys diesels anyway?)
Those who want good fuel economy and expect to get several hundred
thousand miles from the engines. If gas went up to $5.00/gal, even
you would probably consider it.
>repairs and parts were wildly expensive.
Except for the engine components, the most parts are interchangeable
with the gasoline models (of which there are plenty at the junkyards).
As far as parts, I can get
tires ~$17.95
rear drums ~$20.00
front discs ~$20.00
front calipers ~$40.00
alternator ~$75.00
front pads ~$20.00
air filter ~$ 5.99
fuel filter ~$15.00
spark plugs 0
ignition wires 0
distributor cap 0
electronic ECU 0
carburator 0
Certainly A LOT CHEAPER than my Honda (88 Civic, 90k miles) or my
Eclipse (only 40k miles, no repairs so far, but maintenance costs are
higher).
As far as engine components, I haven’t had to replace any, so I can’t
comment about prices.
If you are willing to learn a bit about auto repairs, this car is an
excellent choice. The most difficult task I have encountered so far
has been adjusting the Air Conditioner belt. Solution: $25.00 at the
gas station around the corner for changing the AC and alternator
belts.
—
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—————————————————————-
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The MITRE Corporation Bedford, MA 01730 r…@linus.UUCP
In article <1992Aug18.220910.27…@linus.mitre.org> r…@frieda.mitre.org (Roberto L. Landrau) writes:
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>In article <1992Aug18.202616.22…@walter.bellcore.com> j…@faline.UUCP (Jyri Virkki) writes:
>>>I _HIGHLY_ recommend an ’81 or later Rabbit Diesel. I know someone who has
>>>750,000 miles on one he drives daily, I had one that I sold with 305,000
>>My father had a ’81 Rabbit Diesel, and it was absolutely the worst car I’ve
>>ever seen, heard of, or even imagined.
>>The only nice thing was the fuel
>>economy, but it’s certainly not worth having a car that used to leave
>>us stranded at _least_ five or six times a year. And, being the unpopular
>>model (who buys diesels anyway?)
>Those who want good fuel economy and expect to get several hundred
>thousand miles from the engines. If gas went up to $5.00/gal, even
>you would probably consider it.
>>repairs and parts were wildly expensive.
>As far as parts, I can get
>spark plugs 0
>ignition wires 0
>distributor cap 0
>electronic ECU 0
>carburator 0
>As far as engine components, I haven’t had to replace any, so I can’t
>comment about prices.
>Roberto L. Landrau KC1YP land…@mitre.org r…@linus.mitre.org
You left out one major part, which i suspect may have been what stranded
the previous poster… The injection pump! Don’t ever run a vw diesel out of
fuel!
Consumer Reports generally rates Toyotas, Hondas, and Mazdas high on
dependability. As far as repairs they can be expensive, and that is
usually the delema about buying foreign. Are these cars going to break
down so much less that it is worth the extra cost in repairs? American
cars are not rated as high but are gaining. Mercurys are the highest
rated but their emphasis is more toward luxury and mid-sizes to large
cars.Saturns are doing well and is gaining a reputation on dependability.
But Saturns don’t have to many varieties of cars, few dealerships, and
I believe a waiting list for new cars. I would strongly advise against
a Yugo, you get what you pay for. I almost forgot CR also rates Nissan
high. Not to many German motor companies seem to have small economy cars
for a reasonable price, they tend more toward luxury or performance.
I hope I have helped, and I wish you luck. Doug
In article <1992Aug19.054125.28…@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> lu…@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jonathan R. Lusky) writes:
] You left out one major part, which i suspect may have been what stranded
] the previous poster… The injection pump! Don’t ever run a vw diesel out of
] fuel!
I did this once. I usually keep the amount of fuel in my tank low. One time,
I was really low and was on my way to the fuel station. Somehow, like the
dunce I am, I forgot where I was going. As I passed the fuel station, my
throttle quit responding. I suddenly realized I was out of fuel and had just
passed the station. I pulled over into the next parking lot, ran back to the
station, bought a 1 gallon fuel can, filled it up, ran back to the car,
poured it in, and it started right up! Then I just drove back to the
station and filled it up. Somehow, it didn’t cause a problem to be out
of fuel!
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In article <1992Aug19.151437.23…@wuecl.wustl.edu> g…@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_) writes:
>throttle quit responding. I suddenly realized I was out of fuel and had just
>passed the station. I pulled over into the next parking lot, ran back to the
>station, bought a 1 gallon fuel can, filled it up, ran back to the car,
>poured it in, and it started right up! Then I just drove back to the
>station and filled it up. Somehow, it didn’t cause a problem to be out
>of fuel!
That’s because the injection pump is self priming. NO need to worry
about that anymore.
C
In article <1992Aug19.131836.20…@mcnc.org> bro…@mcnc.org (Ted Brooks) writes:
). You could always tell
>You obviously haven’t run across too many Dart owners. They were popular among
>many taxicab companies and lazy owners because the slant 6 engine was virtually
>indestructible. I only know of 2 people who killed a Dodge/Plymouth slant 6
>before 150,000 miles – both had a habit of neither changing nor checking their
>oil. The only odd thing about them was the solid valve lifters. Nobody ever
>adjusted them (at least till they met up with me
>a slant 6 going down the road from the tap of misadjusted tappets, but it
>never seemed to hurt them very much.
>Ted Brooks
Ted is correct. I onced owned a ’65 Plymouth Valiant with a slant 6.
Virtually indestructable. Witness the day my wife drove the thing
without water in the radiator, pulled into a gas station, turned off
the engine and then attempted to put water in the radiator. The only
thing that cracked was the cast iron housing that attaches to the
block that covers the thermostat. I parked the car for 3 months. One
day, I had to move it from the parking lot. I put in water, it
cranked 3 times and started. Immediately drove to a parts store and
replaced the little metal thing. Thereafter, it was driven for
several thousand miles. When I gave it to a buddy, I think it had
about 190,000 on the meter. It didn’t burn much oil, but it sure used
a lot. The rear seal had worn out. I understand it was used for
about another year in that condition before the engine was recycled
after being rebuilt and the body was sent to the bone yard. Never had
another car like that . . . never.
How do you know that you’ve got a reliable car? It’s when your
college buddies come by for a visit and say, ‘You still driving that
thing?’
C
DISCLAIMER: DIESELS – you either love them or hate them.
I completely agree (from experience with my Mercedes diesel) with those
who have said that diesels as reliable and economical. They simply
don’t die. Period.
For those who think that they’re slow, rough, and smoke, these are things
of the *past*. Just try a new Mercedes diesel and the gas model and see if
you can tell the difference!
When the next generation Golf/Jetta make their debut in a few months here they
will have a new (finally!) diesel/turbodiesel 1.9 liter engine, that pumps out
as much horsepower and a lot more torque than there gas engines of a just a
few years ago. Moreover, VW claims, like Mercedes, that this new "ECO diesel"
produces virtualy no visible particulate emissions (no more smoking!).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
These new models are currently being sold in Europe where they are being
marketed as "environmentally friendly" cars.
As for those who think "who buys diesels anyway", well, in Europe diesel
car sales have been *increasing* consistently every year for over a decade.
1992 is projected to be another "record" year.
With new emission standards taking effect this year in Britain, the diesel
is being touted as the "green" engine because its emissions are *less* than
those of gas engines. The government is offering incentives to buyers that
go diesel. You can get diesels in Europe in every thing from Fiats to BMWs.
Anyway, I know I’ve strayed somewhat from the subject, but I happen to be
one of those people that LOVES diesels. Can’t see myself ever buying a
gas model when a diesel is available.
If I couldn’t afford a Mercedes diesel, the new Golf/Jetta diesels would
be the *only* cars on my list.
BTW, there is a fabulous British monthly magazine called "Diesel Car".
For those interested, just email me for the address.
In <1992Aug19.054125.28…@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> lu…@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jonathan R. Lusky) writes:
>You left out one major part, which i suspect may have been what stranded
>the previous poster… The injection pump! Don’t ever run a vw diesel out of
>fuel!
And don’t forget to drain the water from the fuel filter.
–
|Tom Guptill | tgpt_…@uhura.cc.rochester.edu |
|CPU Box 277445 U of R | tgpt_…@db1.cc.rochester.edu |
|Rochester, NY 14627 | |
|(716) 274-0351 | |
In article <1992Aug18.190956.27…@phri.nyu.edu> r…@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
>tgpt_…@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) writes:
>>I _HIGHLY_ recommend an ’81 or later Rabbit Diesel. I know someone who has
>You see a lot of people with Rabbit Diesels who are fanatics about their
VW owners, back from the early days of the beetles, have always been fanatics.
VWs just seem to be a love ‘em or hate ‘em kind of car.
>cars. How many Dodge Dart fanatics do you see?
>–
You obviously haven’t run across too many Dart owners. They were popular among
). You could always tell
many taxicab companies and lazy owners because the slant 6 engine was virtually
indestructible. I only know of 2 people who killed a Dodge/Plymouth slant 6
before 150,000 miles – both had a habit of neither changing nor checking their
oil. The only odd thing about them was the solid valve lifters. Nobody ever
adjusted them (at least till they met up with me
a slant 6 going down the road from the tap of misadjusted tappets, but it
never seemed to hurt them very much.
Ted Brooks
______________________________________________________________________
| Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own, and do not reflect |
| those of my employer. Advice is free, but you get what you pay for. |
| ________ |
| _____| 1955 |_______ |
| / Chevrolet / |
| /______ BelAir _____/ |
| |________| |
|______________________________________________________________________|
In <1992Aug19.160444.4…@microplex.com> h…@microplex.com (Harjeet Kalsi) writes:
>DISCLAIMER: DIESELS – you either love them or hate them.
>When the next generation Golf/Jetta make their debut in a few months here they
>will have a new (finally!) diesel/turbodiesel 1.9 liter engine, that pumps out
>as much horsepower and a lot more torque than there gas engines of a just a
>few years ago. Moreover, VW claims, like Mercedes, that this new "ECO diesel"
>produces virtualy no visible particulate emissions (no more smoking!).
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>These new models are currently being sold in Europe where they are being
>marketed as "environmentally friendly" cars.
They’ve been available here now for at least a year, I think. Odd, you
would think GBR would get them before we did.
–
|Tom Guptill | tgpt_…@uhura.cc.rochester.edu |
|CPU Box 277445 U of R | tgpt_…@db1.cc.rochester.edu |
|Rochester, NY 14627 | |
|(716) 274-0351 | |
In article <PK16.92Aug19081…@mushroom.frc.ri.cmu.edu> p…@frc.ri.cmu.edu (Paul Keller) writes:
>…). As far as I know, the only
>problem she had with it was when the last of the bolts holding the
>transmission to the engine vibrated out – then when you put your foot
>on the clutch, it just pulled the transmission away – the shop said it
>was an amazing sight. That lets you know how much these things
>vibrate.
Sounds kinda like one of the better Candid Camera episodes – the
one where they remove the engine from a car and push it down a
hill. The lady pulls it (coasting, of course) into a service
station and says "my engine seems to be making strange noises!
Could someone look at it?" The pump-jockey opens the hood and
finds no engine – look of incredulity…lady says "it was running
fine and then started making strange noises. Perhaps it needs
the oil changed" or some idiotic statement like that. Guy goes
in the station, comes out with his boss. Boss looks at it.
They both scratch their heads. Look at the lady in disbelief…
John
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In article <1992Aug18.202616.22…@walter.bellcore.com> j…@faline.UUCP (Jyri Virkki) writes:
>>>I am graduating from school and am interested in purchasing a small reliable c
>>>- preferably hatchback.
>>>Do you have recommendations of cars to consider buying and cars to consider NO
>>>buying.
>>I _HIGHLY_ recommend an ’81 or later Rabbit Diesel. I know someone who has
>> .
>> .
>> .
>My father had a ’81 Rabbit Diesel, and it was absolutely the worst car I’ve
> .
> .
> .
>Jyri
>Jyri J. Virkki – Bellcore, Morristown, NJ – j…@thumper.bellcore.com – DoD#561
>(201) 829-4213 – j…@rummat3.upr.clu.edu – j…@rmece47.upr.clu.edu
For furhter discussion on this topic, PLEASE EXCLUDE rec.autos.sport
from the included newsgroups. It is not appropriate for our forum.
Thanks,
GBG
In <BtAIB4….@news.cso.uiuc.edu> t…@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
>Don’t forget the hard starting in winter as you sit there shivering
>while the glow plugs make enough heat to get the thing going…
Well, ’82 and later VW diesels have fast-glow plugs. Even with the
pre-glow cycle, my Rabbit still starts in less time than anything else I
drive regularly or any previous car I’ve owned. (’85 Plymouth Reliant, ’81
Ford Escort, ’81 Chevy Chevette, ’88 Ford Econoline 350, ’87 Dodge Ram
Van 350, ’88 Dodge Ram Van 350, and 2 Chevys of unknown vintage)
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|CPU Box 277445 U of R | tgpt_…@db1.cc.rochester.edu |
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Hey, wait a minute here. This is a RACING group, not a go-slow group.
If you’re not into turbos or nitrous injection, go away! (Please?)
—
Dave Fuller All opinions expressed are my own and not
Sequent Computer Systems those of Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
daful…@sequent.com
In article <1992Aug20.033849.11…@sequent.com> daful…@sequent.com (David Fuller) writes:
>Hey, wait a minute here. This is a RACING group, not a go-slow group.
>If you’re not into turbos or nitrous injection, go away! (Please?)
>–
>Dave Fuller All opinions expressed are my own and not
Oh come on Dave. Maybe the original poster was looking to buy a used F1 car.
(I’d suggest a Footworks) And another point…. since F1 cars don’t use
nitrous and don’t have turbos then people discussing them should go away!? :-)
Rob U, if it ain’t got a turbo and it don’t burn methanol it ain’t ….
–
– Rob Unglenieks REAL race cars DON’T wear BOWTIES –
– "Our task must be to free ourselves by widening our circle –
– of compassion to embrace all living creatures." –
– – Albert Einstein –
In article <pod.714268…@suite.sw.oz.au> p…@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul O’Donnell) writes:
>Get this thread out of rec.autos.sport.
[Arm thrust into air, heels clicked together smartly]: yessir, Herr Net
Police Doktor, sir! Do you wish we should kill them?
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>Phone: +61 2 698-2322 |
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Frigging dweeb.
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In article <1992Aug18.190956.27…@phri.nyu.edu> r…@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
] tgpt_…@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) writes:
] >I _HIGHLY_ recommend an ’81 or later Rabbit Diesel. I know someone who has
Count me in! I drive an ’84. It’s been involved in about 6 accidents. The
rear end got squashed in a rear-ender but was pulled back out. Each of the
front side fenders has been clobbered. the rear axle has been broken in
an off road excursion on an icy day. It has 100k miles. AND it gets
around 55 city / 65 hwy mpg!!! This is summer of course. I don’t drive it
much in the winter as it likes to be warm. It’s not that it runs poorly
in winter because it gets warmed up. But starting it is a hassle unless
you plug it in – a nice feature that VW provided!!! In high school, I’d
run an extension cord from the lobby to my car during the winter. All the
kids thought I had an electric car!
_____ "But you can’t really call that a dance. It’s a walk." – Tony Banks
/ ___\ ___ __ ___ ___ _____________ g…@cs.wustl.edu
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In article <1992Aug18.220910.27…@linus.mitre.org> r…@frieda.mitre.org (Roberto L. Landrau) writes:
] excellent choice. The most difficult task I have encountered so far
] has been adjusting the Air Conditioner belt. Solution: $25.00 at the
Have you tried changing the glow plugs!?! _THAT_ was hard!!!
_____ "But you can’t really call that a dance. It’s a walk." – Tony Banks
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On 19 Aug 92 16:04:44 GMT, h…@microplex.com (Harjeet Kalsi) wrote:
>DISCLAIMER: DIESELS – you either love them or hate them.
>As for those who think "who buys diesels anyway", well, in Europe diesel
>car sales have been *increasing* consistently every year for over a decade.
>1992 is projected to be another "record" year.
>With new emission standards taking effect this year in Britain, the diesel
>is being touted as the "green" engine because its emissions are *less* than
>those of gas engines. The government is offering incentives to buyers that
>go diesel. You can get diesels in Europe in every thing from Fiats to BMWs.
>Anyway, I know I’ve strayed somewhat from the subject, but I happen to be
>one of those people that LOVES diesels. Can’t see myself ever buying a
>gas model when a diesel is available.
[ Complaint mode on ]
Yes, I love them too. I had an ’81 Toyota Diesel Pickup which was totalled
out from under me after 120K miles of hard use. The original engine still
had compression within spec for a brand new one. Of course, Toyota had
stopped bringing them into the USA about 6 months before that, and I couldn’t
find a new one (or almost-new one) anywhere. In fact, it seems that
nobody except VW and Mercedes are bringing them in now. And nobody puts
one in a small pickup, van, or station wagon for under $30K.
I often wonder if Americans lost interest in diesels due to the horrid
Oldsmobile V8 and V6 diesels that GM sold so many of in the late 70′s
and early 80′s. I have yet to meet anybody who cares for their cars
who has had major trouble with any diesel except for the Oldsmobile
and the GM 6.2.
Anyway, just rub it in a little more about how you can get almost any
car you want with a diesel in it over there, while I have to buy yet
another computer-controlled gasoline-burner over here. :-( Does anybody
have any solid info as to why this is?
[ Complaint mode off ]
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In article <1992Aug18.190956.27…@phri.nyu.edu> r…@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
> You see a lot of people with Rabbit Diesels who are fanatics about their
> cars. How many Dodge Dart fanatics do you see?
Used to be quite a few. I have had two myself, and am still kicking myself
for selling my ’72 Dart Swinger in 1984. Car had 140,000 on it, and
ran like new. Oh well, live and learn…
-David
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