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Regarding Red Light Cameras – Why don't drivers just stop?.

Every stop light i’ve ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the driver to
get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.
Trouble is there are all these psychopathic drivers who see a light turn
yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the intersection and think
they have some sort of "right" to get thru even though they could easily
stop. Then they are caught by an RLC and whine about how unfair the system
is.

Red light runners kill and maim kids every day and belong in prison.

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35 Responses to “Regarding Red Light Cameras – Why don't drivers just stop?.”

  1. admin says:

    In article <Xns98EE794CC54CCriemann1850yahoo…@207.217.125.201>,
     "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > Every stop light i’ve ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the
    > driver to get thru the intersection before the light turns red or
    > else to stop. Trouble is there are all these psychopathic drivers who
    > see a light turn yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the
    > intersection and think they have some sort of "right" to get thru
    > even though they could easily stop.

    Their time is very valuable and shaving seconds off their travel time is
    very important–more important than you or me or the family in the
    minivan who is legally proceeding through a green light.

    Hopefully their dangerous driving will eliminate them from the gene pool
    before they have a chance to reproduce.

    Paul


     Paul Anderson
      OpenVMS Engineering
      Hewlett-Packard Company

  2. admin says:

    On Mar 9, 12:55 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"

    <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > Every stop light i’ve ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the driver to
    > get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.
    > Trouble is there are all these psychopathic drivers who see a light turn
    > yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the intersection and think
    > they have some sort of "right" to get thru even though they could easily
    > stop. Then they are caught by an RLC and whine about how unfair the system
    > is.

    > Red light runners kill and maim kids every day and belong in prison.

    I take it you’ve never been ass-ended while stopped at a red light.

    Start observing the society; it will convince you that all residents
    of this God-forsaken planet, including the politicians, belong in
    prison.

  3. admin says:

    Because one such stoplight camera ticketed a driver in a POLICE-
    ESCORTED funeral procession in nearby Greensboro, North Carolina.
    Stoplight cameras can’t distinguish between drivers obeying police
    officers and ordinary red light runners – as that case shows.

    No $4 to park!  No $6 admission!  http://www.INTERNET-GUN-SHOW.com

  4. admin says:

    On Mar 9, 1:55 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"

    <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > Every stop light i’ve ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the driver to
    > get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.

     I guess you can’t navigate this newsgroup a few threads down, where
    this thread covers the Lubbock city’s engineer own statement about
    light timing in proposing RLC…

    "Earlier this month, the station cited the rule-of-thumb that Lubbock
    City Engineer Jere Hart asserted as the basis for timing lights at
    city intersections. At most of the proposed camera intersections, Hart
    did not follow his own rule.
    At 82nd and University, the 50 MPH speed limit suggests the need for a
    5 second yellow, but it currently set at just 4.3 seconds. At 82nd and
    Frankford, the speed of traffic requires 4.5 seconds of yellow, but
    the public is only given 4.0. Milwaukee and 19th, a 55 MPH
    intersection, has a 4.4 second yellow when it should be 5.5. Parkway
    and Zenith has a 2.9 second yellow which is illegal under federal
    regulations mandating yellow times of no less than 3.0 seconds. Hart
    admitted the light should be 3.5 seconds.
    Last year, before the news investigation, Hart assured city council
    members that he would not increase yellow times. "

    So your premise as to yellow lights always being long enough duration,
    is, as usual, completely invalid to begin with.
    What a surprise!  :P

  5. admin says:

    In article <1173471618.827453.85…@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, edi…@netpath.net wrote:
    > Because one such stoplight camera ticketed a driver in a POLICE-
    > ESCORTED funeral procession in nearby Greensboro, North Carolina.
    > Stoplight cameras can’t distinguish between drivers obeying police
    > officers and ordinary red light runners – as that case shows.

    Now that’s a way to roll in the dough… have a cop direct traffic and
    let the RLC snap away.

  6. admin says:

    Paul Anderson <paul.ander…@hp.com> wrote in news:paul.anderson-
    35BE5C.14252709032…@usenet01.boi.hp.com:

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    > In article <Xns98EE794CC54CCriemann1850yahoo…@207.217.125.201>,
    >  "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >> Every stop light i’ve ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the
    >> driver to get thru the intersection before the light turns red or
    >> else to stop. Trouble is there are all these psychopathic drivers who
    >> see a light turn yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the
    >> intersection and think they have some sort of "right" to get thru
    >> even though they could easily stop.

    > Their time is very valuable and shaving seconds off their travel time is
    > very important–more important than you or me or the family in the
    > minivan who is legally proceeding through a green light.

    > Hopefully their dangerous driving will eliminate them from the gene pool
    > before they have a chance to reproduce.

    > Paul

    Damn right.  They are killers and maimers and along with speeders and drunk
    drivers the worst and commonest criminals in america.  But idiot americans
    are told reckless driving is cool and that’s what they believe.

  7. admin says:

    "MLOM" <gr…@netzero.net> wrote in
    news:1173470329.213673.209750@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

    > I take it you’ve never been ass-ended while stopped at a red light.

    No i never have so don’t give me that crap about how you HAVE to run the
    red light because the driver behind plans on running it!!!  You are an
    idiot and a mindless sheep.

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  8. admin says:

    "edi…@netpath.net" <edi…@netpath.net> wrote in
    news:1173471618.827453.85250@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:

    > Because one such stoplight camera ticketed a driver in a POLICE-
    > ESCORTED funeral procession in nearby Greensboro, North Carolina.
    > Stoplight cameras can’t distinguish between drivers obeying police
    > officers and ordinary red light runners – as that case shows.

    Get outa here, you idiot. Even if true that don’t prove a thing. People
    have  been mistakenly arrested for lots of crimes  Does that mean we
    legalize everything??  THINK

  9. admin says:

    "Sir Ray" <waterboi5…@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:1173471788.778848.63470@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:

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    > On Mar 9, 1:55 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
    > <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> Every stop light i’ve ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the
    >> driver to get thru the intersection before the light turns red or
    >> else to stop.

    >  I guess you can’t navigate this newsgroup a few threads down, where
    > this thread covers the Lubbock city’s engineer own statement about
    > light timing in proposing RLC…

    > "Earlier this month, the station cited the rule-of-thumb that Lubbock
    > City Engineer Jere Hart asserted as the basis for timing lights at
    > city intersections. At most of the proposed camera intersections, Hart
    > did not follow his own rule.
    > At 82nd and University, the 50 MPH speed limit suggests the need for a
    > 5 second yellow, but it currently set at just 4.3 seconds. At 82nd and
    > Frankford, the speed of traffic requires 4.5 seconds of yellow, but
    > the public is only given 4.0. Milwaukee and 19th, a 55 MPH
    > intersection, has a 4.4 second yellow when it should be 5.5. Parkway
    > and Zenith has a 2.9 second yellow which is illegal under federal
    > regulations mandating yellow times of no less than 3.0 seconds. Hart
    > admitted the light should be 3.5 seconds.
    > Last year, before the news investigation, Hart assured city council
    > members that he would not increase yellow times. "

    > So your premise as to yellow lights always being long enough duration,
    > is, as usual, completely invalid to begin with.
    > What a surprise!  :P

    Yes i read that thread and that’s what prompted me to start this one.  
    Hell, 3 seconds is plenty of time to either stop or get thru before the
    light turns red.

  10. admin says:

    Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:

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    > "Sir Ray" <waterboi5…@hotmail.com> wrote in
    > news:1173471788.778848.63470@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:

    >>On Mar 9, 1:55 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
    >><xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >>>Every stop light i’ve ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the
    >>>driver to get thru the intersection before the light turns red or
    >>>else to stop.

    >> I guess you can’t navigate this newsgroup a few threads down, where
    >>this thread covers the Lubbock city’s engineer own statement about
    >>light timing in proposing RLC…

    >>"Earlier this month, the station cited the rule-of-thumb that Lubbock
    >>City Engineer Jere Hart asserted as the basis for timing lights at
    >>city intersections. At most of the proposed camera intersections, Hart
    >>did not follow his own rule.
    >>At 82nd and University, the 50 MPH speed limit suggests the need for a
    >>5 second yellow, but it currently set at just 4.3 seconds. At 82nd and
    >>Frankford, the speed of traffic requires 4.5 seconds of yellow, but
    >>the public is only given 4.0. Milwaukee and 19th, a 55 MPH
    >>intersection, has a 4.4 second yellow when it should be 5.5. Parkway
    >>and Zenith has a 2.9 second yellow which is illegal under federal
    >>regulations mandating yellow times of no less than 3.0 seconds. Hart
    >>admitted the light should be 3.5 seconds.
    >>Last year, before the news investigation, Hart assured city council
    >>members that he would not increase yellow times. "

    >>So your premise as to yellow lights always being long enough duration,
    >>is, as usual, completely invalid to begin with.
    >>What a surprise!  :P

    > Yes i read that thread and that’s what prompted me to start this one.  
    > Hell, 3 seconds is plenty of time to either stop or get thru before the
    > light turns red.

    At what speed?

    (this is a test.  Be sure to include reaction time and a reasonable
    assumption for deceleration in your answer, and show your work.)

    nate


    replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
    http://members.cox.net/njnagel

  11. admin says:

    On Mar 9, 2:58 pm, "MLOM" <g…@netzero.net> wrote:

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    > On Mar 9, 12:55 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"

    > <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > > Every stop light i’ve ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the driver to
    > > get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.
    > > Trouble is there are all these psychopathic drivers who see a light turn
    > > yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the intersection and think
    > > they have some sort of "right" to get thru even though they could easily
    > > stop. Then they are caught by an RLC and whine about how unfair the system
    > > is.

    > > Red light runners kill and maim kids every day and belong in prison.

    > I take it you’ve never been ass-ended while stopped at a red light.

    > Start observing the society; it will convince you that all residents
    > of this God-forsaken planet, including the politicians, belong in
    > prison.

    Prison = 3 squares a day.

  12. admin says:

    On Mar 9, 12:23 pm, "Sir Ray" <waterboi5…@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Parkway > and Zenith has a 2.9 second yellow which is illegal under
    federal

    > regulations mandating yellow times of no less than 3.0 seconds. Hart
    > admitted the light should be 3.5 seconds.> What a surprise!  :P

    Are there really federal regulations mandating yellow light times? I
    live in Foster City, CA where there is a green light that changes to
    yellow and then red so fast it has completely cycled before I even got
    to the other side of the road (I’m not kidding). I’m a young driver,
    so I’m not one of those people who sit there for 30 seconds in front
    of a green light before I start to hit the accelerator. When that
    light hits green, I go! And about half way across the intersection it
    turns yellow, and by the time I hit the other side, it turns red.

    All this occurs when there is little traffic. Where I live is actually
    very modern as there are underground sensors that detect whether cars
    are waiting in the intersection or not. The reason I assume for the
    short light times on my side is to expedite traffic on all directions.

  13. admin says:

    On Mar 9, 3:45 pm, Nate Nagel <njna…@roosters.net> wrote:

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    > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:

    > > "Sir Ray" <waterboi5…@hotmail.com> wrote in
    > >news:1173471788.778848.63470@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:

    > >>On Mar 9, 1:55 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
    > >><xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > >>>Every stop light i’ve ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the
    > >>>driver to get thru the intersection before the light turns red or
    > >>>else to stop.

    > >> I guess you can’t navigate this newsgroup a few threads down, where
    > >>this thread covers the Lubbock city’s engineer own statement about
    > >>light timing in proposing RLC…

    > >>"Earlier this month, the station cited the rule-of-thumb that Lubbock
    > >>City Engineer Jere Hart asserted as the basis for timing lights at
    > >>city intersections. At most of the proposed camera intersections, Hart
    > >>did not follow his own rule.
    > >>At 82nd and University, the 50 MPH speed limit suggests the need for a
    > >>5 second yellow, but it currently set at just 4.3 seconds. At 82nd and
    > >>Frankford, the speed of traffic requires 4.5 seconds of yellow, but
    > >>the public is only given 4.0. Milwaukee and 19th, a 55 MPH
    > >>intersection, has a 4.4 second yellow when it should be 5.5. Parkway
    > >>and Zenith has a 2.9 second yellow which is illegal under federal
    > >>regulations mandating yellow times of no less than 3.0 seconds. Hart
    > >>admitted the light should be 3.5 seconds.
    > >>Last year, before the news investigation, Hart assured city council
    > >>members that he would not increase yellow times. "

    > >>So your premise as to yellow lights always being long enough duration,
    > >>is, as usual, completely invalid to begin with.
    > >>What a surprise!  :P

    > > Yes i read that thread and that’s what prompted me to start this one.  
    > > Hell, 3 seconds is plenty of time to either stop or get thru before the
    > > light turns red.

    > At what speed?

    > (this is a test.  Be sure to include reaction time and a reasonable
    > assumption for deceleration in your answer, and show your work.)

    > nate

    > —
    > replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel- Hide quoted text –

    > – Show quoted text –

    Want to bet on 41 in a 25?

  14. admin says:

    On Mar 9, 4:39 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"

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    <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > "Sir Ray" <waterboi5…@hotmail.com> wrote innews:1173471788.778848.63470@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:

    > > On Mar 9, 1:55 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
    > > <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >> Every stop light i’ve ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the
    > >> driver to get thru the intersection before the light turns red or
    > >> else to stop.

    > >  I guess you can’t navigate this newsgroup a few threads down, where
    > > this thread covers the Lubbock city’s engineer own statement about
    > > light timing in proposing RLC…

    > > "Earlier this month, the station cited the rule-of-thumb that Lubbock
    > > City Engineer Jere Hart asserted as the basis for timing lights at
    > > city intersections. At most of the proposed camera intersections, Hart
    > > did not follow his own rule.
    > > At 82nd and University, the 50 MPH speed limit suggests the need for a
    > > 5 second yellow, but it currently set at just 4.3 seconds. At 82nd and
    > > Frankford, the speed of traffic requires 4.5 seconds of yellow, but
    > > the public is only given 4.0. Milwaukee and 19th, a 55 MPH
    > > intersection, has a 4.4 second yellow when it should be 5.5. Parkway
    > > and Zenith has a 2.9 second yellow which is illegal under federal
    > > regulations mandating yellow times of no less than 3.0 seconds. Hart
    > > admitted the light should be 3.5 seconds.
    > > Last year, before the news investigation, Hart assured city council
    > > members that he would not increase yellow times. "

    > > So your premise as to yellow lights always being long enough duration,
    > > is, as usual, completely invalid to begin with.
    > > What a surprise!  :P

    > Yes i read that thread and that’s what prompted me to start this one.  
    > Hell, 3 seconds is plenty of time to either stop or get thru before the
    > light turns red

    Moron, people don’t have a zero second reaction time.

    The real question is what do you have against a yellow light that is 5
    seconds?

  15. admin says:

    On Mar 9, 3:34 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"

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    <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > "MLOM" <g…@netzero.net> wrote innews:1173470329.213673.209750@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

    > > I take it you’ve never been ass-ended while stopped at a red light.

    > No i never have so don’t give me that crap about how you HAVE to run the
    > red light because the driver behind plans on running it!!!  You are an
    > idiot and a mindless sheep.

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    > – Show quoted text –

    How about while behind OTHER stopped vehicles?  I’ve had that shit
    happen to me twice, because people just don’t give a rat’s ass,
    including cops.

  16. admin says:

    On Mar 9, 3:37 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"

    <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > "edi…@netpath.net" <edi…@netpath.net> wrote innews:1173471618.827453.85250@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:

    > > Because one such stoplight camera ticketed a driver in a POLICE-
    > > ESCORTED funeral procession in nearby Greensboro, North Carolina.
    > > Stoplight cameras can’t distinguish between drivers obeying police
    > > officers and ordinary red light runners – as that case shows.

    > Get outa here, you idiot. Even if true that don’t prove a thing. People
    > have  been mistakenly arrested for lots of crimes  Does that mean we
    > legalize everything??  THINK

    RLCs have even been known to ticket cops.  It’s not a matter of
    legalizing everything but simply making the enforcement reasonable.  A
    cop with radar and a good set of eyes is much more reasonable than a
    send-all-humans-to-prison-damn-quickly camera system.

  17. admin says:

    On Mar 9, 4:39 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" > Yes i
    read that thread and that’s what prompted me to start this one.  

    > Hell, 3 seconds is plenty of time to either stop or get thru before the
    > light turns red.-

    This incoherent thinking shows exactly why you, SADDAM, are unfit to
    offer traffic engineering advice at any level, but instead are much
    more suited to become a new addition to the Body Worlds exhibits…

  18. admin says:

    Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
    > Every stop light i’ve ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the driver to
    > get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.
    > Trouble is there are all these psychopathic drivers who see a light turn
    > yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the intersection and think
    > they have some sort of "right" to get thru even though they could easily
    > stop. Then they are caught by an RLC and whine about how unfair the system
    > is.

     >
    There are plenty of intersections where you attempt to roll through the
    green light that turns *instantly* to yellow and then red. You are
    trying to time things to avoid stopping and the idiots who program the
    lights think it’s funny to give you half second greens. So people are
    provoked to the run the lights. It’s too bad but maybe you could
    question the people who set the system up a bit more.

  19. admin says:

    Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:

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    > Paul Anderson <paul.ander…@hp.com> wrote in news:paul.anderson-
    > 35BE5C.14252709032…@usenet01.boi.hp.com:

    >> In article <Xns98EE794CC54CCriemann1850yahoo…@207.217.125.201>,
    >>  "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >>> Every stop light i’ve ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the
    >>> driver to get thru the intersection before the light turns red or
    >>> else to stop. Trouble is there are all these psychopathic drivers who
    >>> see a light turn yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the
    >>> intersection and think they have some sort of "right" to get thru
    >>> even though they could easily stop.
    >> Their time is very valuable and shaving seconds off their travel time is
    >> very important–more important than you or me or the family in the
    >> minivan who is legally proceeding through a green light.

    >> Hopefully their dangerous driving will eliminate them from the gene pool
    >> before they have a chance to reproduce.

    >> Paul

    > Damn right.  They are killers and maimers and along with speeders and drunk
    > drivers the worst and commonest criminals in america.  But idiot americans
    > are told reckless driving is cool and that’s what they believe.

     >
    The simple solution would be not to force drivers to stop at every
    light. Simply time the lights so that drivers don’t have to always stop.
    How hard is that? But they refuse to do that properly.

  20. admin says:

    Bill Bonde <tributyltinpa…@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
    news:est24m$j6h$5@news.datemas.de:

    > The simple solution would be not to force drivers to stop at every
    > light. Simply time the lights so that drivers don’t have to always
    > stop. How hard is that? But they refuse to do that properly.

    Oh shut up, you idiot!!!  So what if you have to stop for a stoplight?. You
    make it sound like the EOTW. You are a nutball.

  21. admin says:

    Bill Bonde <tributyltinpa…@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
    news:est20o$j6h$4@news.datemas.de:

    > There are plenty of intersections where you attempt to roll through
    > the green light that turns *instantly* to yellow and then red.

     There are no such stoplights. You are a bald-faced liar and a flaming
    nutball.

  22. admin says:

    "Larry Bud" <larrybud2…@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:1173478690.625721.3290@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com:

    > On Mar 9, 4:39 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
    > <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >> Yes i read that thread and that’s what prompted me to start this one.
    >>  Hell, 3 seconds is plenty of time to either stop or get thru before
    >> the light turns red

    > Moron, people don’t have a zero second reaction time.

    They do if they’re paying attention.  Trouble is nuts like you driving thru
    busy downtowns while yakking on a cellphone. Then a light turns yellow and
    you don’t see it till 3 seconds later and then a second later it changes to
    red and then you’re screaming about the stupid stoplights!!! URAMORON

  23. admin says:

    Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:

    > Bill Bonde <tributyltinpa…@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
    > news:est20o$j6h$4@news.datemas.de:

    >> There are plenty of intersections where you attempt to roll through
    >> the green light that turns *instantly* to yellow and then red.

    >  There are no such stoplights. You are a bald-faced liar and a flaming
    > nutball.

    You’ve been through every intersection in the country from every
    direction?  That’s the only way you could accurately make that statement.


    My parents thought I was a real wit, and they were half right.

                                                   –source unknown

  24. admin says:

    > I’m all for this as distracted drivers are killers and maimers. This is
    > one more reason why window tinting should be banned so cops can more
    > easily catch these creatures before they run over a kid.

    What about your piece of shit that has crappy tires?  What happens
    when you run over a kid?

  25. admin says:

    "Larry Bud" <larrybud2…@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1173472491.596865.158870
    @q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com:

    >> I’m all for this as distracted drivers are killers and maimers. This is
    >> one more reason why window tinting should be banned so cops can more
    >> easily catch these creatures before they run over a kid.

    > What about your piece of shit that has crappy tires?  What happens
    > when you run over a kid?

    My tires are fine.   Only got about 10K on them.  Cheapies, but they work.

     And BTW this thread is about drivers who eat, not bald tires, you moron.

  26. admin says:

    On Mar 9, 4:41 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"

    <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > "Larry Bud" <larrybud2…@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1173472491.596865.158870
    > @q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com:

    > >> I’m all for this as distracted drivers are killers and maimers. This is
    > >> one more reason why window tinting should be banned so cops can more
    > >> easily catch these creatures before they run over a kid.

    > > What about your piece of shit that has crappy tires?  What happens
    > > when you run over a kid?

    > My tires are fine.   Only got about 10K on them.  Cheapies, but they work.

    >  And BTW this thread is about drivers who eat, not bald tires, you moron.

    Then why are you talking about tinted windows?

    It’s about safety.  Who said anything about bald tires?  You (re)
    admitting to something?

  27. admin says:

    On Mar 9, 7:58 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"

    <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > A salesman has become the first driver to have points put on his licence> for eating a sandwich at the wheel.

    Looks like I won’t be driving in the UK anytime soon. I don’t always
    drive while eating with sandwich in hand but I will if I don’t have
    any time for lunch! =D

  28. admin says:

    "Larry Bud" <larrybud2…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

    news:1173472491.596865.158870@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com…

    >> I’m all for this as distracted drivers are killers and maimers. This is
    >> one more reason why window tinting should be banned so cops can more
    >> easily catch these creatures before they run over a kid.

    > What about your piece of shit that has crappy tires?  What happens
    > when you run over a kid?

    The tread marks aren’t as deep?

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  29. admin says:

    "Larry Bud" <larrybud2…@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:1173478179.748346.299200@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com:

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    > On Mar 9, 4:41 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
    > <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> "Larry Bud" <larrybud2…@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >> news:1173472491.596865.158870 @q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com:

    >> >> I’m all for this as distracted drivers are killers and maimers.
    >> >> This is one more reason why window tinting should be banned so
    >> >> cops can more easily catch these creatures before they run over a
    >> >> kid.

    >> > What about your piece of shit that has crappy tires?  What happens
    >> > when you run over a kid?

    >> My tires are fine.   Only got about 10K on them.  Cheapies, but they
    >> work.

    >>  And BTW this thread is about drivers who eat, not bald tires, you
    >>  moron.

    > Then why are you talking about tinted windows?

    Can’t you figure out anything? Cops can’t see what the driver is doing if
    the windows are tinted. THINK

  30. admin says:

    mahadra…@gmail.com wrote in
    news:1173478664.069096.28990@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:

    > On Mar 9, 7:58 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
    > <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> A salesman has become the first driver to have points put on his
    >> licence> for eating a sandwich at the wheel.

    > Looks like I won’t be driving in the UK anytime soon. I don’t always
    > drive while eating with sandwich in hand but I will if I don’t have
    > any time for lunch! =D

    Well then, you’re a psychopath. How many kids have you murdered by your
    distracted driving??

  31. admin says:

    Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:

    > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?
    > in_article_id=441082&in_page_id=1770&in_a_source=

    > http://tinyurl.com/37hcb6

    > Driver fined for eating his sandwich

    <snip>

    > Introduced at the end of last month, the ban covers all drivers who are
    > not fully in control of their vehicle.

    > Mr Pemberton, 29, spoke of his shock yesterday, claiming he had no idea
    > the mobile ban also covered his cheese and pickle sandwich.

    > ‘In my mind, I was completely in control of the car,’ he said.

    > ‘You see people putting on makeup and all sorts of things at the wheel.

    Logically, if eating a sandwich is prohibited than so also should be smoking a
    cigarette or taking a sip of a drink. Fiddling with the car audio must surely
    come close too.

    I strongly dislike legislation being hijacked for purposes that weren’t the
    original intent.

    Graham

  32. admin says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Larry Bud said in
    rec.autos.driving:

    << reply limited to r.a.d >>

    > > I’m all for this as distracted drivers are killers and maimers. This is
    > > one more reason why window tinting should be banned so cops can more
    > > easily catch these creatures before they run over a kid.

    > What about your piece of shit that has crappy tires?  What happens
    > when you run over a kid?

    Two words: lynch mob…..


    "My tars have been bald for two years.  
    Every month i glue some sandpaper to them and
    everythings cool."

    –Laura Buch murdered her boyfriend
    / laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE 10/25/05

    Message ID: s2ttl1tgnpq5pr6p48lr111p3lnvr4b…@4ax.com
    http://tinyurl.com/7p7xq

  33. admin says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Guy said in
    rec.autos.driving:

    > "Larry Bud" <larrybud2…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:1173472491.596865.158870@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com…
    > >> I’m all for this as distracted drivers are killers and maimers. This is
    > >> one more reason why window tinting should be banned so cops can more
    > >> easily catch these creatures before they run over a kid.

    > > What about your piece of shit that has crappy tires?  What happens
    > > when you run over a kid?

    > The tread marks aren’t as deep?

    Sand paper rash?


    "My tars have been bald for two years.  
    Every month i glue some sandpaper to them and
    everythings cool."

    –Laura Buch murdered her boyfriend
    / laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE / Speeders and
    Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS, 10/25/05

    Message ID: s2ttl1tgnpq5pr6p48lr111p3lnvr4b…@4ax.com
    http://tinyurl.com/7p7xq

  34. admin says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Speeders & Drunk
    Drivers are MURDERERS, a connoisseur of gay kid porn and the bodily
    fluids of goats, spewed forth this crapola all over the landscape in
    rec.autos.driving:

    > "Larry Bud" <larrybud2…@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1173472491.596865.158870
    > @q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com:

    > >> I’m all for this as distracted drivers are killers and maimers. This is
    > >> one more reason why window tinting should be banned so cops can more
    > >> easily catch these creatures before they run over a kid.

    > > What about your piece of shit that has crappy tires?  What happens
    > > when you run over a kid?

    > My tires are fine.   Only got about 10K on them.  Cheapies, but they work.

    Then explain your comments in the .sig.

    >  And BTW this thread is about drivers who eat, not bald tires, you moron.

    This thread is about whatever we in the r.a.d cabal (tinc) say it is
    about. And BTW, *you* are *not* a member of the cabal (tinc).


    "My tars have been bald for two years.  
    Every month i glue some sandpaper to them and
    everythings cool."

    –Laura Buch murdered her boyfriend
    / laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE  
    / Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS

    10/25/05

    Message ID: s2ttl1tgnpq5pr6p48lr111p3lnvr4b…@4ax.com
    http://tinyurl.com/7p7xq

  35. admin says:

    Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati…@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:45F22874.EE9573EE@hotmail.com:

    > Logically, if eating a sandwich is prohibited than so also should be
    > smoking a cigarette or taking a sip of a drink. Fiddling with the car
    > audio must surely come close too.

    Yes indeed. Drinking and smoking should also be banned. And letting people
    have radios and CDs in their car is total insanity. Drivers have been
    brainswashed into thinking that driving should be fun and to hell with
    safety.