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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;Did you try a quarter instead of the token? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;2dnqpt$...@netnews.upenn.edu&gt;, ri...@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E. Huque) writes... &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;When I first purchased the car, it would start instantly. &lt;br&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160;Later (few weeks) it began to loudly squeek before starting &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Put some oil in it &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160;it did). &#160;The car ran fine, but misfired LIKE HELL on deceleration. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Sounds like an exhaust leak &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160;Took it to several places - They said &quot;needs tune-up.&quot; &#160;However, &lt;br&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160;other sources say: One injector defective. &#160;($181.00/injector). &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Now, the car does not start at all. &#160;It did once, with a &lt;br&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160;jump start. &#160;I think it might be the starter, or more important, &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Does it crank? &#160;You didn&#039;t say. &#160;Spin faster! &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160;the &quot;cold start solenoid&quot; in the injection pump. &#160;&quot;SPICA&quot; injection &lt;br&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160;pumps are mechanically controlled. &#160;When the car does start, after &lt;br&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160;a jump, it does not stay on, unless I keep the revs up. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Enough humor. &#160;If it turns over with or without a jump, it&#039;s not the starter. &lt;br&gt; Backfiring in the exhaust is a sign that it could be loading up with gas &lt;br&gt; (bad injector, vacuum leak, loose tubing to the air inlet), or ignition &lt;br&gt; problems (bad points, wobbling distributor shaft due to wear, basic tune-up). &lt;br&gt; Check for vacuum leaks with some carb cleaner. &#160;Spray extra fuel into inlet, &lt;br&gt; RECONNECT ALL AIR INLET TUBING, then try to start. &#160;If it starts and runs, &lt;br&gt; cutting out a few minutes later, check the injectors including the cold-start. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Dave Rosicke &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you try a quarter instead of the token?  </p>
<p>In article &lt;2dnqpt$&#8230;@netnews.upenn.edu&gt;, <a href="mailto:ri...@spectre.sas.upenn.edu">ri&#8230;@spectre.sas.upenn.edu</a> (Rimon E. Huque) writes&#8230;  </p>
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<p>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;When I first purchased the car, it would start instantly. <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;Later (few weeks) it began to loudly squeek before starting </p>
<p>Put some oil in it  </p>
<p>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;it did). &nbsp;The car ran fine, but misfired LIKE HELL on deceleration. </p>
<p>Sounds like an exhaust leak  </p>
<p>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;Took it to several places &#8211; They said &quot;needs tune-up.&quot; &nbsp;However, <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;other sources say: One injector defective. &nbsp;($181.00/injector).  </p>
<p>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Now, the car does not start at all. &nbsp;It did once, with a <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;jump start. &nbsp;I think it might be the starter, or more important, </p>
<p>Does it crank? &nbsp;You didn&#8217;t say. &nbsp;Spin faster!  </p>
<p>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;the &quot;cold start solenoid&quot; in the injection pump. &nbsp;&quot;SPICA&quot; injection <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;pumps are mechanically controlled. &nbsp;When the car does start, after <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;a jump, it does not stay on, unless I keep the revs up. </p>
<p>Enough humor. &nbsp;If it turns over with or without a jump, it&#8217;s not the starter. <br /> Backfiring in the exhaust is a sign that it could be loading up with gas <br /> (bad injector, vacuum leak, loose tubing to the air inlet), or ignition <br /> problems (bad points, wobbling distributor shaft due to wear, basic tune-up). <br /> Check for vacuum leaks with some carb cleaner. &nbsp;Spray extra fuel into inlet, <br /> RECONNECT ALL AIR INLET TUBING, then try to start. &nbsp;If it starts and runs, <br /> cutting out a few minutes later, check the injectors including the cold-start.  </p>
<p>Dave Rosicke </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;bbillard.14.2D036...@fox.nstn.ns.ca&gt; bbill...@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Bob Billard) writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;With a rear drive car, like yours, the trick is to let off the gas until you &lt;br&gt; &gt;feel the rear tyres gain traction. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;ease off the gas. &#160;don&#039;t lift off abruptly. &lt;br&gt; if you do this in a 911 at speed, you will find yourself facing backwards &lt;br&gt; in very short order. &#160;the traction control in the &#039;92 corvette that i &lt;br&gt; was driving did this to me by cutting the gas abruptly in a corner. &lt;br&gt; the tail, which had been gently drifting, abruptly slid out, requiring &lt;br&gt; lots of opposite lock to keep the car from spinning. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-teddy &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;bbillard.14.2D036&#8230;@fox.nstn.ns.ca&gt; <a href="mailto:bbill...@fox.nstn.ns.ca">bbill&#8230;@fox.nstn.ns.ca</a> (Bob Billard) writes: <br /> &gt;With a rear drive car, like yours, the trick is to let off the gas until you <br /> &gt;feel the rear tyres gain traction. </p>
<p>ease off the gas. &nbsp;don&#8217;t lift off abruptly. <br /> if you do this in a 911 at speed, you will find yourself facing backwards <br /> in very short order. &nbsp;the traction control in the &#8217;92 corvette that i <br /> was driving did this to me by cutting the gas abruptly in a corner. <br /> the tail, which had been gently drifting, abruptly slid out, requiring <br /> lots of opposite lock to keep the car from spinning.  </p>
<p>-teddy </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;2dog3a$...@inews.intel.com&gt; r...@ismdqa.intel.com (Ronnie Wu ) writes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;I have a question about recover from a spin. I was entering a left &lt;br&gt; &gt;turn freeway on-ramp (in my Miata). As I accelerate exiting the curve, &lt;br&gt; &gt;all of a sudden the car started to spin to the left. I tried turn the &lt;br&gt; &gt;steering wheel to right to recover and kept the same acceleration but ran &lt;br&gt; &gt;out of room and head stright to the dirt and bush. I let off the gas, hold &lt;br&gt; &gt;the steering and hope. Luckly the car turned and got out of the dirt and back &lt;br&gt; &gt;on the road. &lt;br&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Later on as I recollect this incident, I remember I have drove over &lt;br&gt; &gt;a puddle of water just before I approaching the entrance. That may have caused &lt;br&gt; &gt;the spin (wet tires). Then I was wondering if I have let off the gas sooner &lt;br&gt; &gt;I may be able to stay on the road. What do you think ? &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;With a rear drive car, like yours, the trick is to let off the gas until you &lt;br&gt; feel the rear tyres gain traction. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;With FWD you can generally ignore the situation. If the front tyres have &lt;br&gt; grip you can rest assured that the rear end will be along shortly. &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;2dog3a$&#8230;@inews.intel.com&gt; <a href="mailto:r...@ismdqa.intel.com">r&#8230;@ismdqa.intel.com</a> (Ronnie Wu ) writes: <br /> 
<p>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I have a question about recover from a spin. I was entering a left <br /> &gt;turn freeway on-ramp (in my Miata). As I accelerate exiting the curve, <br /> &gt;all of a sudden the car started to spin to the left. I tried turn the <br /> &gt;steering wheel to right to recover and kept the same acceleration but ran <br /> &gt;out of room and head stright to the dirt and bush. I let off the gas, hold <br /> &gt;the steering and hope. Luckly the car turned and got out of the dirt and back <br /> &gt;on the road. <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Later on as I recollect this incident, I remember I have drove over <br /> &gt;a puddle of water just before I approaching the entrance. That may have caused <br /> &gt;the spin (wet tires). Then I was wondering if I have let off the gas sooner <br /> &gt;I may be able to stay on the road. What do you think ? </p>
<p>With a rear drive car, like yours, the trick is to let off the gas until you <br /> feel the rear tyres gain traction.  </p>
<p>With FWD you can generally ignore the situation. If the front tyres have <br /> grip you can rest assured that the rear end will be along shortly. </p>
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