Re: Advice on 3000GT/Stealth RT

Jon –

OK, I found some numbers:

from Motor Trend:

1992 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo:
0 – 60 : 5.7 sec
1/4 mi : 14.2 sec / 97.3 mph
60 – 0 : 120 ft
g : .90
slalom : 67.3 mph

1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
0 – 6- : 5.3 sec
1/4 mi : 13.9 sec / 98.4 mph
60 – 0 : 122 ft
g : .88
slalom : 63.5 mph

but, Car & Driver says:

1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
0 – 60 : 5.1 sec
1/4 mi : 13.9 sec
70 – 0 : 164 ft
g : 0.92
top speed : 153 mph

So you see, .2 sec is well within the slop factor (as may 2 lbs.).  I don’t
know which to trust, since neither magazine gives both the Stealth and the
3000GT (with comparable 300 or 320 hp).

What does your manual state for vehicle weight?
Mine says Gross vehicle weight rating for the All-wheel drive Stealth
(turbo) is 4,519 lbs…

Don’t you just love numbers?

Craig


Craig Huffnagle
To fly is human, to hover is divine!        ’91 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo

chuff…@dmso.dtic.dla.mil               I don’t think it up, I just type it.

24 Responses to “Re: Advice on 3000GT/Stealth RT”

  1. admin says:

    Craig Huffnagle (chuff…@ida.org) wrote:

    : Jon –

    : OK, I found some numbers:

    : from Motor Trend:

    : 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
    : 0 – 6- : 5.3 sec
    : 1/4 mi : 13.9 sec / 98.4 mph
    : 60 – 0 : 122 ft
    : g : .88
    : slalom : 63.5 mph

    : but, Car & Driver says:

    : 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
    : 0 – 60 : 5.1 sec
    : 1/4 mi : 13.9 sec
    : 70 – 0 : 164 ft
    : g : 0.92
    : top speed : 153 mph

    What about numbers for the base engine?


    Rob Lesieur
    r…@cbis.com
    => My opinions and statements do not necessarily   <=
    => reflect the opinions or policies of my employer <=

  2. admin says:

    Craig Huffnagle (chuff…@ida.org) wrote:

    : Jon –

    : OK, I found some numbers:

    : from Motor Trend:

    : 1992 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo:
    : 0 – 60 : 5.7 sec
    : 1/4 mi : 14.2 sec / 97.3 mph
    : 60 – 0 : 120 ft
    : g : .90
    : slalom : 67.3 mph

    : 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
    : 0 – 6- : 5.3 sec
    : 1/4 mi : 13.9 sec / 98.4 mph
    : 60 – 0 : 122 ft
    : g : .88
    : slalom : 63.5 mph

    : but, Car & Driver says:

    : 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
    : 0 – 60 : 5.1 sec
    : 1/4 mi : 13.9 sec
    : 70 – 0 : 164 ft
    : g : 0.92
    : top speed : 153 mph

    : So you see, .2 sec is well within the slop factor (as may 2 lbs.).  I don’t
    : know which to trust, since neither magazine gives both the Stealth and the
    : 3000GT (with comparable 300 or 320 hp).

    : What does your manual state for vehicle weight?
    : Mine says Gross vehicle weight rating for the All-wheel drive Stealth
    : (turbo) is 4,519 lbs…

    : Don’t you just love numbers?

    : Craig

    : —
    : Craig Huffnagle
    : To fly is human, to hover is divine!        ’91 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo

    : chuff…@dmso.dtic.dla.mil               I don’t think it up, I just type it.

    The ‘94 has 20 more hp and a different transmission than the ‘92,
    so you can’t compare directly.

  3. admin says:

    Lcyber (lcy…@aol.com) wrote:

    : It’s a good thing you don’t drive fast. If you confuse roads as
    : easily as you confuse threads, we’re all in big trouble. We’re not
    : talking about drivers in this thread pardner, we’re discussing cars.

    You’re just whining because nobody agrees with you.

    Craig


    Craig Huffnagle
    To fly is human, to hover is divine!        ’91 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo

    chuff…@dmso.dtic.dla.mil               I don’t think it up, I just type it.

  4. admin says:

    Craig Huffnagle (chuff…@ida.org) wrote:

    : Jon –

    : OK, I found some numbers:

    : from Motor Trend:

    : 1992 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo:
    : 0 – 60 : 5.7 sec
    : 1/4 mi : 14.2 sec / 97.3 mph
    : 60 – 0 : 120 ft
    : g : .90
    : slalom : 67.3 mph

    : 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
    : 0 – 6- : 5.3 sec
    : 1/4 mi : 13.9 sec / 98.4 mph
    : 60 – 0 : 122 ft
    : g : .88
    : slalom : 63.5 mph

    : but, Car & Driver says:

    : 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
    : 0 – 60 : 5.1 sec
    : 1/4 mi : 13.9 sec
    : 70 – 0 : 164 ft
    : g : 0.92
    : top speed : 153 mph

    : So you see, .2 sec is well within the slop factor (as may 2 lbs.).  I don’t
    : know which to trust, since neither magazine gives both the Stealth and the
    : 3000GT (with comparable 300 or 320 hp).

    : What does your manual state for vehicle weight?
    : Mine says Gross vehicle weight rating for the All-wheel drive Stealth
    : (turbo) is 4,519 lbs…

    : Don’t you just love numbers?

    : Craig

    : —
    : Craig Huffnagle
    : To fly is human, to hover is divine!        ’91 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo
    : chuff…@dmso.dtic.dla.mil               I don’t think it up, I just type it.

        Too weird!  You’d think that the magazine numbers would jive…
    Oh well, I guess we should just take the most optomistic numbers and
    boast about them… ;-)  You know, mix and match!
       My manual says that my car weighs 4519 lbs.  Hmmm… they match
    exactly!  Maybe Motor Trend forgot to take a few clipboards and stopwatches
    out of the Stealth before they weighed it!
        Yes, numbers are neat!

         By the way, do you have an un-even exaust on your car?  You would think that the muffler would run down the middle and split at the end into the 4
    exaust ports, but Noooo!  Mine doesn’t.  The muffler is on the left side of
     the car, and the right pipes come out of that.  The end result of that
    is the exaust smoke comes primarily from the left ports, which can
    look kind of dumb.
       Actually, I would like to see a Stealth/3000GT with sidepipes.
    Chrome, of course.  I think that would be quite visually stunning.
    And cool to boot! :-)

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    | stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu   | ‘82 Yamaha Virago 750 – Faster        |
    | stei0…@pat.cs.fredonia.edu    | ‘91 Yamaha FZR600 – Even Faster       |
    | steiger0…@a12t.cc.fredonia.ed | ‘91 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 – Too Fast |  
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  5. admin says:

    Rob Lesieur (r…@cbis.com) wrote:

    : Craig Huffnagle (chuff…@ida.org) wrote:
    : : Jon –

        numbers cut…

    : What about numbers for the base engine?

    : —
    : Rob Lesieur
    : r…@cbis.com
    : => My opinions and statements do not necessarily   <=
    : => reflect the opinions or policies of my employer <=

         Base engine?  There is a base engine?  Oh.  :-)

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    | stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu   | ‘82 Yamaha Virago 750 – Faster        |
    | stei0…@pat.cs.fredonia.edu    | ‘91 Yamaha FZR600 – Even Faster       |
    | steiger0…@a12t.cc.fredonia.ed | ‘91 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 – Too Fast |  
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  6. admin says:

    Lloyd R. Parker (lpar…@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu) wrote:
    : Craig Huffnagle (chuff…@ida.org) wrote:
    : : Jon –

    : : So you see, .2 sec is well within the slop factor (as may 2 lbs.).  I don’t
    : : know which to trust, since neither magazine gives both the Stealth and the
    : : 3000GT (with comparable 300 or 320 hp).
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ see below.

    : : What does your manual state for vehicle weight?
    : : Mine says Gross vehicle weight rating for the All-wheel drive Stealth
    : : (turbo) is 4,519 lbs…

    : : Don’t you just love numbers?

    : : Craig

    : : —
    : : Craig Huffnagle
    : : To fly is human, to hover is divine!        ’91 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo

    : : chuff…@dmso.dtic.dla.mil               I don’t think it up, I just type it.

    : The ‘94 has 20 more hp and a different transmission than the ‘92,
    : so you can’t compare directly.

         Yeah, he knows that.  That’s what the above line (underlined) is
    all about.

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    | Jon Steiger – DoD# 1038         | ‘80 Honda CB650 – Slow                |
    | stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu   | ‘82 Yamaha Virago 750 – Faster        |
    | stei0…@pat.cs.fredonia.edu    | ‘91 Yamaha FZR600 – Even Faster       |
    | steiger0…@a12t.cc.fredonia.ed | ‘91 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 – Too Fast |  
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  7. admin says:

    In article <1994Jul7.134135.28…@roadie.uucp>, r…@cbis.com (Rob

    Lesieur) writes:
    >What about numbers for the base engine?

    0-60:  3 days

    Sean

  8. admin says:

    Lloyd R. Parker (lpar…@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu) wrote:

    : Craig Huffnagle (chuff…@ida.org) wrote:
    : : OK, I found some numbers:
    [etc, deleted]

    : The ‘94 has 20 more hp and a different transmission than the ‘92,
    : so you can’t compare directly.

    Yes, I know, but those were the only road tests that I could find on
    the Stealth or 3000GT, I was only trying to illustrate a point.

    Craig


    Craig Huffnagle
    To fly is human, to hover is divine!        ’91 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo

    chuff…@dmso.dtic.dla.mil               I don’t think it up, I just type it.

  9. admin says:

    Jon N. Steiger (stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu) wrote:
    :     Too weird!  You’d think that the magazine numbers would jive…
    : Oh well, I guess we should just take the most optomistic numbers and
    : boast about them… ;-)  You know, mix and match!

    I wouldn’t have it any other way ;^}

    :      By the way, do you have an un-even exaust on your car?  You would think that the muffler would run down the middle and split at the end into the 4
    : exaust ports, but Noooo!  Mine doesn’t.  The muffler is on the left side of
    :  the car, and the right pipes come out of that.  The end result of that
    : is the exaust smoke comes primarily from the left ports, which can
    : look kind of dumb.

    Yes, mine are exactly as you describe them.

    Craig


    Craig Huffnagle
    To fly is human, to hover is divine!        ’91 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo

    chuff…@dmso.dtic.dla.mil               I don’t think it up, I just type it.

  10. admin says:

    Craig Huffnagle (chuff…@ida.org) wrote:

    : Jon N. Steiger (stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu) wrote:
    : :     Too weird!  You’d think that the magazine numbers would jive…
    : : Oh well, I guess we should just take the most optomistic numbers and
    : : boast about them… ;-)  You know, mix and match!

    : I wouldn’t have it any other way ;^}

    : :      By the way, do you have an un-even exaust on your car?  You would think that the muffler would run down the middle and split at the end into the 4
    : : exaust ports, but Noooo!  Mine doesn’t.  The muffler is on the left side of
    : :  the car, and the right pipes come out of that.  The end result of that
    : : is the exaust smoke comes primarily from the left ports, which can
    : : look kind of dumb.

    : Yes, mine are exactly as you describe them.

    : Craig

    : —
    : Craig Huffnagle
    : To fly is human, to hover is divine!        ’91 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo

    : chuff…@dmso.dtic.dla.mil               I don’t think it up, I just type it.

         Oh well, at least noone who looks at our cars will be able to tell
    that we don’t actually *need* 4 ports.  Looks cool though, doesn’t it?
       Until, of course, we drive in relatively cold weather.  Then,
    everyone will think our exaust system is defective.
        Can’t have everything, I guess!

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    | stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu   | ‘82 Yamaha Virago 750 – Faster        |
    | stei0…@pat.cs.fredonia.edu    | ‘91 Yamaha FZR600 – Even Faster       |
    | steiger0…@a12t.cc.fredonia.ed | ‘91 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 – Too Fast |  
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  11. admin says:

    I’m curious, if the plate on the back of the stealth says "R/T", does that
    mean it is a twin turbo too?  Or do the ones that are twin turbo’ed say
    "R/T twin turbo"?

    And what, if anything, does "R/T" stand for?


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  12. admin says:

    John Eaves (j…@tivoli.com) wrote:

    : I’m curious, if the plate on the back of the stealth says "R/T", does that
    : mean it is a twin turbo too?  Or do the ones that are twin turbo’ed say
    : "R/T twin turbo"?

    : And what, if anything, does "R/T" stand for?

    : —
    : _____________________________________________________________________________
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    : j…@tivoli.COM          | Austin, TX 78730, USA       | Main#: (512) 794-9070

          If it says R/T then it is the R/T Twin Turbo.

       R/T, to the best of my knowledge means "Road and Track".

    That is; the car is street legal, but it is a healthy competitor on
    the racetrack.  Dodge uses R/T on a lot of its cars to designate the
    top of the line version.  (On sports cars).

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    | stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu   | ‘82 Yamaha Virago 750 – Faster        |
    | stei0…@pat.cs.fredonia.edu    | ‘91 Yamaha FZR600 – Even Faster       |
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  13. admin says:

    Jon N. Steiger (stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu) wrote:
    : John Eaves (j…@tivoli.com) wrote:
    : : I’m curious, if the plate on the back of the stealth says "R/T", does that
    : : mean it is a twin turbo too?  Or do the ones that are twin turbo’ed say
    : : "R/T twin turbo"?

    : : And what, if anything, does "R/T" stand for?

    : : —
    : : _____________________________________________________________________________
    : : John Eaves              | TIVOLI Systems, Inc.        | Phone: (512) 502-4725
    : :                         | 6034 W. Courtyard Dr. #210  |   FAX: (512) 794-0623
    : : j…@tivoli.COM          | Austin, TX 78730, USA       | Main#: (512) 794-9070

    :       If it says R/T then it is the R/T Twin Turbo.

    :    R/T, to the best of my knowledge means "Road and Track".

    : That is; the car is street legal, but it is a healthy competitor on
    : the racetrack.  Dodge uses R/T on a lot of its cars to designate the
    : top of the line version.  (On sports cars).

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    : | stei0…@pat.cs.fredonia.edu    | ‘91 Yamaha FZR600 – Even Faster       |
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    No, there is a Stealth R/T that is not turbocharged; it has the
    222-hp normally-aspirated engine.  Only the model which says Turbo
    is turbocharged.

    Dodge first began using R/T for its performance cars in 1967 with
    the Coronet R/T; although Dodge didn’t say what it stood for,
    everybody assumed it meant Road and Track.  Since then, Dodge has
    used R/T for Charger, Challenger, Aspen, Daytona, Spirit, and, of
    course, Viper models.

  14. admin says:

    >John Eaves (j…@tivoli.com) wrote:
    >: I’m curious, if the plate on the back of the stealth says "R/T", does that
    >: mean it is a twin turbo too?  Or do the ones that are twin turbo’ed say
    >: "R/T twin turbo"?

    >: And what, if anything, does "R/T" stand for?

    In rec.autos.driving stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu (Jon N. Steiger) wrote:

    >      If it says R/T then it is the R/T Twin Turbo.

    I thought there was an “ES” with a 3.0l 12v engine (<160hp), an
    “R/T” with a 3.0l 24v (>200hp) and electronic suspension, and an
    “R/T Turbo” with a 3.0l 24v twin turbo (>300hp).  There may be a 4th
    model between the ES and the R/T.

    >   R/T, to the best of my knowledge means "Road and Track".

    Many people use in rec.autos.* use R/T to refer to the magazine “Road
    and Track”, C/D to refer to “Car & Driver”, and M/T to refer to
    “Motor Trend”.

    >That is; the car is street legal, but it is a healthy competitor on
    >the racetrack.  Dodge uses R/T on a lot of its cars to designate the
    >top of the line version.  (On sports cars).

    It could also be a designation from the old days: Radial Tuning. When
    radial tires became popular, some manufactures offered suspensions
    that were tuned specifically for radial tires.

    PS: Am I revealing my age here?  I am not THAT old, really!


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  15. admin says:

    Jon N. Steiger (stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu) wrote:
    : Nhat-Viet Phi (nhatv…@nucleus.com) wrote:
    : : Hmmmm. Pretty interesting thread there, boys. It truly irks me to see the
    : : level of some of this conversation – down in the boys’ locker room…

    :      Hey Craig, look!  We found another rec.auto reader with a brain!
    : Nhat-Viet, you have just summed up this entire thread, and discounted the
    : stupid ideas of those low-life Z28 afficianados with the utmost efficiency.
    :     Thank you.  :-)

    My sentiments exactly, it’s refreshing to hear from someone who makes
    sense.

    Craig


    Craig Huffnagle
    To fly is human, to hover is divine!        ’91 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo

    chuff…@dmso.dtic.dla.mil               I don’t think it up, I just type it.

  16. admin says:

    : In article <1994Jul7.134135.28…@roadie.uucp>, r…@cbis.com (Rob

    : Lesieur) writes:

    : >What about numbers for the base engine?

    All I know about the base engine is that it only has 164 bhp.

    Craig


    Craig Huffnagle
    To fly is human, to hover is divine!        ’91 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo

    chuff…@dmso.dtic.dla.mil               I don’t think it up, I just type it.

  17. admin says:

    BTW, for all you Stealth owners out there, I just got the latest Motor
    Trend.  In Leon Kaplan’s column entitled ‘The Motorized World’, on page
    120 theres is a question about the manual five-speed shifting poorly.
    Leon’s response is that:
            "Dodge has issued a repair bulletin for this and suggests
            installing, when necessary, a friction modifier in ‘91 and ‘92
            Stealths.  The problem is the transmission synchronizer and ger
            taper cone aren’t sliding into each other smoothly.  This is a
            close tolerance.  Change the fluid and find a dealer who’ll
            install the modifier."

    Also, unfortunately, the Stealth and 3000GT were not entered in the Bang
    for the Buck competition by the manufacturers.

    Also, while I’m on the subject of luck Stealth / 3000GT owners, I thought
    I’d pass on information on the ‘3000GT / Stealth Registry’.  It is a
    newsletter published quarterly with news for 3000Gt and Stealth owners.
    It is published by Hennessey Motorsports.  If you want to join, send a
    note to:
            3000GT / Stealth Registry
            Post Office Box 631021
            Houston, TX 77092 USA
            (713) 668-9987
            FAX (713) 681-2390

    I think it cost $20 for a years subscription (4 issues).  It is full of
    performance related information including how to increase horsepower and
    stories about cars that have.  A must have for all owners.

    Craig


    Craig Huffnagle
    To fly is human, to hover is divine!        ’91 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo

    chuff…@dmso.dtic.dla.mil               I don’t think it up, I just type it.

  18. admin says:

    Craig Huffnagle (chuff…@ida.org) wrote:

    :       3000GT / Stealth Registry
    :       Post Office Box 631021
    :       Houston, TX 77092 USA
    :       (713) 668-9987
    :       FAX (713) 681-2390

    Sorry about the bad gouge, the FAX number has been changed to (713) 849-
    5084 (I actually tried sending one today).

    Craig


    Craig Huffnagle
    To fly is human, to hover is divine!        ’91 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo

    chuff…@dmso.dtic.dla.mil               I don’t think it up, I just type it.

  19. admin says:

    In article <1994Jul7.035349.1…@penny.cs.fredonia.edu>,
    stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu (Jon N. Steiger) writes:

    >   My manual says that my car weighs 4519 lbs.  Hmmm… they match
    >exactly!  Maybe Motor Trend forgot to take a few clipboards and
    stopwatches
    >out of the Stealth before they weighed it!
    >Yes, numbers are neat!

    Jon;   Gross weight is the Maximum allowable weight restriction….your
    car does not weigh anything near 4519 Lbs.

    Sean Alexander

  20. admin says:

    TECHLiveSR (techliv…@aol.com) wrote:

    : In article <1994Jul7.134135.28…@roadie.uucp>, r…@cbis.com (Rob

    : Lesieur) writes:

    : >What about numbers for the base engine?

    : 0-60:  3 days

    : Sean

    Gee, whiz. Ask a simple question, get lots of stupid answers. My mistake.


    Rob Lesieur
    r…@cbis.com
    => My opinions and statements do not necessarily   <=
    => reflect the opinions or policies of my employer <=

  21. admin says:

    Roberto L. Landrau (r…@zermatt.mitre.org) wrote:
    : >John Eaves (j…@tivoli.com) wrote:
    : >: I’m curious, if the plate on the back of the stealth says "R/T", does that
    : >: mean it is a twin turbo too?  Or do the ones that are twin turbo’ed say
    : >: "R/T twin turbo"?
    : >
    : >: And what, if anything, does "R/T" stand for?

    : In rec.autos.driving stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu (Jon N. Steiger) wrote:

    : >      If it says R/T then it is the R/T Twin Turbo.

    : I thought there was an “ES” with a 3.0l 12v engine (<160hp), an
    : “R/T” with a 3.0l 24v (>200hp) and electronic suspension, and an
    : “R/T Turbo” with a 3.0l 24v twin turbo (>300hp).  There may be a 4th
    : model between the ES and the R/T.

    : >   R/T, to the best of my knowledge means "Road and Track".

    : Many people use in rec.autos.* use R/T to refer to the magazine “Road
    : and Track”, C/D to refer to “Car & Driver”, and M/T to refer to
    : “Motor Trend”.

    : >That is; the car is street legal, but it is a healthy competitor on
    : >the racetrack.  Dodge uses R/T on a lot of its cars to designate the
    : >top of the line version.  (On sports cars).

    : It could also be a designation from the old days: Radial Tuning. When
    : radial tires became popular, some manufactures offered suspensions
    : that were tuned specifically for radial tires.

    : PS: Am I revealing my age here?  I am not THAT old, really!

    : —
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    : Roberto L. Landrau    KC1YP                 r…@linus.mitre.org
    : The MITRE Corporation  Bedford, MA 01730    r…@linus.UUCP

    Stealth models:

    Base — SOHC engine, 164 hp
    ES — DOHC engine, 222 hp, styled like base, N/A for 94
    R/T — DOHC engine, 222 hp, styled like turbo model
    R/T Turbo — turbo DOHC engine, 300 hp (320 for 94)

    The base and the ES shared styling, as did the 2 R/T models.  The
    base was the only one with the 164 hp engine, which Mitsubishi
    doesn’t offer in the 3000GT.

    For 94, the R/T comes with the ES’s level of standard equipment of
    previous years, but there is a "luxury equipment" package that
    brings the R/T back up to the level of equipment it had before.

  22. admin says:

    In article <2vv078$…@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> lpar…@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu  

    (Lloyd R. Parker) writes:
    > Roberto L. Landrau (r…@zermatt.mitre.org) wrote:
    > : >John Eaves (j…@tivoli.com) wrote:
    > : >: I’m curious, if the plate on the back of the stealth says "R/T",  
    does that
    > : >: mean it is a twin turbo too?  Or do the ones that are twin turbo’ed  
    say
    > : >: "R/T twin turbo"?

            If it says RT on the back, then it can be either of the 2.  To see  
    if it is twin turbo, you have to look on the doors.  If it says twin  
    turbo, it is.  If not, it isn’t.  Also (and I’m not sure for what years)  
    the RT (222 HP) has dual pipes off of a single exhaust on the left hand  
    side of the back.  The twin turbo will sport 4 pipes, 2 on each side.  
    Kind of ironic, since i followed one only a few days ago, and I was amazed  
    by how cool the man behind the wheel thought he was (like no one knew that  
    it wasn’t the top of the line).    

    > : >: And what, if anything, does "R/T" stand for?

            I don’t think anyone knows for sure, but most people say it stands  
    for Road and Track (not necessarily the magazine).  Dodge has used R/T  
    since the 60’s on their cars.
    > : In rec.autos.driving stei0…@mary.cs.fredonia.edu (Jon N. Steiger)  
    wrote:

    > : >      If it says R/T then it is the R/T Twin Turbo.
    >           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                            Wrong.  See above.  Or below for that matter.

     Someone else wrote this, and it is too bad their name isn’t here to take  
    credit for it, cuz it’s good.

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > Base — SOHC engine, 164 hp
    > ES — DOHC engine, 222 hp, styled like base, N/A for 94
    > R/T — DOHC engine, 222 hp, styled like turbo model
    > R/T Turbo — turbo DOHC engine, 300 hp (320 for 94)

    > The base and the ES shared styling, as did the 2 R/T models.  The
    > base was the only one with the 164 hp engine, which Mitsubishi
    > doesn’t offer in the 3000GT.

    > For 94, the R/T comes with the ES’s level of standard equipment of
    > previous years, but there is a "luxury equipment" package that
    > brings the R/T back up to the level of equipment it had before.

  23. admin says:

    In article <2vueb8$…@dgis.dtic.dla.mil> chuff…@ida.org (Craig Huffnagle) writes:
    >BTW, for all you Stealth owners out there, I just got the latest Motor
    >Trend.  In Leon Kaplan’s column entitled ‘The Motorized World’, on page
    >120 theres is a question about the manual five-speed shifting poorly.
    >Leon’s response is that:
    >        "Dodge has issued a repair bulletin for this and suggests
    >        installing, when necessary, a friction modifier in ‘91 and ‘92
    >        Stealths.  The problem is the transmission synchronizer and ger
    >        taper cone aren’t sliding into each other smoothly.  This is a
    >        close tolerance.  Change the fluid and find a dealer who’ll
    >        install the modifier."

    Actually, there is also a shifter balance weight introduced in ‘93
    that improves the shift feel considerably.  My ‘91 VR4 had 2nd gear
    fail, so I got a ‘93 transmission in replacement, which was really
    a big improvement.

    Kind of funny… the 5-speed Getrag is not bolted together;
    apparently half of the housing is heated to a very high degree,
    then joined to the other half.  When it cools it’s inseparable.
    Dealers cannot service these transmissions.  If anything goes
    wrong, they’re returned to Getrag in Germany and you’re given
    a new tranny in exchange.  It was a $5000 warranty job!  Lesson
    #1, do NOT let these cars go out of warranty.

    Kai

    p.s. Red Line MTL fluid is _terrific_ for Diamond Star trannies.
    Highly recommended.  Improves feel a lot, especially on cold
    mornings.

    "Object-Oriented Retrieval System for the Johns Hopkins Autopsy
    Database," by G. W. Moore, G. M. Hutchins, and J. J. Berman, Medinfo 92
    [Conference proceedings].  | godzi…@seanet.com

  24. admin says:

    In article <2vueb8$…@dgis.dtic.dla.mil>,

    Craig Huffnagle <chuff…@ida.org> wrote:

    >BTW, for all you Stealth owners out there, I just got the latest Motor
    >Trend.  In Leon Kaplan’s column entitled ‘The Motorized World’, on page
    >120 theres is a question about the manual five-speed shifting poorly.
    >Leon’s response is that:
    >    "Dodge has issued a repair bulletin for this and suggests
    >    installing, when necessary, a friction modifier in ‘91 and ‘92
    >    Stealths.  The problem is the transmission synchronizer and ger
    >    taper cone aren’t sliding into each other smoothly.  This is a
    >    close tolerance.  Change the fluid and find a dealer who’ll
    >    install the modifier."

    Craig,

    Which model of Stealth does this relate to?  The Twin Turbo has a
    distinctly different transmission than the other models.  I have
    the Twin Turbo, and have noticed this problem when accelerating
    quickly.  So I assume it only refers to the Twin Turbo?

    Thanks,

    Karen


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