Article says lots of people in the left lane do under the speed
limit!! What a lie that is.
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Area truckers favor bill to limit driving in left lane
By Jim Brazda
Reporter
A bill was introduced in the Unicameral Thursday, January 5, by Sen.
Marian Price, Lincoln, that could change the way Nebraskans drive. The
bill, LB 909, would make it illegal to drive in the passing lane on
interstates and highways in Nebraska where the speed limit is 65 miles
per hour or more. The bill would allow exceptions when the volume of
traffic makes it unsafe to merge into the non-passing lane.
Many times, people driving in the left lane are traveling under the
speed limit, said Ron Madsen, Blair. Madsen drives for Innovative
Window & Door, and has driven a commercial truck for nearly 30 years.
If this bill passes, Madsen said he hopes people will be more aware of
staying in the right lane so others can pass easily and get back into
the non-passing lane. It will keep the flow of traffic moving
smoothly, he said.
“It’s just too bad they have to pass a law for something that’s just
common sense,” Madsen said.
The left lane being open is a good thing for the flow of traffic,
sometimes people drive as slow as 65 mph in the passing lane on the
interstate which can back traffic up, he said.
People drive on the interstate between Omaha and Lincoln as if it were
Dodge Street, Madsen said. If people are going to go slower than the
speed limit, they need to be in the right lane, he said.
Truckers get frustrated sometimes when they have to get somewhere and
traffic is backed up by someone putzing along in the passing lane, he
said.
Rick Jasa, vice president of Jasa Transit, said he thought the bill
was a wonderful idea.
“Nothing drives me nuttier than people that drive in the left lane,”
he said.
The only problem would be enforcing a potential law, he said. It would
be difficult to tell if someone was driving in the lane, or merely
passing slowly. But if the blatant abusers are stopped, it will make
it easier for everybody, he said.
Sen. Mick Mines said although he has not yet read the bill, he is not
sold on the idea, mainly because it is unclear how it would be
enforced. It would place law enforcement officers in a position where
they would have to make a subjective call as to whether or not someone
is cruising in the left lane, or slowly passing, making enforcement
problematic, he said.
Jasa said he likes the bill because of its safety worth. When a
trucker drives in the left lane, other motorists will pass on the
right, which is the driver’s largest blind spot.
When people learn that they have to drive in the right lane, or get a
ticket, they will comply, he said.
Would this be enforced in Omaha, where freeways such as I-80 (it could
be I-480) carry in excess of 180,000 vehicles a day?
-Brent
Brent Jonas wrote:
> Would this be enforced in Omaha, where freeways such as I-80 (it could
> be I-480) carry in excess of 180,000 vehicles a day?
> -Brent
It’s really impossible to enforce anywhere except on seldom used
freeways and there the law doesn’t matter. On heavily used freeways the
LLD can always say there was no opening to let me back into the right
lane. Stupid legislators.
Around 1/10/2006 10:01 PM, Aunt Judy (Pride of Diarrhea)
<http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote:
> Brent Jonas wrote:
>>Would this be enforced in Omaha, where freeways such as I-80 (it could
>>be I-480) carry in excess of 180,000 vehicles a day?
>>-Brent
> It’s really impossible
Correction: That should read "It’s really simple".
You’re welcome.
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> Article says lots of people in the left lane do under the speed
> limit!! What a lie that is.
> http://www.enterprisepub.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&Arti…
> Area truckers favor bill to limit driving in left lane
> By Jim Brazda
> Reporter
> A bill was introduced in the Unicameral Thursday, January 5, by Sen.
> Marian Price, Lincoln, that could change the way Nebraskans drive. The
> bill, LB 909, would make it illegal to drive in the passing lane on
> interstates and highways in Nebraska where the speed limit is 65 miles
> per hour or more. The bill would allow exceptions when the volume of
> traffic makes it unsafe to merge into the non-passing lane.
> Many times, people driving in the left lane are traveling under the
> speed limit, said Ron Madsen, Blair. Madsen drives for Innovative
> Window & Door, and has driven a commercial truck for nearly 30 years.
> If this bill passes, Madsen said he hopes people will be more aware of
> staying in the right lane so others can pass easily and get back into
> the non-passing lane. It will keep the flow of traffic moving
> smoothly, he said.
> "It’s just too bad they have to pass a law for something that’s just
> common sense," Madsen said.
> The left lane being open is a good thing for the flow of traffic,
> sometimes people drive as slow as 65 mph in the passing lane on the
> interstate which can back traffic up, he said.
> People drive on the interstate between Omaha and Lincoln as if it were
> Dodge Street, Madsen said. If people are going to go slower than the
> speed limit, they need to be in the right lane, he said.
> Truckers get frustrated sometimes when they have to get somewhere and
> traffic is backed up by someone putzing along in the passing lane, he
> said.
> Rick Jasa, vice president of Jasa Transit, said he thought the bill
> was a wonderful idea.
> "Nothing drives me nuttier than people that drive in the left lane,"
> he said.
> The only problem would be enforcing a potential law, he said. It would
> be difficult to tell if someone was driving in the lane, or merely
> passing slowly. But if the blatant abusers are stopped, it will make
> it easier for everybody, he said.
> Sen. Mick Mines said although he has not yet read the bill, he is not
> sold on the idea, mainly because it is unclear how it would be
> enforced. It would place law enforcement officers in a position where
> they would have to make a subjective call as to whether or not someone
> is cruising in the left lane, or slowly passing, making enforcement
> problematic, he said.
> Jasa said he likes the bill because of its safety worth. When a
> trucker drives in the left lane, other motorists will pass on the
> right, which is the driver’s largest blind spot.
> When people learn that they have to drive in the right lane, or get a
> ticket, they will comply, he said.
I have always been told — and I drive this way — that when driving on an
interstate and when approaching an on-ramp where other traffic is merging,
get into the left lane so the merging traffic can merge smoothly and not
cause backups on the on-ramp. So, in Nebraska it would be illegal to move
over into the left lane to let someone merge from an on-ramp into the right
lane?
Hey Laura Bush Guy, If Laura Bush killed her
boyfriend, she should be Locked-Up behind bars and
not be being presently addressed as the "First Lady".
Provide the proof that she , in-fact killed anyone.
Those of us alive at the time, remember Teddy Kennedy
murdering his girlfriend in an intoxicated state by
vehicular homicide. It made national news.
Do a Google search and read about. All of the info is there.
Every ounce.
Teddy did no Jail Time, he was not even charged!
Read the documented facts.
If Laura killed her boyfriend and walked.
Why are you not equally enraged that
Teddy killed his girlfriend and walked?
Ted serves as a U.S. Senator to this day!
If you are Righteous, that should make
your blood boil.
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> Brent Jonas wrote:
>> Would this be enforced in Omaha, where freeways such as I-80 (it could
>> be I-480) carry in excess of 180,000 vehicles a day?
>> -Brent
> It’s really impossible to enforce anywhere except on seldom used
> freeways and there the law doesn’t matter. On heavily used freeways the
> LLD can always say there was no opening to let me back into the right
> lane. Stupid legislators.
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> Brent Jonas wrote:
> > Would this be enforced in Omaha, where freeways such as I-80 (it could
> > be I-480) carry in excess of 180,000 vehicles a day?
> > -Brent
> It’s really impossible to enforce anywhere except on seldom used
> freeways and there the law doesn’t matter. On heavily used freeways the
> LLD can always say there was no opening to let me back into the right
> lane. Stupid legislators.
Isn’t this the law on the Autobahn?
something I’ve observed on local roads – folks get in the
left lane… several miles before their left turn…
It’ curious behavior because folks are passing them on the
right.. and they do nothing.. holding their lane until they
make their left turn.
just speculating.. it seems that perhaps they are afraid
that they won’t be able to move to the left lane to prepare
for their left turn.. which, in true, makes me wonder if
those folks are not really comfortable with executing
lane changes in traffic…to start with.
In the conditions I observe – this seems to happen no matter how dense
the traffic is… there can be absolutely no traffic in front of them
for the miles they hold that left lane.
Multiple this behavior times even just a few people.. and you’ve
got problems… with weaving.. passing on the right, etc… in
general.. mayhem…
A new suggestion for your posting name,
"Kennedy was Only Driving His Car".
Take it into serious consideration.
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> Hey Laura Bush Guy, If Laura Bush killed her
> boyfriend, she should be Locked-Up behind bars and
> not be being presently addressed as the "First Lady".
> Provide the proof that she , in-fact killed anyone.
> Those of us alive at the time, remember Teddy Kennedy
> murdering his girlfriend in an intoxicated state by
> vehicular homicide. It made national news.
> Do a Google search and read about. All of the info is there.
> Every ounce.
> Teddy did no Jail Time, he was not even charged!
> Read the documented facts.
> If Laura killed her boyfriend and walked.
> Why are you not equally enraged that
> Teddy killed his girlfriend and walked?
> Ted serves as a U.S. Senator to this day!
> If you are Righteous, that should make
> your blood boil.
> "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message
> news:1136959288.825211.292400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com…
>> Brent Jonas wrote:
>>> Would this be enforced in Omaha, where freeways such as I-80 (it could
>>> be I-480) carry in excess of 180,000 vehicles a day?
>>> -Brent
>> It’s really impossible to enforce anywhere except on seldom used
>> freeways and there the law doesn’t matter. On heavily used freeways the
>> LLD can always say there was no opening to let me back into the right
>> lane. Stupid legislators.
laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
> Article says lots of people in the left lane do under the speed
> limit!! What a lie that is.
the problem is .. it only takes one or two doing this.. and
everybody else is screwed…. even the ones driving
right at the speed limit.
seen this happen – as you all have – on the left lane on
interstates….
a guy comes up on a truck .. who is not up to speed or has
himself gotten slowed by traffic
.. and a guy hops in the left lane.. going slower than the
speed limit but about the same as the truck… or
just enough faster than it will literally take miles for
him to get around…
.. meanwhle all hell is breaking loose behind him.. with
the very impatient weaving to the right lane then trying
to cut back in the line that has formed behind the
blocker.
just from a practical perspective.. it would seem that the
slow driver needs to boost their speed at least enough
to make a pass in a timely manner.. then slow down
to their comfortable speed … but they don’t..
The result of their "i’m here and you can’t be here" behavior
breeds chaos.. with lots of blame to go around but the
bottom line.. is that IMHO this is gross anti-social
behavior…. that causes a lot of others to demand a
law to force a behavior change on folks.. who, again IMHO
can’t/won’t deal with realities in a common-sense manner.
In article <duudnbpN6_JRelneRVn…@comcast.com>, Joe S. wrote:
> I have always been told — and I drive this way — that when driving on an
> interstate and when approaching an on-ramp where other traffic is merging,
> get into the left lane so the merging traffic can merge smoothly and not
> cause backups on the on-ramp. So, in Nebraska it would be illegal to move
> over into the left lane to let someone merge from an on-ramp into the right
> lane?
What you were told is nothing but a ‘patch’. People should merge
properly. If they could, people would not be forced to move over for
them. So much difficulty is caused by merge impared drivers. Too many
people trying to merge into 70+ traffic at 45mph or less.
And under every keep right except to pass law, moving to the left lane to
avoid crashing into the merge impared is entirely legal.
Brent P wrote:
> In article <duudnbpN6_JRelneRVn…@comcast.com>, Joe S. wrote:
> > I have always been told — and I drive this way —
> What you were told is nothing but a ‘patch’. People should merge
> properly. So much difficulty is caused by merge impared drivers.
Here’s a scenario on how the left-lane issue will evolve and possibly
be resolved.
It will involve a bad accident with a left-lane driver, an accident
that results
in serious injuries and/or a death .. AND the complete capture of
the entire incident on a cad-cam.
The police and legal folks will do their thing and depending on the
investigating officers, prosocuters, witnesses.. etc.. some result
will occur that may or may not end up with a criminal conviction.
But THEN there will ALSO be a wrongful-death civil action from 3rd
party
victims injured or killed (or their insurance companies) to receive
compensation.
It will end up in front of a jury – which .. will have folks on it who
despise
the left-laners.. and they will find the left-laner … guility of
being
as one of the contribitory causes.
The left-laner will then have a judgement against them – big dollars –
that their insurance company will take the hit.. and then promptly
cancel their insurance.
This will get into the paper .. and unless all left-laners don’t read,
some will read it.. and finally "get it" that their behavior _could_,
if the stars and moon align… end up taking their insurance and
if it’s a really big judgement .. their homes…and/or investments.
In article <1136981511.855366.295…@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Larry Gross wrote:
> Here’s a scenario on how the left-lane issue will evolve and possibly
> be resolved.
Actually, it will probably parallel IL, where the law is little known and
rarely enforced. Last I heard, in year two, the IL state police issued a
wopping 163 tickets for blocking the passing lane. That’s for the entire
state with a couple months of 2005 to go. So I don’t think they broke
200.
I do most of my driving on weekends. If I were a cop I could easily write a
dozen such tickets each weekend in about 4-5 hours of driving. working 5
hours a week, in years’ time, I could write about 600 of these tickets
alone. Yet, the entire force of the state police managed only 80 some in
the chicago area with the other half being in the rest of the state over
a period of aproximately 9-10 months. It’s another law that I am guessing
is only used as a way to find probable cause and otherwise selectively
enforced.
laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
> Article says lots of people in the left lane do under the speed
> limit!! What a lie that is.
Even legislators get it right from time to time.
No. As written the bill will only be in effect where the speed limit
is at least 65 MPH. Omaha’s interstates have a 60 MPH limit within and
near the city.
Are you passing traffic coming in from the merge? If the answer is
yes, then you are allowed to use the left lane. When you are done
passing the traffic merging into the right lane, move back to the right
lane.
Why make it harder than it needs to be? Keep Right, Except to Pass,
period. The only exception should be when a motorist needs to prepare
to make a left/u turn or left exit from the left lane. The speed limit
is irrelevant. If the limit was 40 mph, there’s still no reason to
drive 25 in the left lane holding up 40 mph traffic.
k…@jersey.net wrote:
> Why make it harder than it needs to be? Keep Right, Except to Pass,
> period. The only exception should be when a motorist needs to prepare
> to make a left/u turn or left exit from the left lane. The speed limit
> is irrelevant. If the limit was 40 mph, there’s still no reason to
> drive 25 in the left lane holding up 40 mph traffic.
it makes sense EXCEPT at the on-ramps….no one in their
right mind, except for the exceptionally slow-witted ones is
going to stay in the right lane when traffic is on the on-ramp.
the most comical (if they were not dangerous) incidents in
the right lane next to an on ramp is where both drivers
are inept at merging.
How backward is Nebraska that this law is only now being considered. KRETP
laws should be in effect in all states. More importantly, they should be
vigorously enforced.
—————
Alex
In article <1136959288.825211.292…@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
xeton2…@yahoo.com says…
>It’s really impossible to enforce anywhere except on seldom used
>freeways and there the law doesn’t matter. On heavily used freeways the
>LLD can always say there was no opening to let me back into the right
>lane. Stupid legislators.
If the trooper is dumb, that excuse might work. A smart trooper will observe
the LLB for a while before pulling them over. Then he will have all the
evidence he/she needs to get a conviction. It’s a bit more work but well
worth the effort.
————–
Alex
There must be a lot of slow-witted ones out there. Can’t tell you how
many I see that are driving along and SLOW DOWN because traffic wants
to merge. The traffic wanting to merge is almost always going slower
than the traffic on the mainline. If the traffic would just keep their
speed, they would be past the merging traffic in a half-second.
Instead, they slow down, and by doing so it actually blocks the car
trying to merge because now they both have matching speeds.
Polish Prince (Szynka) wrote:
> Hey Laura Bush Guy, If Laura Bush killed her
> boyfriend, she should be Locked-Up behind bars and
> not be being presently addressed as the "First Lady".
> Provide the proof that she , in-fact killed anyone.
No question she killed the guy
http://www.oaoa.com/news/nw050400b.htm
> Those of us alive at the time, remember Teddy Kennedy
> murdering his girlfriend in an intoxicated state by
> vehicular homicide. It made national news.
> Do a Google search and read about. All of the info is there.
> Every ounce.
> Teddy did no Jail Time, he was not even charged!
Liar. He was charged with leaving the scene of a fatal crash and pled
guilty.
> If Laura killed her boyfriend and walked.
> Why are you not equally enraged that
> Teddy killed his girlfriend and walked?
The case against laura is much stronger than that against ted. There
were witnesses with laura but none with ted. No question laura is
guilty of manslaughter if not murder. Ted may have been guilty of
manslaughter but the case was not very good.
Larry Gross wrote:
> It’ curious behavior because folks are passing them on the
> right.. and they do nothing.. holding their lane until they
> make their left turn.
> just speculating.. it seems that perhaps they are afraid
> that they won’t be able to move to the left lane to prepare
> for their left turn.. which, in true, makes me wonder if
> those folks are not really comfortable with executing
> lane changes in traffic…to start with.
Of course, that’s part of it. You can’t make a lane change if there’s
no room so peope make the change miles before it’s needed. Can’t fault
them for that.
Brent P wrote:
> In article <duudnbpN6_JRelneRVn…@comcast.com>, Joe S. wrote:
> > I have always been told — and I drive this way — that when driving on an
> > interstate and when approaching an on-ramp where other traffic is merging,
> > get into the left lane so the merging traffic can merge smoothly and not
> > cause backups on the on-ramp. So, in Nebraska it would be illegal to move
> > over into the left lane to let someone merge from an on-ramp into the right
> > lane?
> What you were told is nothing but a ‘patch’. People should merge
> properly. If they could, people would not be forced to move over for
> them. So much difficulty is caused by merge impared drivers. Too many
> people trying to merge into 70+ traffic at 45mph or less.
And why are people doin 70+ where the speed limit is 60? There’s the
problem.
tetraethylleadREMOVET…@yahoo.com (Brent P) writes:
>In article <1136981511.855366.295…@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Larry Gross wrote:
>> Here’s a scenario on how the left-lane issue will evolve and possibly
>> be resolved.
>Actually, it will probably parallel IL, where the law is little known and
>rarely enforced. Last I heard, in year two, the IL state police issued a
>wopping 163 tickets for blocking the passing lane. That’s for the entire
>state with a couple months of 2005 to go. So I don’t think they broke
>200.
Actually, the Illinois State Police have been somewhat busy with this.
But they’ve been trying to let drivers know not to be a left lane bandit
rather than issue lots of tickets. They’ve issued over 2,600 warnings,
instead of tickets.
Illinois. left-lane law wins applause
By Crystal Lindell
SPRINGFIELD . Illinois officials say a little-publicized two-year-old law
aimed at preventing people from blocking traffic by driving in the left
lane on interstates and other divided highways has made an impact.
The Illinois State Police report that 170 citations and 2,647 warnings have
been given out since the law was enacted Jan. 1, 2004.
Rick Hector, a spokesman for the state police, said that number is low
compared with other lane violations, but added that he thinks the law has
been successful.
.We just want people to realize you have to share the road,. he said.
Sen. Dan Rutherford, R-Chenoa, a sponsor of the bill that become law, said
the goal was not to give out a lot of citations, which cost $75 each, but
to educate people about safe lane usage. He said the large number of
warnings indicates that is what has happened.
Rutherford said when people hold up traffic in the left lane, they increase
congestion, tailgating and, often, road rage.
The law does not prevent people from driving in the left lane; it just
requires them to move to the right lane if a car is behind them, he said.
Hector said the law is geared toward creating safer roads.
.We have been teaching this for years in our defensive-driving class,. he
said. Those who only use the left lane to pass are less likely to be
changing lanes as often, he added.
Exceptions allowed in the law include instances of traffic congestion,
inclement weather, road hazards, left-side exits, tollways and law
enforcement or emergency vehicles requiring use of the left lane.
Hector said police use no specific standards to determine when someone has
violated the law. It is a judgment call on their part, he added.
He said the law has not prevented patrol officers from enforcing the speed
limit for those drivers who are using the left lane to pass.
.We are still strictly enforcing our speed limit law,. he added.
New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maine and Kentucky all have similar laws in
effect, according to Drive Right, Pass Left, an advocacy group that
promotes driving in the right lane unless there is a need to pass.
Joel Brunsvold, a former state legislator who retired recently as director
of the Illinois Department of Natural Resources, tried several times during
the 1990s to get such a law passed. Brunsvold said it became a .pet peeve.
of his because he often encountered drivers traveling under the speed limit
in the left lane of interstate highways while going between his home in
Milan and his legislative duties in Springfield.