So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht. (You can’t call what you do
in them driving) I recently was driving my parents for a while and am kinda
puzzled. Everything I enjoy about driving is not there, yet there is an odd
sort pleasure to it. It is sorta like being in a dream, unconnected to reality,
you just sort of float along the road, divorced from almost every sign that you
are driving a vehicle. Every command you enter into the system has a slight
delay before taking effect. THey are much better on the highway than on a city
streets, in fact one could almost get to enjoy the experience if you were say
driving in west texas, but on any sort of "fun" road they quickly pale.
odd
-Michael
R. Michael Litchfield writes
> So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht?
> Every command you enter into the system has a slight
> delay before taking effect. THey are much better on the highway than on
> a city streets, in fact one could almost get to enjoy the experience if
> you were say driving in west texas, but on any sort of "fun" road they
> quickly pale.
> odd
> -Michael
Hmm, I used to have a 1974 Ford LTD Station Wagon (oh, you could call that
an Aircraft Carrier, which we did) with a 400CID V8 under the hood, we
removed the air conditioning pump, and a couple of other things to lighten
the burden on the engine, and went out racing with it every Friday and
Saturday night on Northern Lights Blvd. in Anchorage, Alaska.
I beat almost every other car I went up against, even with a couple of
passengers…
it was fun, I think..
mlitchfi…@pimacc.pima.edu (R. Michael Litchfield) writes:
>So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht. (You can’t call what you do
>in them driving) I recently was driving my parents for a while and am kinda
>puzzled. Everything I enjoy about driving is not there, yet there is an odd
>sort pleasure to it. It is sorta like being in a dream, unconnected to reality,
Yeah. My Father-in-Law’s 1970 Oldsmobile 98 with a 455. Wow.
Great on the interstate, but hell in the parking lots.
Michael
In article <1993Feb8.193130.7…@pimacc.pima.edu>, mlitchfi…@pimacc.pima.edu (R. Michael Litchfield) writes:
|> So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht. (You can’t call what you do
|> in them driving) I recently was driving my parents for a while and am kinda
|> puzzled. Everything I enjoy about driving is not there, yet there is an odd
|> sort pleasure to it. It is sorta like being in a dream, unconnected to reality,
|> you just sort of float along the road, divorced from almost every sign that you
|> are driving a vehicle. Every command you enter into the system has a slight
|> delay before taking effect. THey are much better on the highway than on a city
|> streets, in fact one could almost get to enjoy the experience if you were say
|> driving in west texas, but on any sort of "fun" road they quickly pale.
|>
|> odd
|>
|> -Michael
Many people do not buy a car for the thrill of driving. They drive it
for the comfort of driving. Land Yachts are comfortable and a pleasure
to drive. Yes they tend to seperate you from the rest of the world,
but that is not necessarly bad.
I used to own Land Yachts and now I own a Probe. I love my Probe, but
I can’t take it off road like I could my other cars. It doesn’t handle
deep snow like my other cars. It makes more noise and has a rougher
ride than my Land Yachts. I’ve driven one of my old cruisers through
a stream and up a very lose bank on the othr side. I coudn’t have
dreamed of doing that with my Probe. However, the Probe is more fun
and being nimble makes it good for rush hour traffic.
It’s all a matter of priorities.
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mlitchfi…@pimacc.pima.edu (R. Michael Litchfield) writes:
>So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht. (You can’t call what you do
>in them driving) I recently was driving my parents for a while and am kinda
>puzzled. Everything I enjoy about driving is not there, yet there is an odd
>sort pleasure to it. It is sorta like being in a dream, unconnected to reality,
Yes, absolutely. One of my daily drivers is a 68 Plymouth Fury III. 5000 lbs
of the finest steel to come from Detroit. Originally named the "Rolls
Knardley" (rolls down one hill and kin’ardly get up the next), with a little
speed tuning, it now has enough power.
>you just sort of float along the road, divorced from almost every sign that you
>are driving a vehicle. Every command you enter into the system has a slight
>delay before taking effect. THey are much better on the highway than on a city
>streets, in fact one could almost get to enjoy the experience if you were say
>driving in west texas, but on any sort of "fun" road they quickly pale.
Unlike the GM and Ford land yachts I’ve had in the past, the Fury actually
handles pretty well. Well enough, in fact, to watch a yuppy scum in a
Benz spin off the shoulder of the exit ramp while trying to follow me
while I was 4 wheel drifting. The steering is very light but well coupled.
It is equipped with a HUGE sway bar front and back so there is little
body roll. The brakes are a bit touchy but I’m working on that.
The car looks kinda "gramps" but it is enough of a pleasure to drive to
make up for it. It is obvious why the car is so much pleasure to drive
when you look at it for a moment. It was built before the age of
political correctness in automotive design. Therefore everything in the
car was designed for functionality. The steering wheel is where it ought
to be and there is a massive amount of room in the cockpit. I, at 6’7", have
several INCHES of headroom and can stretch my legs fully. The air
conditioning and heat is sized large enough to get the job done without
regard to CAFE. I can put 6 people in the car in comfort. There is
enough room in the trunk to lose a Toyota or 2. And a good stereo sounds
FINE!
Just how much we’ve allowed the government to force us to give up became
starkly evident during a series of trips I made before christmas. We
took a trip to Dallas in my wife’s Camry, the epitome of "correct" cars.
Then we took another meandering trip with my parents in mom’s
new Lincoln. Then I took back-to-back trips to Jacksonville and Daytona,
Fl. By the time we got to Dallas, my back and knees ached so bad I
could not sleep the first night. I was cramped the whole time and never
could find a position comfortable enough to nap. My mom’s Lincoln was
at least as bad. The seats are terrible fit for my large body. No room
to cross my legs or otherwise get comfortable when not driving.
Then came the florida trip. I drove by myself to Jacksonville. I
decided to not do the Interstate and instead take the old road (hwy 84?)
I had plenty of room, my luggage and equipment was lost in the trunk and
I arrived strangely refreshed. I realized after awhile that this was
the first trip I’ve taken in YEARs where I was actually COMFORTABLE. On
the trip to Daytona, to the Thanksgiving rod show, my wife went along.
We had a trade show booth loaded in the trunk along with our clothes.
Again, we took the old road. The seats are large enough that my wife
could curl up and sleep – something she’s never been able to do before.
Again, we arrived refreshed and comfortable. My wife hates the looks of
this "old clunker" as she calles it, but she has admitted that it is the
most comfortable car she’s ever ridden in.
The interesting thing is, the economy is quite good. I keep a spreadsheet
of costs in my HP95 palmtop. The overall mileage since I got the car
has been 19.5 mpg. On the highway, I get 24 mpg. This is almost identical
to what my wife’s Camry does.
This car finally killed off any vestigal interest I had in getting a new
I seldom have any trouble at all changing lanes 
car. Anyone who has never enjoyed the comforts of a land yacht really
cannot appreciate it. And we haven’t even talked about the offensive
driving possibilities with 6 feet of trunk sticking out behind the
wheels
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In article <1993Feb8.193130.7…@pimacc.pima.edu> mlitchfi…@pimacc.pima.edu (R. Michael Litchfield) writes:
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>From: mlitchfi…@pimacc.pima.edu (R. Michael Litchfield)
>Subject: Land Yachts
>Date: 9 Feb 93 02:31:30 GMT
>So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht. (You can’t call what you do
>in them driving) I recently was driving my parents for a while and am kinda
>puzzled. Everything I enjoy about driving is not there, yet there is an odd
>sort pleasure to it. It is sorta like being in a dream, unconnected to reality,
>you just sort of float along the road, divorced from almost every sign that you
>are driving a vehicle. Every command you enter into the system has a slight
>delay before taking effect. THey are much better on the highway than on a city
>streets, in fact one could almost get to enjoy the experience if you were say
>driving in west texas, but on any sort of "fun" road they quickly pale.
>odd
>-Michael
From time to time I drive my 1976 Caddilac Eldorado Biarittz, It’s the
largest two door car I’ve ever seen. While I own two performance cars,
I still enjoy crusing around in the Eldo, with HUGE expanses of leather
to lay around on, a 500c.i.d. plant and front wheel drive. It’s great in
snow, has a great heater, air conditioner, and will hit 120. A lot nicer
highway car than my Mustang or Trans Am, quiet, comfortable, fast, etc.
Of course at 9m.p.g. at 95 m.p.h., it don’t come cheap, but It’ll tow
my motorcycle trailer up Vail pass at 75!
Joel.
In article <zcts…@dixie.com>, j…@dixie.com (John De Armond) wrote:
> Yes, absolutely. One of my daily drivers is a 68 Plymouth Fury III.
> 5000 lbs of the finest steel to come from Detroit.
You wouldn’t happen to have the 383 in that would you? My folks
had a ’66 Fury III station wagon with the 383 that could really
get up and go. Alas, the car died many years ago, but ever since
then I’ve been on the lookout for another Fury, preferrably a
ragtop sedan with the 383 (though I don’t know if they even made
such a thing).
jeff singleton
j.d.single…@larc.nasa.gov
I sort of like Land Yachts. I had a 1972 Lincoln Continental,
and it was one of the most fun cars I’ve had. It was just before emissions
controls strangled the engine, so the 460 put out 365 hp and 500 ft/lbs
of torque stock. It weighed over 6000 lbs. and was over 20 feet long
(yes, I measured it). It averaged better milage than my truck, getting
7 mpg city and 20 mpg highway. The trunk was big enough to fit two 55
gallon drums (with some squishing) and close. With six people in the car
(and with room to spare) it out accelerated a late model Camaro. Yea, I
know that’s not saying much, but for a 3-ton car…
Anyway, it was fun, especally all of the power accessories,
and I was able sell it for five times what I paid for it (apparently
someone thought it was a classic) and gave me some good laughs. The
only complaint I have about it is that the cruse control didn’t work
above 110 mph. Oh well, what can you do.
jim…@wpi.wpi.edu
Quote of the moment:
Where is my ax?!?
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In article zcts…@dixie.com, j…@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
[snip]
>Yes, absolutely. One of my daily drivers is a 68 Plymouth Fury III. 5000 lbs
Is that some relative to the car(s) in Steven King’s "Christine"?
>Just how much we’ve allowed the government to force us to give up became
>starkly evident during a series of trips I made before christmas. We
>took a trip to Dallas in my wife’s Camry, the epitome of "correct" cars.
>Then we took another meandering trip with my parents in mom’s
>new Lincoln. Then I took back-to-back trips to Jacksonville and Daytona,
>Fl. By the time we got to Dallas, my back and knees ached so bad I
>could not sleep the first night. I was cramped the whole time and never
>could find a position comfortable enough to nap. My mom’s Lincoln was
>at least as bad. The seats are terrible fit for my large body. No room
>to cross my legs or otherwise get comfortable when not driving.
I don’t often agree with you, John, but in this case, you’re spot on. I’m "only"
6’3" and 245 pounds, but I *loathe* compact cars. Knees jammed under the dash,
head jammed against roof lining, hit my head getting in and out.
I’ve just bought a Range Rover, and I love it, even at 18 mp(UK)g and UK petrol
prices.
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With all this talk about big cars it reminds me of a 68 charger
that I use to have.It had a 440. Believe this car is bigger than most
people think.I loved it, it was really comfortable to drive and the
staight line speed was great.I think I all ready caught my quato of
beating irocs and mustangs with it.But get this it had 4 wheel drum
brakes( AAARRRRGGGG!!!!)there were at least a dozen times that I smoked
the brakes and lost pressure. I sold it because I got an offer I
couldn’t
refuse. Three times what I paid for it after 4 years of owning it.
Sure was a lot of fun though.
Sean
mlitchfi…@pimacc.pima.edu (R. Michael Litchfield) writes:
> So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht. (You can’t call what you
> in them driving) I recently was driving my parents for a while and am kinda
> puzzled. Everything I enjoy about driving is not there, yet there is an odd
> sort pleasure to it. It is sorta like being in a dream, unconnected to realit
Yup. I take fairly long road trips now and then (400+ miles each way),
and I try to get something big, like a Caprice. I can’t stretch out in
anything small, and with the cruise control on at 65, mileage from even
a monster like that is pretty respectable – mid 20′s!
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In article <1993Feb9.144135.11…@hubcap.clemson.edu> mich…@hubcap.clemson.edu (michael dale townsend) writes:
> mlitchfi…@pimacc.pima.edu (R. Michael Litchfield) writes:
> >So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht. (You can’t call what you do
> >in them driving) I recently was driving my parents for a while and am kinda
> >puzzled. Everything I enjoy about driving is not there, yet there is an odd
> >sort pleasure to it. It is sorta like being in a dream, unconnected to reality,
> Yeah. My Father-in-Law’s 1970 Oldsmobile 98 with a 455. Wow.
> Great on the interstate, but hell in the parking lots.
> Michael
Two summers ago, I bought a 78 Olds 98 Regency, with a 350 – wish I
had a 455 8^). Its previous owner was my buddies grandfather, who was
the original owner. This car was well maintained. Anyway, 2 summers
before that, I was driving an 85 IROC-Z. Certainly, all the wonderful
things about driving the IROC are not there, but other things are.
This Olds is sooooooo comfortable. I miss the handling and the quick
acceleration of the Iroc. But the Iroc suspension was tough to ride
on sometimes, unless I was on a highway-type road. My land yacht is
great – I feel no bumps, and very little road noise is noticable, and
I’ve got a 6-way power seat that is excellent. IT IS a different kind
of driving experience though – not for everyone, but I enjoy it alot.
I don’t miss the attention I got from cops, or the insurance premiums
that are both endemic with IROCs, or other hot cars occupied by single
males. Since the timing chain was replaced, the car has pretty decent
acceleration again.
Mark
John De Armond (j…@dixie.com) wrote:
: mlitchfi…@pimacc.pima.edu (R. Michael Litchfield) writes:
:
: >So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht. (You can’t call what you do
: >in them driving) I recently was driving my parents for a while and am kinda
: >puzzled. Everything I enjoy about driving is not there, yet there is an odd
: >sort pleasure to it. It is sorta like being in a dream, unconnected to reality,
……what’s a land yacht?
Rhys
:wq damn you!!
>>So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht. (You can’t call what you do
>>in them driving) I recently was driving my parents for a while and am kinda
>>puzzled. Everything I enjoy about driving is not there, yet there is an odd
>>sort pleasure to it. It is sorta like being in a dream, unconnected to reality,
>Great on the interstate, but hell in the parking lots.
Hmmm.
Parking lots are fine. Well, when backing up, you have to watch
the front and the back very carefully. Try city parking spaces for fun.
I was driving a Marquis for quite a while…in NYC (good % in manhattan).
How big was it?
Well, the Ford LTD is a SMALL car compared to it.
I had to wait for TWO cars to leave in order to park it.
Half the time, I didn’t have to start the engine, because
when I got in, I was already there.
Trucks would give me right of way.
Steering was as nimble as an elephant (however, do observe the elephants
next time that you go to the zoo, and you may be surprised).
My heart got lots of exercise on narrow roads, streets with double parked cars..
Once when I went to my car in a lot, the guard approached me, very serious,
and told me that my parked car was hit by another car, and if I wanted to make
a claim, blah blah blah. The car (Toyota) was almost totaled (I was told,
didn’t see it). So I tried to figure out where that car hit me. I finally
gave up and asked the guard; the bumper and oh yeah, the rubber molding on it
was just a little loose. Give the poor careless guy trouble?
No, he suffered enough. Besides, the rubber was loose before.
Under the hood? Big hood? All engine. 400 CID V8. Wimpy for the
size of the car though. VERY comfortable car for passenger. lots of room
inside. I could carry 8" boards inside and close the windows.
My Chevy Malibu feels like a compact sports car in contrast.
In article <1993Feb8.193130.7…@pimacc.pima.edu> mlitchfi…@pimacc.pima.edu (R. Michael Litchfield) writes:
> So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht…
Sure do. My repertoire has included a ’68 Newport, ’68 Caprice, ’71
Newport, ’66 Fury (really mid-sized at the time), and currently a ’64
Imperial.
> It is sorta like being in a dream, unconnected to reality,
> you just sort of float along the road…
I guess you never drove an older Chrysler. Their suspensions always
tended to be pretty stiff; only the car’s weight really prevented back
injury. :-) You just have to pay more attention to your inner ear,
and less to the bouncing and tilting of the car, to feel like you’re
driving.
> Every command you enter into the system has a slight
> delay before taking effect…
They are deliberate cars thanks to their weight, especially the hefty
engine in front. We’re talking around 300 HP, which isn’t much
considering their weight, but that power is usually as accessible (or
more) at 80mph as it is at 40.
> …one could almost get to enjoy the experience if you were say
> driving in west texas, but on any sort of "fun" road they quickly pale.
Add some good tires to their already stiff suspension and an old
Chrysler will handle quite well; not like a sports car, mind you, but I
drive on a lot of narrow, winding roads as quickly in my Imperial as I
do in my Challenger, with little difficulty.
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harl…@miki.pictel.com (Dan Harling) writes:
>In article <1993Feb8.193130.7…@pimacc.pima.edu> mlitchfi…@pimacc.pima.edu (R. Michael Litchfield) writes:
>> So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht…
>Sure do. My repertoire has included a ’68 Newport, ’68 Caprice, ’71
>Newport, ’66 Fury (really mid-sized at the time), and currently a ’64
>Imperial.
Thius reminds me of a car I saw about a month ago. It was a Chrysler Newport,
painted an obviously non-factory light green, with a Surgeon General’s warning
on the driver’s door!
(For those of you who don’t smoke and don’t care, Newports are a menthol
cigarette in a green box.)
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I would like to know if there are any SCCA sponsored autocrosses in the Bay
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If not, can someone tell me who should I contact to find out about future events.
Thanks!
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r…@unisys.co.nz (Rhys Hermansson) writes:
> John De Armond (j…@dixie.com) wrote:
> : mlitchfi…@pimacc.pima.edu (R. Michael Litchfield) writes:
> :
> : >So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht. (You can’t call what y
> : >in them driving) I recently was driving my parents for a while and am kind
> : >puzzled. Everything I enjoy about driving is not there, yet there is an od
> : >sort pleasure to it. It is sorta like being in a dream, unconnected to rea
> ……what’s a land yacht?
I don’t think anybody’s come up with a hard definition, but I’d propose
the following guidelines:
1. Vehicle must weigh at least 4,000 lbs.
2. Three people must be able to sit in the front seat without their hips
touching.
3. Gas tank capacity of 20gal., minimum.
4. If you can hear road noise at 55, it’s not a land yacht.
> :wq damn you!!
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In article <RDo1yB4w1…@major.panix.com> d…@major.panix.com (Dave O’Shea) writes:
>r…@unisys.co.nz (Rhys Hermansson) writes:
>> John De Armond (j…@dixie.com) wrote:
>> : mlitchfi…@pimacc.pima.edu (R. Michael Litchfield) writes:
>> :
>> : >So does anyone really enjoy comanding a land yacht. (You can’t call what y
>> : >in them driving) I recently was driving my parents for a while and am kind
>> : >puzzled. Everything I enjoy about driving is not there, yet there is an od
>> : >sort pleasure to it. It is sorta like being in a dream, unconnected to rea
>> ……what’s a land yacht?
>I don’t think anybody’s come up with a hard definition, but I’d propose
>the following guidelines:
>1. Vehicle must weigh at least 4,000 lbs.
>2. Three people must be able to sit in the front seat without their hips
>touching.
>3. Gas tank capacity of 20gal., minimum.
>4. If you can hear road noise at 55, it’s not a land yacht.
And it needs to be at least 20 feet from bumper to bumper.
Proud owner of two land yachts….. 1965 Chrysler 300L 413cid
1970 CHrysler 300 Hurst 440cid
Shannon Lilley
lil…@spdc.ti.com
In article <1993Feb16.142413.18…@spdc.ti.com> lil…@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Shannon Lilley) writes:
>In article <RDo1yB4w1…@major.panix.com> d…@major.panix.com (Dave O’Shea) writes:
>>r…@unisys.co.nz (Rhys Hermansson) writes:
>>> ……what’s a land yacht?
>>1. Vehicle must weigh at least 4,000 lbs.
>>2. Three people must be able to sit in the front seat without their hips
>>touching.
>>3. Gas tank capacity of 20gal., minimum.
>>4. If you can hear road noise at 55, it’s not a land yacht.
>And it needs to be at least 20 feet from bumper to bumper.
6. it must have a turning radius larger than 40 feet.
7. steering must be 4 turns lock to lock, and if you can feel anything
through the steering wheel, it’s not a land yacht.
8. the suspension must be sufficiently soft that running over roadkill
produces nothing but a momentary floating sensation.
-teddy
In article <1993Feb17.111046.12…@leland.Stanford.EDU> tedeb…@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes:
>8. the suspension must be sufficiently soft that running over roadkill
>produces nothing but a momentary floating sensation.
I would eliminate the clause about the suspension being soft; among the
Chrysler land-yachts that I have owned, it’s the sheer mass of the
vehicle that keeps the car level, not a soft suspension. Regardless of
the physics, however, roadkill (and speed bumps!) should be barely
noticeable.
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Previously, tedeb…@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) wrote:
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>In article <1993Feb16.142413.18…@spdc.ti.com> lil…@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Shannon Lilley) writes:
>>In article <RDo1yB4w1…@major.panix.com> d…@major.panix.com (Dave O’Shea) writes:
>>>r…@unisys.co.nz (Rhys Hermansson) writes:
>>>> ……what’s a land yacht?
>>>1. Vehicle must weigh at least 4,000 lbs.
>>>2. Three people must be able to sit in the front seat without their hips
>>>touching.
>>>3. Gas tank capacity of 20gal., minimum.
>>>4. If you can hear road noise at 55, it’s not a land yacht.
>>And it needs to be at least 20 feet from bumper to bumper.
>6. it must have a turning radius larger than 40 feet.
>7. steering must be 4 turns lock to lock, and if you can feel anything
>through the steering wheel, it’s not a land yacht.
>8. the suspension must be sufficiently soft that running over roadkill
>produces nothing but a momentary floating sensation.
>-teddy
Well my 1970 Chevy 4 door Impala could fit two adult corpses in the trunk
with room for my chainsaw and trash bags. ;->
Paul L.
After reading these posts I think someone should form a "Land Yacht’s
Fan Society."
John
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