‘m from austria and a fan from the ”LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE”
RALLY-CAR.
I’ve been two times in the USA but never saw this car.
Please can someone answer my questions:
1.) Is this car with four wheel drive about 210 hp in the USA available?
2.) What’s the price?
Please send me an e-mail, when you have informations about this car.
Thank you
Christian
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Christian Steger (ste…@fititk02.tu-graz.ac.at) wrote:
: ‘m from austria and a fan from the ”LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE”
: RALLY-CAR.
Lancia Delta Integrale –> What an awesome car!!!
Well, as far as I know unless you make a SPECIAL order from a
importer, I do not think the car is for sale in the US.
SIGH!
This car will kick: Prelude (190hp), Eclipse turbo, Corrado VR6, Mustang…
BUTTS!!! in terms of handling and 0-60.
Handling-> 4 consecutive years winner of European Rallies.
0-60-> 1 millisecond FASTER than the Testarrosa. (Testarrosa not 512TR)
In article <2uu487INN…@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>, ste…@fititk02.tu-graz.ac.at (Christian Steger) writes:
|> ‘m from austria and a fan from the ”LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE”
|> RALLY-CAR.
|>
|> I’ve been two times in the USA but never saw this car.
|>
|> Please can someone answer my questions:
|>
|> 1.) Is this car with four wheel drive about 210 hp in the USA available?
|>
|> 2.) What’s the price?
|>
I hope your talking about the Lancia Delta HF turbo intergrale…..not that new
ugly version of the delta that just came out last year….
I love that car, and if I could get it in the US I would but I’ve never seen it
here and I’ve been around for 7 years now. I only heard of one being sighted in
New York City, but I’m not sure this is true…..
Andrea
In article <2uum0g$…@news.bu.edu> carlo…@bu.edu (Carlos Tseng) writes:
>Well, as far as I know unless you make a SPECIAL order from a
>importer, I do not think the car is for sale in the US.
>SIGH!
You can say that again…
>This car will kick: Prelude (190hp), Eclipse turbo, Corrado VR6, Mustang…
>BUTTS!!! in terms of handling and 0-60.
The hell with 0-60; your next sentence says it all… No further comment.
>Handling-> 4 consecutive years winner of European Rallies.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The saddest thing is that we think NASCAR is exciting…
Spiros
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In article s…@news.bu.edu, carlo…@bu.edu (Carlos Tseng) writes:
> Christian Steger (ste…@fititk02.tu-graz.ac.at) wrote:
> : ‘m from austria and a fan from the ”LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE”
> : RALLY-CAR.
> Lancia Delta Integrale –> What an awesome car!!!
> Handling-> 4 consecutive years winner of European Rallies.
It kick even more butts.
6 (+-1) consecutive World Rally Championships.
The most succesfull rally car in the world!
best regards
-Karl Hansell
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos (c2…@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com) wrote:
: >Handling-> 4 consecutive years winner of European Rallies.
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: The saddest thing is that we think NASCAR is exciting…
That’s too bad, you should see one of the European races. It is truly:
Machine VS Nature
There are NO nice roads, It is all dust, dumps, curves…
: Spiros
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Carlos Tseng (carlo…@bu.edu) wrote:
: Well, as far as I know unless you make a SPECIAL order from a
: importer, I do not think the car is for sale in the US.
: SIGH!
: This car will kick: Prelude (190hp), Eclipse turbo, Corrado VR6, Mustang…
: BUTTS!!! in terms of handling and 0-60.
: Handling-> 4 consecutive years winner of European Rallies.
: 0-60-> 1 millisecond FASTER than the Testarrosa. (Testarrosa not 512TR)
I’m just curious how this car will fare up with Audi Quattro Coupe
Turbo’s (220hp). I believe that the Audi is very much the same class as
the Integrale, 4WD and excellent rally history.
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I don’t know about the Delta Integrale but there is a Grp B Lancia Delta
S4 that resides just north of Houston, Texas. It is the most awesome
display of brute acceleration of anything on the road. I *tried* to follow
this car one evening down Woodlands Parkway, not a chance. Every time I see
a Grp B car they never cease to amaze and astound me. They were fantastic
feats of engineering.
-Mac.
PS. Those interested in Lancias, Audis, ect. should join the rally mail
list. Send inquires to RALL…@GUVM.CCF.GEORGETOWN.EDU.
Christian Steger (ste…@fititk02.tu-graz.ac.at) wrote:
: ‘m from austria and a fan from the ”LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE”
: RALLY-CAR.
: I’ve been two times in the USA but never saw this car.
: Please can someone answer my questions:
: 1.) Is this car with four wheel drive about 210 hp in the USA available?
: 2.) What’s the price?
: Please send me an e-mail, when you have informations about this car.
Hi Christian,
I didn’t see it too. I think I didn’t even see the Lacia Delta…
Would be interesing. Perhaps too fast for the Americans…
Servus,
Martin
Muenchen, Bayern
In article <CsIJ5x….@Yuri.CC.Uni-Augsburg.DE> wur…@teflon.RZ.Uni-Augsburg.DE (Martin Wurzer) writes:
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>From: wur…@teflon.RZ.Uni-Augsburg.DE (Martin Wurzer)
>Subject: Re: LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 09:46:41 GMT
>Christian Steger (ste…@fititk02.tu-graz.ac.at) wrote:
>: ‘m from austria and a fan from the ”LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE”
>: RALLY-CAR.
>: I’ve been two times in the USA but never saw this car.
>: Please can someone answer my questions:
>: 1.) Is this car with four wheel drive about 210 hp in the USA available?
>: 2.) What’s the price?
>: Please send me an e-mail, when you have informations about this car.
>Hi Christian,
>I didn’t see it too. I think I didn’t even see the Lacia Delta…
>Would be interesing. Perhaps too fast for the Americans…
>Servus,
>Martin
>Muenchen, Bayern
>>: ‘m from austria and a fan from the ”LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE”
>>: RALLY-CAR.
>>: I’ve been two times in the USA but never saw this car.
>>: Please can someone answer my questions:
>>: 1.) Is this car with four wheel drive about 210 hp in the USA available?
Lancia does not market in the U.S. To do so, they would need to get a
type certification for each model – a government document that says the
cars meet U.S. safety and emissions regulations. An individual importing
single cars would need to get each individual car modified and inspected.
Individual vehicles are allowed in without all this mess for special
purposes – races, shows, etc. And have to be out of the country in a
specific time period or they’re crushed.
Pity, cause they make a great rallyemobile…
Bob Benson
bben…@sscvx1.ssc.gov
In article <1994Jul27.222846….@msus1.msus.edu>, cs270…@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (cs270 user 003) writes:
|>
|> Nope, no Lancias whatsoever in the U.S. In fact, the only non-exotic
|> Italian car in the U.S. is Alfa Romeo, and they’re struggling. Not that
|> we need them! There are other 210 hp 4wd car here, though, the new Eagle
|> Talon/Mitsubishi Eclipse. I don’t know if that’s available in Europe.
|>
Eclipses are sold in Europe, but in some countries they have high
import taxes and therefore are much higher priced. Still I don’t think
anything in the 210hp 4wd class can even come close to the power and
handling of a Lancia Delta HF Turbo Integrale. That car is awesome and all
the rally titles are there to prove it……
Andrea
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>>From: wur…@teflon.RZ.Uni-Augsburg.DE (Martin Wurzer)
>>Subject: Re: LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE
>>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 09:46:41 GMT
>>Christian Steger (ste…@fititk02.tu-graz.ac.at) wrote:
>>: ‘m from austria and a fan from the ”LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE”
>>: RALLY-CAR.
>>: I’ve been two times in the USA but never saw this car.
>>: Please can someone answer my questions:
>>: 1.) Is this car with four wheel drive about 210 hp in the USA available?
>>: 2.) What’s the price?
>>: Please send me an e-mail, when you have informations about this car.
Nope, no Lancias whatsoever in the U.S. In fact, the only non-exotic
Italian car in the U.S. is Alfa Romeo, and they’re struggling. Not that
we need them! There are other 210 hp 4wd car here, though, the new Eagle
Talon/Mitsubishi Eclipse. I don’t know if that’s available in Europe.
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In article <1994Jul27.222846….@msus1.msus.edu>,
cs270…@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (cs270 user 003) writes:
>Nope, no Lancias whatsoever in the U.S.
Sorry but I saw one at the airport in Indianoplis during May
Eric Fletcher
Instructor FAST COMPANY RACING SCHOOL
In <1994Jul27.222846….@msus1.msus.edu>, cs270…@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (cs270 user 003) writes:
>Nope, no Lancias whatsoever in the U.S. In fact, the only non-exotic
>Italian car in the U.S. is Alfa Romeo, and they’re struggling. Not that
>we need them! There are other 210 hp 4wd car here, though, the new Eagle
*************
Why is that? Please explain. Do you need hondas then?
Marcus Bonse email: m.h.w.bo…@wbmt.tudelft.nl
Delft University of Technology
Lab. for Micro Engineering
In article <31cood$…@search01.news.aol.com>
steadi…@aol.com (STEADI RIC) writes:
> In article <1994Jul27.222846….@msus1.msus.edu>,
> cs270…@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (cs270 user 003) writes:
> >Nope, no Lancias whatsoever in the U.S.
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> Sorry but I saw one at the airport in Indianoplis during May
> Eric Fletcher
> Instructor FAST COMPANY RACING SCHOOL
Maybe we should modify "whatsoever" to "currently imported" for the
literal minded. I seem to recall that it has been on the order of 10
years since Lancias were imported to the US.
Robert A. Hafley R.A.HAF…@LaRC.NASA.GOV
Mail Stop 188A AS&M, INC.
2 West Reid Street Assigned to Materials Division
NASA Langley Research Center Building 1205, Room 229F
Hampton, VA 23681-0001 Phone +1 804 864-8078
In article <31ioc6$…@reznor.larc.nasa.gov>, r.a.haf…@larc.nasa.gov
(rob) wrote:
> In article <31cood$…@search01.news.aol.com>
> steadi…@aol.com (STEADI RIC) writes:
> > In article <1994Jul27.222846….@msus1.msus.edu>,
> > cs270…@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (cs270 user 003) writes:
> > >Nope, no Lancias whatsoever in the U.S.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^
> > Sorry but I saw one at the airport in Indianoplis during May
WHat a pity, you guys are missing out on all the fun over there…
. But, over 60% of all
Especially with the Delta Integrale in mind… I’d sell my mother AND my
Lancia Dedra 1.8 i.e. just to get a genuine Delta Integrale…. That car is
STILL the king of rally racing. It’s a pity that big mama FIAT want to
position Alfa as the ‘sporty’ brand, and Lancia as the ‘exclusive’ brand.
For an ‘exclusive’ brand, Lancia has been making a stunning array of *very*
sporty cars… Maybe, just maybe, we’ll see the new Delta model re-emerge
in rally sport. Lancia has been winning about every single race over here
since the mid 80′s. OK, that’s slightly overdon
races run have been won by Lancia. World rally champions like 88, 89, 90,
91 and before and after…
Cheers, Jurgen.
In article <CtuIws….@news.tudelft.nl>, m.h.w.bo…@wbmt.tudelft.nl
(Marcus Bonse) wrote:
> In <1994Jul27.222846….@msus1.msus.edu>, cs270…@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (cs270 user 003) writes:
> >Nope, no Lancias whatsoever in the U.S. In fact, the only non-exotic
> >Italian car in the U.S. is Alfa Romeo, and they’re struggling. Not that
> >we need them! There are other 210 hp 4wd car here, though, the new Eagle
> *************
> Why is that? Please explain. Do you need hondas then?
> Marcus Bonse email: m.h.w.bo…@wbmt.tudelft.nl
> Delft University of Technology
> Lab. for Micro Engineering
Good comment!
Cheers, Jurgen
In article <CtuIws….@news.tudelft.nl> m.h.w.bo…@wbmt.tudelft.nl (Marcus Bonse) writes:
>In <1994Jul27.222846….@msus1.msus.edu>, cs270…@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (cs270 user 003) writes:
>>Nope, no Lancias whatsoever in the U.S. In fact, the only non-exotic
>>Italian car in the U.S. is Alfa Romeo, and they’re struggling. Not that
>>we need them! There are other 210 hp 4wd car here, though, the new Eagle
> *************
>Why is that? Please explain. Do you need hondas then?
>Marcus Bonse email: m.h.w.bo…@wbmt.tudelft.nl
>Delft University of Technology
>Lab. for Micro Engineering
Sorry for that little comment if it insulted any Lancia lovers out
there! I guess I should put it in a different way: Even if it’s sold in
the U.S. it would probably sell quite poorly. Why? I don’t know. Maybe
Americans just don’t see a need for a boxy, rather outdated
(exterior-wise), small, blindingly fast car with extraordinary handling
and an engine that has to be revved high to get the most of it (read
some other post before this about how Americans want power down low in
the rev range).
Somehow Italian cars don’t sell well here. It might be that Americans
don’t care about Italian cars, or Italian car manufacturers don’t care
about American public! Can’t say Alfa Romeo hasn’t tried its best,
though, with all that excellent warranty (I think it’s 2 or 3 years free
maintenance, all you pay is gas, plus regular 5 year warranty or
something!) yet the public just won’t buy’em. Maybe they need cheaper
cars, (like the, umm…Lancias!) the public might be more willing to
buy cars that are considered ‘risky’ if it wouldn’t be so expensive.
Proof that average American buyer’s taste of cars is a bit strange: The
Ford Tempo and Chevy Cavalier are still one of the best selling car in
the U.S.! Imagine if they were sold in Europe!
Bernardus
In article <1994Aug1.175645….@msus1.msus.edu> cs270…@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (cs270 user 003) writes:
>Proof that average American buyer’s taste of cars is a bit strange: The
>Ford Tempo and Chevy Cavalier are still one of the best selling car in
>the U.S.! Imagine if they were sold in Europe!
The Cavalier was sold in Europe long before it made it in the US. Different names
of course. Not to mention the Chevette, Pontiac Le Mans….
The Lancia Delta etc comes from a rich tradition of rallye cars. Unfortunately
the tradition won’t do squat if I can’t find a dealer or if the car rusts to
pieces.
Spiros
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c2…@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
> The Cavalier was sold in Europe long before it made it in the US.
> Different names of course.
The Vauxhall Cavalier isn’t the same car as the J-bodied Chevrolet
Cavalier.
I believe Opel makes a version of the Vauxhall Cavalier under some
other model name, although I forget what it’s called.
Geoff
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In article <1994Aug2.201645.2…@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com>,
c2…@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) wrote:
> In article <1994Aug1.175645….@msus1.msus.edu> cs270…@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (cs270 user 003) writes:
> >Proof that average American buyer’s taste of cars is a bit strange: The
> >Ford Tempo and Chevy Cavalier are still one of the best selling car in
> >the U.S.! Imagine if they were sold in Europe!
> The Cavalier was sold in Europe long before it made it in the US. Different names
> of course. Not to mention the Chevette, Pontiac Le Mans….
> The Lancia Delta etc comes from a rich tradition of rallye cars. Unfortunately
> the tradition won’t do squat if I can’t find a dealer or if the car rusts to
> pieces.
Love, care, love, more care, more love, more care… Italian cars never die
on you if you treat them right. And with a Delta Integrale, you need to
know your mechanics anyway, otherwise the car’s a total waste on the owner.
Remember, an italian car is NOT a car, it is a piece of the soul of Italy.
And to FINALLY stop the fallacy of rusting italian cars: that was true in
the 70s (they kinda forgot to make steel, then). Nowaday’s the’re just as
good or bad as any other. Love, care, love, care….
And TRUCKLOADS of driving fun!
Cheers, Jurgen.
[Lancia - or die]
In article <31oik7$…@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, geo…@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM
(Geoff Miller) wrote:
> c2…@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
> > The Cavalier was sold in Europe long before it made it in the US.
> > Different names of course.
> The Vauxhall Cavalier isn’t the same car as the J-bodied Chevrolet
> Cavalier.
> I believe Opel makes a version of the Vauxhall Cavalier under some
> other model name, although I forget what it’s called.
Actually its the other way ’round: Vauxhall makes a version of the opel
Vectra (YUKK!).
Hey! This has zip to do with Lancia! Cut it out!
Cheers, Jurgen.
[Lancia - or die]
In <31oik7$…@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geo…@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>The Vauxhall Cavalier isn’t the same car as the J-bodied Chevrolet
>Cavalier.
It isn’t now, but they used to both be J-bodies. GM-Europe updated the
platform, but GM-US did not.
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Georgia Institute of Technology * I wanna be, a Nacho Man!
Internet: grah…@oit.gatech.edu * - Homer Simpson
In article <jmvdpol-030894233…@slip38-228.hacktic.nl> jmvd…@hacktic.nl (Jurgen van.der.Pol) writes:
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>In article <1994Aug2.201645.2…@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com>,
>c2…@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) wrote:
>> In article <1994Aug1.175645….@msus1.msus.edu> cs270…@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (cs270 user 003) writes:
>> >Proof that average American buyer’s taste of cars is a bit strange: The
>> >Ford Tempo and Chevy Cavalier are still one of the best selling car in
>> >the U.S.! Imagine if they were sold in Europe!
>> The Cavalier was sold in Europe long before it made it in the US. Different names
>> of course. Not to mention the Chevette, Pontiac Le Mans….
>> The Lancia Delta etc comes from a rich tradition of rallye cars. Unfortunately
>> the tradition won’t do squat if I can’t find a dealer or if the car rusts to
>> pieces.
>Love, care, love, more care, more love, more care… Italian cars never die
>on you if you treat them right. And with a Delta Integrale, you need to
>know your mechanics anyway, otherwise the car’s a total waste on the owner.
>Remember, an italian car is NOT a car, it is a piece of the soul of Italy.
>And to FINALLY stop the fallacy of rusting italian cars: that was true in
>the 70s (they kinda forgot to make steel, then). Nowaday’s the’re just as
>good or bad as any other. Love, care, love, care….
>And TRUCKLOADS of driving fun!
>Cheers, Jurgen.
>[Lancia - or die]
Apparently Americans don’t care much about their cars, that’s probably
why VW and Alfa Romeo isn’t selling well in the US (isn’t selling at all?)
and we love Japanese cars so much. I like cars very much, but I wouldn’t
want a car that I have to toil under the hood every once a while fixing
minor (or major) stuff.
Bernardus.