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Is Handicapped Parking also Commercial Parking?

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DEL MAR, CA – Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he
didn’t feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was
obstructing the view of a narrow driveway.

I never used to see businesses hijacking handicapped spots, but over
the past few months it’s become quite commonplace in the San Diego
area.  Is this a new trend, or did I just never notice what
inconsiderate jackasses people are?

Dave

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24 Responses to “Is Handicapped Parking also Commercial Parking?”

  1. admin says:

    In article <1129401122.113616.72…@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,

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    Dave <davidpho…@gmail.com> wrote:
    >http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8586/handi11ei.jpg

    >http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/174/handi22rw.jpg

    >DEL MAR, CA – Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he
    >didn’t feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was
    >obstructing the view of a narrow driveway.

    >I never used to see businesses hijacking handicapped spots, but over
    >the past few months it’s become quite commonplace in the San Diego
    >area.  Is this a new trend, or did I just never notice what
    >inconsiderate jackasses people are?

    >Dave

    I’ve seen it for a number of years.. It’s the folks for whom logical
    thinking is a pipe dream..

    If you feel like it, call the police.. the striped area is considered part
    of the handicapped space, and carries the same penalties (currently
    about $300 in Palo Alto, your rate may vary depending on how greedy the
    county gets with admin fees, etc..)

    I suspect you could do the same if the space is blocked with boxes, or
    other store crap, unless they have additional spaces temporarly designated.


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  2. admin says:

    On 15 Oct 2005 11:32:02 -0700, "Dave" <davidpho…@gmail.com> wrote:

    >DEL MAR, CA – Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he
    >didn’t feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was
    >obstructing the view of a narrow driveway.

    People who are dropping somerthing off or picking something up seem to
    feel they have the right to double park, park in the driveway, park on
    the sidewalk – basically park wherever they want. From the UPS truck
    driver to the guy in the F150 who’s delivering pizzas, these people
    feel they are "special" and are entitled to block everybody else for
    the sake of their own convenience.

  3. admin says:

    Dave wrote:
    > http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8586/handi11ei.jpg

    > http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/174/handi22rw.jpg

    > DEL MAR, CA – Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he
    > didn’t feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was
    > obstructing the view of a narrow driveway.

    > I never used to see businesses hijacking handicapped spots, but over
    > the past few months it’s become quite commonplace in the San Diego
    > area.  Is this a new trend, or did I just never notice what
    > inconsiderate jackasses people are?

    > Dave

    A lot of us don’t believe in special treatment for handicapped people.
    More discrimination.

  4. admin says:

    Scott en Aztlán wrote:
    > On 15 Oct 2005 11:32:02 -0700, "Dave" <davidpho…@gmail.com> wrote:

    > >DEL MAR, CA – Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he
    > >didn’t feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was
    > >obstructing the view of a narrow driveway.

    > People who are dropping somerthing off or picking something up seem to
    > feel they have the right to double park, park in the driveway, park on
    > the sidewalk – basically park wherever they want. From the UPS truck
    > driver to the guy in the F150 who’s delivering pizzas, these people
    > feel they are "special" and are entitled to block everybody else for
    > the sake of their own convenience.

    And yet this guy was there when I got there, and still there when I
    left.  And I had time to legally park, go figure…

    Dave

  5. admin says:

    tec…@tantivy.tantivy.net (Bob Vaughan) wrote:

    >I suspect you could do the same if the space is blocked with boxes, or
    >other store crap, unless they have additional spaces temporarly designated.

    There was a Smart & Final near me that used to always use the striped
    area for putting pallets of bottled water and bulk merchandise.  

    The manager of the store was a jerk when I asked him about it.  So I
    sent a couple pictures to the home office.  Since then they’ve been
    clear.  

  6. admin says:

    Laura Bush murdered her boy friend:

    > A lot of us don’t believe in special treatment for handicapped people.
    > More discrimination.

    Only an asswipe like you would say something like this, you pedophile
    faggot.

  7. admin says:

    On 16 Oct 2005 09:48:49 -0700, "Dave" <davidpho…@gmail.com> wrote:

    >> >DEL MAR, CA – Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he
    >> >didn’t feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was
    >> >obstructing the view of a narrow driveway.

    >> People who are dropping somerthing off or picking something up seem to
    >> feel they have the right to double park, park in the driveway, park on
    >> the sidewalk – basically park wherever they want. From the UPS truck
    >> driver to the guy in the F150 who’s delivering pizzas, these people
    >> feel they are "special" and are entitled to block everybody else for
    >> the sake of their own convenience.

    >And yet this guy was there when I got there, and still there when I
    >left.  And I had time to legally park, go figure…

    That makes no difference to these IBJAMs. A legal parking spot could
    be 5 feet away, but they’ll never use it – after all, that’s 5 extra
    feet they would have to walk.

    BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I’ll Be
    Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal
    brevity is the equivalent of diplomatic licence plates, allowing them
    to park wherever they want as long as their vehicle is blocking
    traffic for  "just a minute."

  8. admin says:

    Scott en Aztlán <scottenazt…@yahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in
    news:50t9l1tcanl22pj6tqc6j5i27d69t9ruqg@4ax.com:

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    > On 16 Oct 2005 09:48:49 -0700, "Dave" <davidpho…@gmail.com> wrote:

    >>> >DEL MAR, CA – Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he
    >>> >didn’t feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was
    >>> >obstructing the view of a narrow driveway.

    >>> People who are dropping somerthing off or picking something up seem
    to
    >>> feel they have the right to double park, park in the driveway, park
    on
    >>> the sidewalk – basically park wherever they want. From the UPS truck
    >>> driver to the guy in the F150 who’s delivering pizzas, these people
    >>> feel they are "special" and are entitled to block everybody else for
    >>> the sake of their own convenience.

    >>And yet this guy was there when I got there, and still there when I
    >>left.  And I had time to legally park, go figure…

    > That makes no difference to these IBJAMs. A legal parking spot could
    > be 5 feet away, but they’ll never use it – after all, that’s 5 extra
    > feet they would have to walk.

    > BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I’ll Be
    > Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal
    > brevity is the equivalent of diplomatic licence plates, allowing them
    > to park wherever they want as long as their vehicle is blocking
    > traffic for  "just a minute."

    The worst seem to be around hospital entrances. The are signs all over
    that you can only load and unload passengers, yet, there are those that
    park and leave their vehicle right there. When I come across them, I try
    to manuver so my wheel chair lift will block their leaving but allow
    other traffic to pass.

    Doug

  9. admin says:

    Scott en Aztlán wrote:
    > On 15 Oct 2005 11:32:02 -0700, "Dave" <davidpho…@gmail.com> wrote:

    > >DEL MAR, CA – Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he
    > >didn’t feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was
    > >obstructing the view of a narrow driveway.

    > People who are dropping somerthing off or picking something up seem to
    > feel they have the right to double park, park in the driveway, park on
    > the sidewalk – basically park wherever they want. From the UPS truck
    > driver to the guy in the F150 who’s delivering pizzas, these people
    > feel they are "special" and are entitled to block everybody else for
    > the sake of their own convenience.

    I was in San Francisco yesterday, and I parked on the sidewalk.

  10. admin says:

    On 22 Oct 2005 13:25:41 -0700, "redleg" <redleg…@comcast.net> wrote:

    >I was in San Francisco yesterday, and I parked on the sidewalk.

    That seems to be SOP in SF.

  11. admin says:

    In article <1130012741.110468.240…@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,

    redleg wrote:
    > I was in San Francisco yesterday, and I parked on the sidewalk.

    All things considered that seems only fair.

    I was in downtown San Francisco a few years ago and noticed that the
    pedestrians like to park themselves in the middle of intersections
    with no intention of moving.  Imagine you’re at a red light and several
    pedestrians are standing there in the crosswalk in front of you holding
    a conversation.  The light turns green and they just continue standing
    there holding their conversation totally oblivious to the traffic jam
    they’re causing.  You gently beep your horn and they ignore you.  You
    BEEP your horn and they just give you as nasty look.  I saw a lot of
    that sort of behavior in downtown San Francisco.  I also saw a lot of
    pedestrians crossing streets against the lights without even glancing
    around first to see if any traffic was headed their way.  I wonder how
    many dumbass pedestrians are killed in traffic collisions each year
    in downtown San Francisco.

    - Dan

  12. admin says:

    Dave wrote:
    > http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8586/handi11ei.jpg

    > http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/174/handi22rw.jpg

    > DEL MAR, CA – Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he
    > didn’t feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was
    > obstructing the view of a narrow driveway.

    > I never used to see businesses hijacking handicapped spots, but over
    > the past few months it’s become quite commonplace in the San Diego
    > area.  Is this a new trend, or did I just never notice what
    > inconsiderate jackasses people are?

    This seems to vary from one local jurisdiction to the next.  In
    San Francisco I’ve seen delivery trucks double-park on Polk St.
    (only one lane each way) during afternoon rush and cops go right
    by without ticketing them.

    That’s when I wish I had an anti-tank gun under the hood.

  13. admin says:

    Scott en Aztlán wrote:
    > BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I’ll Be
    > Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal
    > brevity is the equivalent of diplomatic licence plates, allowing them
    > to park wherever they want as long as their vehicle is blocking
    > traffic for  "just a minute."

    For what it’s worth, in some places I have often felt the need to use
    the IBJAM excuse to park in a fire-hydrant spot.  OTOH, it would be my
    problem if a fire happened – I’ve talked to fire fighters and they will
    take an axe and run the hose through your car.

    But a fire hydrant spot doesn’t block people any other time.  And the
    delivery truck people will park in the lane rather than use one.  Go
    figure.

  14. admin says:

    On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:04:50 -0700, John David Galt

    <j…@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote:
    >Scott en Aztlán wrote:
    >> BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I’ll Be
    >> Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal
    >> brevity is the equivalent of diplomatic licence plates, allowing them
    >> to park wherever they want as long as their vehicle is blocking
    >> traffic for  "just a minute."

    >For what it’s worth, in some places I have often felt the need to use
    >the IBJAM excuse to park in a fire-hydrant spot.  OTOH, it would be my
    >problem if a fire happened – I’ve talked to fire fighters and they will
    >take an axe and run the hose through your car.

    >But a fire hydrant spot doesn’t block people any other time.  

    Yeah, so I don’t object to that as much, although you could still park
    in such a way that they couldn’t hook the hose up to the hydrant (e.g.
    your car was too close to it).

    On Sunday I was sitting at a table in a small food court when an IBJAM
    in a Lexus pulled up to the curb, let his girlfriend out, and then sat
    there idling his engine despite the availability of a perfectly good
    parking space less than 10 feet away. Baskin Robbins had a long line,
    so he sat there idling for several minutes – long enough for two other
    drivers parked nearby to get into their vehicles and leave (in fact,
    Mr. IBJAM had to move his car to give them room to back out of their
    parking spaces). So now there are THREE open parking spaces nearby and
    Mr. IBJAM still sits there, wasting gas and blocking traffic.

  15. admin says:

    In article <djkht3$35…@blue.rahul.net>,
    John David Galt  <j…@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote:

    >But a fire hydrant spot doesn’t block people any other time.  And the
    >delivery truck people will park in the lane rather than use one.  Go
    >figure.

    It’s a smaller ticket.  By the same token, better to drive up on the
    sidewalk right in front of the entrance than use a handicapped spot.


      There’s no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
      result in a fully-depreciated one.

  16. admin says:

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    Scott en Aztlán wrote:
    > On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:04:50 -0700, John David Galt
    > <j…@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote:
    >>Scott en Aztlán wrote:

    >>>BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I’ll Be
    >>>Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal
    >>>brevity is the equivalent of diplomatic licence plates, allowing them
    >>>to park wherever they want as long as their vehicle is blocking
    >>>traffic for  "just a minute."

    >>For what it’s worth, in some places I have often felt the need to use
    >>the IBJAM excuse to park in a fire-hydrant spot.  OTOH, it would be my
    >>problem if a fire happened – I’ve talked to fire fighters and they will
    >>take an axe and run the hose through your car.

    >>But a fire hydrant spot doesn’t block people any other time.  

    > Yeah, so I don’t object to that as much, although you could still park
    > in such a way that they couldn’t hook the hose up to the hydrant (e.g.
    > your car was too close to it).

    > On Sunday I was sitting at a table in a small food court when an IBJAM
    > in a Lexus pulled up to the curb, let his girlfriend out, and then sat
    > there idling his engine despite the availability of a perfectly good
    > parking space less than 10 feet away. Baskin Robbins had a long line,
    > so he sat there idling for several minutes – long enough for two other
    > drivers parked nearby to get into their vehicles and leave (in fact,
    > Mr. IBJAM had to move his car to give them room to back out of their
    > parking spaces). So now there are THREE open parking spaces nearby and
    > Mr. IBJAM still sits there, wasting gas and blocking traffic.

    If he’d parked and turned off the engine his AC wouldn’t work, and as long as he
    wasn’t going to turn off the engine he might as well stay right where he was.
    Consider the possibility of investing in a fireman costume, an axe and 50 feet
    of hose…

    [For entertainment purposes only, not intended as instructions, do not taunt
    Happy Fun Ball]


    Cheers,
    Bev
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    SAVE GAS, FART IN A JAR

  17. admin says:

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    The Real Bev wrote:
    > Scott en Aztlán wrote:
    > > On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:04:50 -0700, John David Galt
    > > <j…@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote:
    > >>Scott en Aztlán wrote:

    > >>>BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I’ll Be
    > >>>Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal
    > >>>brevity is the equivalent of diplomatic licence plates, allowing them
    > >>>to park wherever they want as long as their vehicle is blocking
    > >>>traffic for  "just a minute."

    > >>For what it’s worth, in some places I have often felt the need to use
    > >>the IBJAM excuse to park in a fire-hydrant spot.  OTOH, it would be my
    > >>problem if a fire happened – I’ve talked to fire fighters and they will
    > >>take an axe and run the hose through your car.

    > >>But a fire hydrant spot doesn’t block people any other time.

    > > Yeah, so I don’t object to that as much, although you could still park
    > > in such a way that they couldn’t hook the hose up to the hydrant (e.g.
    > > your car was too close to it).

    > > On Sunday I was sitting at a table in a small food court when an IBJAM
    > > in a Lexus pulled up to the curb, let his girlfriend out, and then sat
    > > there idling his engine despite the availability of a perfectly good
    > > parking space less than 10 feet away. Baskin Robbins had a long line,
    > > so he sat there idling for several minutes – long enough for two other
    > > drivers parked nearby to get into their vehicles and leave (in fact,
    > > Mr. IBJAM had to move his car to give them room to back out of their
    > > parking spaces). So now there are THREE open parking spaces nearby and
    > > Mr. IBJAM still sits there, wasting gas and blocking traffic.

    > If he’d parked and turned off the engine his AC wouldn’t work, and as long as he
    > wasn’t going to turn off the engine he might as well stay right where he was.
    > Consider the possibility of investing in a fireman costume, an axe and 50 feet
    > of hose…

    > [For entertainment purposes only, not intended as instructions, do not taunt
    > Happy Fun Ball]

    Reminds me of my Happy Fun Car, AKA Dave’s First Car, aka a Mustang
    that would turn off (aka stall out) if you took your foot off the gas.
    The AC worked though, as long as your food was on the gas.

    Dave

  18. admin says:

    On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:36:14 -0700, The Real Bev

    <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:
    >> On Sunday I was sitting at a table in a small food court when an IBJAM
    >> in a Lexus pulled up to the curb, let his girlfriend out, and then sat
    >> there idling his engine despite the availability of a perfectly good
    >> parking space less than 10 feet away.

    >If he’d parked and turned off the engine his AC wouldn’t work

    His windows were open. Of course, that’s no proof that he wasn’t
    running his A/C…

    >and as long as he
    >wasn’t going to turn off the engine he might as well stay right where he was.

    And block traffic?

    >Consider the possibility of investing in a fireman costume, an axe and 50 feet
    >of hose…

    I have all that stuff, but unfortunately it was sitting in the closet
    at home when I needed it.

    :)

  19. admin says:

    On 27 Oct 2005 22:43:06 -0700, "Dave" <davidpho…@gmail.com> wrote:

    >> [For entertainment purposes only, not intended as instructions, do not taunt
    >> Happy Fun Ball]

    >Reminds me of my Happy Fun Car, AKA Dave’s First Car, aka a Mustang
    >that would turn off (aka stall out) if you took your foot off the gas.

    Reminds me of the "extra life" powerups in DOOM. They were little
    speheres that you picked up to get an extra life in the game; we
    called them Happy Fun Balls.

  20. admin says:

    John David Galt <j…@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote in news:djkht3$35a
    $…@blue.rahul.net:

    > Scott en Aztlán wrote:
    >> BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I’ll Be
    >> Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal
    >> brevity is the equivalent of diplomatic licence plates, allowing them
    >> to park wherever they want as long as their vehicle is blocking
    >> traffic for  "just a minute."

    > For what it’s worth, in some places I have often felt the need to use
    > the IBJAM excuse to park in a fire-hydrant spot.  OTOH, it would be my
    > problem if a fire happened – I’ve talked to fire fighters and they will
    > take an axe and run the hose through your car.

    > But a fire hydrant spot doesn’t block people any other time.  And the
    > delivery truck people will park in the lane rather than use one.  Go
    > figure.

    When I was a kid in Philly, I saw what happened to a car that parked next
    to the hydrant. It was February and the fireman didn’t quite get a good
    seal when hooking up. It was spraying about 2 gal/minute on the car. By
    the time they were done fighting the fire, the car was encased in a foot
    thick block of ice. Hope it was a nice car. BTW, this was in Chestnut
    Hill along Germantown Ave.

    Doug

  21. admin says:

    Scott en Chicago wrote:
    > On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:36:14 -0700, The Real Bev
    > <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:

    >>>On Sunday I was sitting at a table in a small food court when an IBJAM
    >>>in a Lexus pulled up to the curb, let his girlfriend out, and then sat
    >>>there idling his engine despite the availability of a perfectly good
    >>>parking space less than 10 feet away.

    >>If he’d parked and turned off the engine his AC wouldn’t work

    > His windows were open. Of course, that’s no proof that he wasn’t
    > running his A/C…

    People run their heaters or AC in top-down convertibles.  Go figure.

    >>and as long as he
    >>wasn’t going to turn off the engine he might as well stay right where he was.

    > And block traffic?

    Nobody said he wasn’t a rude son of a bitch.

    >>Consider the possibility of investing in a fireman costume, an axe and 50 feet
    >>of hose…

    > I have all that stuff, but unfortunately it was sitting in the closet
    > at home when I needed it.
    > :)

    A woman would have been prepared.  Why do you think our handbags are so heavy?


    Cheers, Bev
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    "I’m not proud.  We really haven’t done everything we could to protect
      our customers.  Our products just aren’t engineered for security."
       –Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

  22. admin says:

    Dave wrote:
    > The Real Bev wrote:
    >>If he’d parked and turned off the engine his AC wouldn’t work, and as long as he
    >>wasn’t going to turn off the engine he might as well stay right where he was.
    >>Consider the possibility of investing in a fireman costume, an axe and 50 feet
    >>of hose…

    >>[For entertainment purposes only, not intended as instructions, do not taunt
    >>Happy Fun Ball]

    > Reminds me of my Happy Fun Car, AKA Dave’s First Car, aka a Mustang
    > that would turn off (aka stall out) if you took your foot off the gas.
    > The AC worked though, as long as your food was on the gas.

    Everybody had a car that you had to keep feeding gas to or it would stall.
    Setting the idle higher just made the engine race.  Lesser of two evils.


    Cheers, Bev
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    "I’m not proud.  We really haven’t done everything we could to protect
      our customers.  Our products just aren’t engineered for security."
       –Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

  23. admin says:

    Scott en Chicago wrote:
    > On 27 Oct 2005 22:43:06 -0700, "Dave" <davidpho…@gmail.com> wrote:

    >>>[For entertainment purposes only, not intended as instructions, do not taunt
    >>>Happy Fun Ball]

    >>Reminds me of my Happy Fun Car, AKA Dave’s First Car, aka a Mustang
    >>that would turn off (aka stall out) if you took your foot off the gas.

    > Reminds me of the "extra life" powerups in DOOM. They were little
    > speheres that you picked up to get an extra life in the game; we
    > called them Happy Fun Balls.

    A test for the younguns among us — who invented the Happy Fun Ball?


    Cheers, Bev
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    "I’m not proud.  We really haven’t done everything we could to protect
      our customers.  Our products just aren’t engineered for security."
       –Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

  24. admin says:

    In article <18y8f.22248$RG4.7…@fe05.lga>,
    The Real Bev  <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:

    >Scott en Chicago wrote:
    >> On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:36:14 -0700, The Real Bev
    >> <bash…@myrealbox.com> wrote:

    >>>>On Sunday I was sitting at a table in a small food court when an IBJAM
    >>>>in a Lexus pulled up to the curb, let his girlfriend out, and then sat
    >>>>there idling his engine despite the availability of a perfectly good
    >>>>parking space less than 10 feet away.

    >>>If he’d parked and turned off the engine his AC wouldn’t work

    >> His windows were open. Of course, that’s no proof that he wasn’t
    >> running his A/C…

    >People run their heaters or AC in top-down convertibles.  Go figure.

    Heats or cools the driver’s face, feet, and/or hands while keeping the
    convertible experience intact.

      There’s no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
      result in a fully-depreciated one.