Driving automobiles





importing car older than 25 years to usa

I want to fly to England and buy one of the good condition citroen 2cvs
and have it shipped over to the usa
it will be over 25 years old.  does anyone know how to do this?  If you
do please tell me step by step, thanks

posted by admin in Uncategorized and have Comments (25)






25 Responses to “importing car older than 25 years to usa”

  1. admin says:

    On Sun, 17 Sep 2005 lipsc…@hotmail.com wrote:

    > I want to fly to England and buy one of the good condition citroen 2cvs
    > and have it shipped over to the usa it will be over 25 years old.  does
    > anyone know how to do this?  If you do please tell me step by step,

    Cars over 21 years old are EPA-exempt (you declare them as over 21 years
    old on your EPA 3520-1 form, and supply proof in the form of a vehicle
    registration/title document)

    Cars over 25 years old are DOT-exempt (you declare them as over 25 years
    old on your DOT HS-7 form, and supply proof in the form of a vehicle
    registration/title document)

    You may be charged importation duties and taxes; you may be subject to the
    normal hassle that comes with importing large items from overseas as far
    as Customs wanting to make sure there are no hidden drugs, other
    contraband or agricultural pests, etc.

    If you wind up with a RHD vehicle, or even a LHD vehicle that’s been
    registered and driven in a LH-traffic country such as the UK, regardless
    of the car’s safety compliance exemption at the border, do install
    headlamp units for the correct side of the road — they are different!

    DS

  2. admin says:

    Scott en Aztlán <scottenazt…@yahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in
    news:5k3pi1lfqumdvh64clgag4rh6nhnjdbg1f@4ax.com:

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > TV advertisements for automobiles always depict an idealized fantasy
    > world. For example, the car being hawked is always either driving on a
    > completely empty road or street, or, if the street is not empty, the
    > other cars are all standing still as if frozen in time, etc. etc. I
    > saw one today, however, that really pushes the envelope of
    > believability.

    > A pedalcyclist is shown riding along a twisty two-lane mountain road
    > at night. Suddenly, his headlight winks out. Just then, you see
    > headlights approaching from behind; just as you think the oncoming car
    > is going to cream the pedalcyclist, it slows down and uses its
    > swiveling  headlights to light the pedalcyclist’s way until he gets
    > back into town.

    > Personally, I find the one where the world outside the car is all in
    > sepia tones to be more realistic. ;)

    I just saw this during the ND game and was going to post it to RAD. Worst
    VW ad ever (I think). It’s for a VW car right?

    The worst part is the driver giving a nod to the biker after they get to
    the bottom of the hill. How fucking lame.

  3. admin says:

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    <n> wrote in message news:11ip5b24joqhv0c@corp.supernews.com…
    > Scott en Aztlán <scottenazt…@yahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in
    > news:5k3pi1lfqumdvh64clgag4rh6nhnjdbg1f@4ax.com:

    >> TV advertisements for automobiles always depict an idealized fantasy
    >> world. For example, the car being hawked is always either driving on a
    >> completely empty road or street, or, if the street is not empty, the
    >> other cars are all standing still as if frozen in time, etc. etc. I
    >> saw one today, however, that really pushes the envelope of
    >> believability.

    >> A pedalcyclist is shown riding along a twisty two-lane mountain road
    >> at night. Suddenly, his headlight winks out. Just then, you see
    >> headlights approaching from behind; just as you think the oncoming car
    >> is going to cream the pedalcyclist, it slows down and uses its
    >> swiveling  headlights to light the pedalcyclist’s way until he gets
    >> back into town.

    >> Personally, I find the one where the world outside the car is all in
    >> sepia tones to be more realistic. ;)

    > I just saw this during the ND game and was going to post it to RAD. Worst
    > VW ad ever (I think). It’s for a VW car right?

    > The worst part is the driver giving a nod to the biker after they get to
    > the bottom of the hill. How fucking lame.

    Ah, but it’s *artistic license.*  The only point is to get us to stop
    changing channels and look at the car.  And, hopefully, remember the
    *teaching point.* which apparently we did because we remember why (because
    of swiveling headlights) we should all buy this car.

    Anyway, the movie "Vertigo" had the longest suspension of belief ever
    filmed.  In the movie the character played by Kim Novak is followed all over
    San Francisco by the character played by Jimmie Stewart.  Filmed in 1958, it
    shows a beautiful, neat, and attractive city (which I knew because I was
    there.)  Now the city is overrun by homeless bums, and the scenes could not
    now be filmed.  But anyway, they meander all over the city, and whenever she
    stops, he stops, and here is the suspension of belief – they always have a
    parking space, and right in front of where they are going.

  4. admin says:

    On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:48:01 -0700, "Billzz"

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    <billzzstr…@starband.net> wrote:
    ><n> wrote in message news:11ip5b24joqhv0c@corp.supernews.com…
    >> Scott en Aztlán <scottenazt…@yahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in
    >> news:5k3pi1lfqumdvh64clgag4rh6nhnjdbg1f@4ax.com:

    >>> TV advertisements for automobiles always depict an idealized fantasy
    >>> world. For example, the car being hawked is always either driving on a
    >>> completely empty road or street, or, if the street is not empty, the
    >>> other cars are all standing still as if frozen in time, etc. etc. I
    >>> saw one today, however, that really pushes the envelope of
    >>> believability.

    >>> A pedalcyclist is shown riding along a twisty two-lane mountain road
    >>> at night. Suddenly, his headlight winks out. Just then, you see
    >>> headlights approaching from behind; just as you think the oncoming car
    >>> is going to cream the pedalcyclist, it slows down and uses its
    >>> swiveling  headlights to light the pedalcyclist’s way until he gets
    >>> back into town.

    >>> Personally, I find the one where the world outside the car is all in
    >>> sepia tones to be more realistic. ;)

    >> I just saw this during the ND game and was going to post it to RAD. Worst
    >> VW ad ever (I think). It’s for a VW car right?

    >> The worst part is the driver giving a nod to the biker after they get to
    >> the bottom of the hill. How fucking lame.

    >Ah, but it’s *artistic license.*  The only point is to get us to stop
    >changing channels and look at the car.  And, hopefully, remember the
    >*teaching point.* which apparently we did because we remember why (because
    >of swiveling headlights) we should all buy this car.

    Except neither of us remembers WHICH kind of car the ad was for!

    ROFLMAO!!!!

    >Anyway, the movie "Vertigo" had the longest suspension of belief ever
    >filmed.  In the movie the character played by Kim Novak is followed all over
    >San Francisco by the character played by Jimmie Stewart.  Filmed in 1958, it
    >shows a beautiful, neat, and attractive city (which I knew because I was
    >there.)  Now the city is overrun by homeless bums, and the scenes could not
    >now be filmed.  But anyway, they meander all over the city, and whenever she
    >stops, he stops, and here is the suspension of belief – they always have a
    >parking space, and right in front of where they are going.

    You’re right – that IS more unbelievable than, say, a bunch of birds
    suddenly attacking a town full of human beings.

  5. admin says:

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    Scott en Aztlán wrote:
    > TV advertisements for automobiles always depict an idealized fantasy
    > world. For example, the car being hawked is always either driving on a
    > completely empty road or street, or, if the street is not empty, the
    > other cars are all standing still as if frozen in time, etc. etc. I
    > saw one today, however, that really pushes the envelope of
    > believability.

    > A pedalcyclist is shown riding along a twisty two-lane mountain road
    > at night. Suddenly, his headlight winks out. Just then, you see
    > headlights approaching from behind; just as you think the oncoming car
    > is going to cream the pedalcyclist, it slows down and uses its
    > swiveling  headlights to light the pedalcyclist’s way until he gets
    > back into town.

    > Personally, I find the one where the world outside the car is all in
    > sepia tones to be more realistic. ;)

    It does sound stupid but at least it’s better than all those
    commercials that glamorize the deadly crime of speeding.

  6. admin says:

    In article <498c5$432c9d20$9440b19b$22…@STARBAND.NET>, Billzz wrote:
    > Anyway, the movie "Vertigo" had the longest suspension of belief ever
    > filmed.  In the movie the character played by Kim Novak is followed all over
    > San Francisco by the character played by Jimmie Stewart.  Filmed in 1958, it
    > shows a beautiful, neat, and attractive city (which I knew because I was
    > there.)  Now the city is overrun by homeless bums, and the scenes could not
    > now be filmed.  But anyway, they meander all over the city, and whenever she
    > stops, he stops, and here is the suspension of belief – they always have a
    > parking space, and right in front of where they are going.

    San Francisco appears gritter in Bullitt but that charger lost something
    like 8 hub caps! :)

  7. admin says:

    On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 01:14:44 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVET…@yahoo.com

    (Brent P) wrote:
    >San Francisco appears gritter in Bullitt but that charger lost something
    >like 8 hub caps! :)

    It looks REALLY gritty in the Dirty Harry movies. ;)

  8. admin says:

    On 17 Sep 2005 20:13:15 -0700, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"

    <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >It does sound stupid but at least it’s better than all those
    >commercials that glamorize the deadly crime of speeding.

    Which ones are those?

  9. admin says:

    "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:1127013195.699344.154970@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

    > It does sound stupid but at least it’s better than all those
    > commercials that glamorize the deadly crime of speeding.

    LOL…like this?

    http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/350/350z_commercial1.mov

  10. admin says:

    > A pedalcyclist is shown riding along a twisty two-lane mountain road
    > at night. Suddenly, his headlight winks out. Just then, you see
    > headlights approaching from behind; just as you think the oncoming car
    > is going to cream the pedalcyclist, it slows down and uses its
    > swiveling  headlights to light the pedalcyclist’s way until he gets
    > back into town.

    Seems accurate to me.  A bicyclist riding on a road he has no business
    on, blocking traffic!

  11. admin says:

    In article <dn0ri1p4l2u7lq1mdph1uvvlv9nddbc…@4ax.com>, Scott en Aztlán wrote:
    > On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 01:14:44 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVET…@yahoo.com
    > (Brent P) wrote:

    >>San Francisco appears gritter in Bullitt but that charger lost something
    >>like 8 hub caps! :)

    > It looks REALLY gritty in the Dirty Harry movies. ;)

    But I cannot thing of anything unrealistic regarding automotive things
    off hand in ‘Dirty Harry’.

  12. admin says:

    In article <1127085104.119350.9…@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Larry Bud wrote:
    > Seems accurate to me.  A bicyclist riding on a road he has no business
    > on, blocking traffic!

    The troll meter is resting on the peg.

  13. admin says:

    Brent P wrote:
    > In article <1127085104.119350.9…@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Larry Bud wrote:
    > > Seems accurate to me.  A bicyclist riding on a road he has no business
    > > on, blocking traffic!

    > The troll meter is resting on the peg.

    You guys sure have a funny definition of a troll.  But I suspect it’s
    just a way to deflect the truth of my statement.

  14. admin says:

    Billzz wrote:
    > Anyway, the movie "Vertigo" had the longest suspension of belief ever
    > filmed.  In the movie the character played by Kim Novak is followed all over
    > San Francisco by the character played by Jimmie Stewart.  Filmed in 1958, it
    > shows a beautiful, neat, and attractive city (which I knew because I was
    > there.)  Now the city is overrun by homeless bums, and the scenes could not
    > now be filmed.  But anyway, they meander all over the city, and whenever she
    > stops, he stops, and here is the suspension of belief – they always have a
    > parking space, and right in front of where they are going.

    Totally off topic, but you might enjoy Vertigo Then & Now (
    http://www.basichip.com/vertigo/main.htm ).  It shows a comparison of
    SF 1958 and SF today, re-creating many still frames from the movie.

    It’s funny how many Starbucks signs would be in that movie now.

    Dave

  15. admin says:

    On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:59:04 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVET…@yahoo.com

    (Brent P) wrote:
    >>>San Francisco appears gritter in Bullitt but that charger lost something
    >>>like 8 hub caps! :)

    >> It looks REALLY gritty in the Dirty Harry movies. ;)

    >But I cannot thing of anything unrealistic regarding automotive things
    >off hand in ‘Dirty Harry’.

    How about all the cars racing up and down the hills at 90 MPH without
    T-boning anybody? ;)

  16. admin says:

    "Dave" <davidpho…@gmail.com> wrote in message

    news:1127147088.846318.109050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com…

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > Billzz wrote:

    >> Anyway, the movie "Vertigo" had the longest suspension of belief ever
    >> filmed.  In the movie the character played by Kim Novak is followed all
    >> over
    >> San Francisco by the character played by Jimmie Stewart.  Filmed in 1958,
    >> it
    >> shows a beautiful, neat, and attractive city (which I knew because I was
    >> there.)  Now the city is overrun by homeless bums, and the scenes could
    >> not
    >> now be filmed.  But anyway, they meander all over the city, and whenever
    >> she
    >> stops, he stops, and here is the suspension of belief – they always have
    >> a
    >> parking space, and right in front of where they are going.

    > Totally off topic, but you might enjoy Vertigo Then & Now (
    > http://www.basichip.com/vertigo/main.htm ).  It shows a comparison of
    > SF 1958 and SF today, re-creating many still frames from the movie.

    > It’s funny how many Starbucks signs would be in that movie now.

    > Dave

    Thanks.  I really enjoyed the site.
    It’s not off-topic as it shows autos.driving!

  17. admin says:

    On 19 Sep 2005 04:42:47 -0700, "Larry Bud" <larrybud2…@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    >Brent P wrote:
    >> In article <1127085104.119350.9…@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Larry Bud wrote:
    >> > Seems accurate to me.  A bicyclist riding on a road he has no business
    >> > on, blocking traffic!

    >> The troll meter is resting on the peg.

    >You guys sure have a funny definition of a troll.  But I suspect it’s
    >just a way to deflect the truth of my statement.

    You trolls sure are incapable of understanding your true nature.  But
    I suspect it is just another attempt at a troll.

  18. admin says:

    Larry Bud wrote:
    > Brent P wrote:
    > > In article <1127085104.119350.9…@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Larry Bud wrote:
    > > > Seems accurate to me.  A bicyclist riding on a road he has no business
    > > > on, blocking traffic!

    > > The troll meter is resting on the peg.

    > You guys sure have a funny definition of a troll.

    No, it’s the regular one everyone else recognizes, Troll.  Go back
    under your bicycle-free bridge, asshat.

    E.P.

  19. admin says:

    Larry Bud wrote:
    > Seems accurate to me.  A bicyclist riding on a road he has no business
    > on, blocking traffic!

    I recently started cycling again.  Part of my commute is on a two lane
    road that’s posted at 35 mph.  On the bike, I’m probably going 15 to 18
    mph or so (slight grade).  Every car that encounters me either partially
    or completely goes on the opposite side of the road to pass me.

    Today, I drove (I’m not feeling that well).  Just as a test, I decided
    to drive on that road at a speed of 20 mph just to see what would
    happen.  Lo and behold, not a single person would pass me and by the
    time I got to the traffic light, at least 6 cars were stuck behind me.
    I’ve never had that happen while I was on a bike.

  20. admin says:

    In article <dcjti1dm8lerovjgfku5gn6kl10e66m…@4ax.com>, Scott en Aztlán wrote:
    > On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:59:04 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVET…@yahoo.com
    > (Brent P) wrote:

    >>>>San Francisco appears gritter in Bullitt but that charger lost something
    >>>>like 8 hub caps! :)

    >>> It looks REALLY gritty in the Dirty Harry movies. ;)

    >>But I cannot thing of anything unrealistic regarding automotive things
    >>off hand in ‘Dirty Harry’.

    > How about all the cars racing up and down the hills at 90 MPH without
    > T-boning anybody? ;)

    There was the dead pool where they mocked the chase in bullitt with the
    remote controlled car…..

    but I don’t recall anything in dirty harry, the first movie.

  21. admin says:

    Larry Bud wrote:
    > Brent P wrote:

    >>In article <1127085104.119350.9…@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Larry Bud wrote:

    >>>Seems accurate to me.  A bicyclist riding on a road he has no business
    >>>on, blocking traffic!

    >>The troll meter is resting on the peg.

    > You guys sure have a funny definition of a troll.  But I suspect it’s
    > just a way to deflect the truth of my statement.

    Are you too clumsy or out of shape to ride a bike? Is that
    you’re so hostile to bicyclists?

  22. admin says:

    > >>>Seems accurate to me.  A bicyclist riding on a road he has no business
    > >>>on, blocking traffic!

    > >>The troll meter is resting on the peg.

    > > You guys sure have a funny definition of a troll.  But I suspect it’s
    > > just a way to deflect the truth of my statement.

    > Are you too clumsy or out of shape to ride a bike? Is that
    > you’re so hostile to bicyclists?

    Nope, I’m in great shape.  Work out 3 times a week.  But let’s get back
    to the subject:  Bicyclists that block traffic are no better than LLBs,
    and in fact, much worse, because getting tangled up with them will
    probably result in a death.  The worst part in my neck of the woods is
    that we’re taxed to death and build freakin bike paths everywhere, and
    some morons still ride on a 2 lane road.  It should be as illegal for
    them to ride on my road and it would be for me to drive on their bike
    path.

  23. admin says:

    Larry Bud wrote:
    > > >>>Seems accurate to me.  A bicyclist riding on a road he has no business
    > > >>>on, blocking traffic!

    > > >>The troll meter is resting on the peg.

    > > > You guys sure have a funny definition of a troll.  But I suspect it’s
    > > > just a way to deflect the truth of my statement.

    > > Are you too clumsy or out of shape to ride a bike? Is that
    > > you’re so hostile to bicyclists?

    > Nope, I’m in great shape.  Work out 3 times a week.  But let’s get back
    > to the subject:  Bicyclists that block traffic are no better than LLBs

    Wrong.  Left-lane blocking in a KRETP situation is illegal.

    Riding a bicycle on a roadway is not illegal (assuming it is not a
    "bicycles excluded" sort of road.)

    In this state, I am legally required to pull off if I hold up five or
    more drivers.  I don’t know what your state requires.

    > and in fact, much worse, because getting tangled up with them will
    > probably result in a death.

    Getting "tangled up" with a bicycle rider implies the auto occupant is
    incompetent.

    > The worst part in my neck of the woods is
    > that we’re taxed to death and build freakin bike paths everywhere

    Except you’re not "taxed to death."  Your taxes, no matter where you
    are in the U.S. are lower than anywhere in the industrial world.  Just
    because you’re selfish and don’t want to pay them doesn’t mean they are
    the burden you claim.

    > and
    > some morons still ride on a 2 lane road.

    If it’s legal to ride there, then you are just a whiner.

    >  It should be as illegal for
    > them to ride on my road and it would be for me to drive on their bike
    > path.

    If the path were lined to keep traffic regular, and if all users were
    required to KRETP, and if the paths went everywhere the roads did
    without causing bike/car conflict, I could almost see your point.

    But, as an anti-bike troll, you don’t know shit from Shinola.

    E.P.

  24. admin says:

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    gcmschem…@gmail.com wrote:
    > Larry Bud wrote:
    > > > >>>Seems accurate to me.  A bicyclist riding on a road he has no business
    > > > >>>on, blocking traffic!

    > > > >>The troll meter is resting on the peg.

    > > > > You guys sure have a funny definition of a troll.  But I suspect it’s
    > > > > just a way to deflect the truth of my statement.

    > > > Are you too clumsy or out of shape to ride a bike? Is that
    > > > you’re so hostile to bicyclists?

    > > Nope, I’m in great shape.  Work out 3 times a week.  But let’s get back
    > > to the subject:  Bicyclists that block traffic are no better than LLBs

    > Wrong.  Left-lane blocking in a KRETP situation is illegal.

    So what?  There’s plenty of legal LLBing going on.  The participants in
    this forum (Rightly so) don’t make a distinction between legal and
    illegal LLBing.

    > Getting "tangled up" with a bicycle rider implies the auto occupant is
    > incompetent.

    Right, because all bicyclists are perfect, right.  Now "Fantasyland" is
    a apt subject line.

    > > The worst part in my neck of the woods is
    > > that we’re taxed to death and build freakin bike paths everywhere

    > Except you’re not "taxed to death."

    Of course I am.  I am taxed until I die.  And I’m sure if you have your
    way, continue to get taxed after I die.

    > Your taxes, no matter where you
    > are in the U.S. are lower than anywhere in the industrial world.

    Irrelevant.  Since when is the measure of standard for the United
    States the rest of the socialist world?

    > >  It should be as illegal for
    > > them to ride on my road and it would be for me to drive on their bike
    > > path.

    > If the path were lined to keep traffic regular, and if all users were
    > required to KRETP, and if the paths went everywhere the roads did
    > without causing bike/car conflict, I could almost see your point.

    The paths are totally separate from the road, a good 20 yards away.
    Glad to see you’re coming around.

  25. admin says:

    Arif Khokar wrote:
    > Larry Bud wrote:

    > > Seems accurate to me.  A bicyclist riding on a road he has no business
    > > on, blocking traffic!

    > I recently started cycling again.  Part of my commute is on a two lane
    > road that’s posted at 35 mph.  On the bike, I’m probably going 15 to 18
    > mph or so (slight grade).  Every car that encounters me either partially
    > or completely goes on the opposite side of the road to pass me.

    Exactly my point.  Every car crossed into oncoming traffic to pass you.
     If that’s not dangerous for both you and the driver, I don’t know what
    is.