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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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  Whoops....if you&#039;ve seen my article claiming less than 2.7 is improbable, &lt;br&gt; well I forgot to take one thing into account.... &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Aerodynamics. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;You can build cars so that they behave like plane wing, only in reverse. &lt;br&gt; So the downward force could be a heck of a lot more than 1g. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;:) &lt;br&gt; Mayan &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops&#8230;.if you&#8217;ve seen my article claiming less than 2.7 is improbable, <br /> well I forgot to take one thing into account&#8230;. <br /> 
<p>Aerodynamics.  </p>
<p>You can build cars so that they behave like plane wing, only in reverse. <br /> So the downward force could be a heck of a lot more than 1g.  </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.autosdrive.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <br /> Mayan </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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  Just as a matter of curiousity --- I think that the best acceleration &lt;br&gt; a wheeled vehicle can get is 1g (and that&#039;s assuming tires with a &lt;br&gt; coefficient of friction of 1). So, min time to get from 0-60 is 2.7 sec. &lt;br&gt; Are there any wheeled vehicles out there that claim a time lower than &lt;br&gt; that? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;:) &lt;br&gt; Mayan &lt;br&gt; P.S. The physics: &lt;br&gt; Maximum force exertable by wheels &lt;br&gt; F = u * m * g &lt;br&gt; Where: &lt;br&gt; u is coefficient of friction (&lt;= 1) &lt;br&gt; m is mass of car &lt;br&gt; g is gravitational acceleration &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Max acceleration of car &lt;br&gt; a = F/m &lt;br&gt; &#160; = u * g &lt;br&gt; &#160; = g (assuming u = 1) &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;t = v / a &lt;br&gt; &#160; = v / g &lt;br&gt; &#160; = 27 / 10 &#160; ( assuming 60 miles/hr = 27 m/sec, g = 10 m/sec^2) &lt;br&gt; &#160; = 2.7 &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Actually, 60 miles/hr = 26.8 m/s g = 9.8 m/s^2 ==&gt; t = 2.73 sec &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as a matter of curiousity &#8212; I think that the best acceleration <br /> a wheeled vehicle can get is 1g (and that&#8217;s assuming tires with a <br /> coefficient of friction of 1). So, min time to get from 0-60 is 2.7 sec. <br /> Are there any wheeled vehicles out there that claim a time lower than <br /> that? <br /> 
<p> <img src='http://www.autosdrive.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <br /> Mayan <br /> P.S. The physics: <br /> Maximum force exertable by wheels <br /> F = u * m * g <br /> Where: <br /> u is coefficient of friction (&lt;= 1) <br /> m is mass of car <br /> g is gravitational acceleration  </p>
<p>Max acceleration of car <br /> a = F/m <br /> &nbsp; = u * g <br /> &nbsp; = g (assuming u = 1)  </p>
<p>t = v / a <br /> &nbsp; = v / g <br /> &nbsp; = 27 / 10 &nbsp; ( assuming 60 miles/hr = 27 m/sec, g = 10 m/sec^2) <br /> &nbsp; = 2.7  </p>
<p>Actually, 60 miles/hr = 26.8 m/s g = 9.8 m/s^2 ==&gt; t = 2.73 sec </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;94...@bu.edu&gt; anton...@buitc.bu.edu (George Antoniou) writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;In article &lt;1992Aug25.055015.14...@leland.Stanford.EDU&gt; tedeb...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug24.171230.18...@ctp.com&gt; bp...@ctp.com (Bob Pitas) writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug17.164537.25...@usenet.ins.cwru.edu&gt; j...@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I wonder about this more often now that I have 0-60 times in the 3 &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;second range. &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;Commuting in a top-fuel dragster? &#160;What the hell car gets &#039;3 second range&#039; &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;0-60 times? &#160;Even if you drive around with slicks, I find it hard to believe &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;that you can get under 4 seconds... &#160;(I don&#039;t think most motorcycles can &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;hole-shot that fast!) &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; Dude my 600 CBR does 0-60 in 3 seconds... what planet do you live on??? &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;8^) &#160;Yeah. &#160;And my (slightly trick) GSX could easily break 3 seconds. &lt;br&gt; I wanna CBR1000... &#160;Hmm.. &#160;If the 600 does it in 3... &#160;Argh... &#160;&gt;8^) &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; j...@access.digex.com &#160;&#124; (Cage) 1991 323se &#160; &#160; ZCP-710 &#160; &#124; &#160; &#160; Comus Road &lt;br&gt; Merry Land (MD) U.S.A. &#124; (Bike) 1986 GSXR750 &#160; &#160;(sold) &#160; &#124; &#160; &#160; ClarksBURG &lt;br&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ &lt;br&gt; But of course, I have three eyes. &#160;I have clairvoyant paranoia. &#160;-King Missile &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;94&#8230;@bu.edu&gt; <a href="mailto:anton...@buitc.bu.edu">anton&#8230;@buitc.bu.edu</a> (George Antoniou) writes: <br /> &gt;In article &lt;1992Aug25.055015.14&#8230;@leland.Stanford.EDU&gt; <a href="mailto:tedeb...@leland.Stanford.EDU">tedeb&#8230;@leland.Stanford.EDU</a> (Theodore Chen) writes: <br /> &gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug24.171230.18&#8230;@ctp.com&gt; <a href="mailto:bp...@ctp.com">bp&#8230;@ctp.com</a> (Bob Pitas) writes: <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug17.164537.25&#8230;@usenet.ins.cwru.edu&gt; <a href="mailto:j...@po.CWRU.Edu">j&#8230;@po.CWRU.Edu</a> (John R. Daker) writes: <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I wonder about this more often now that I have 0-60 times in the 3 <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;second range. <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;Commuting in a top-fuel dragster? &nbsp;What the hell car gets &#8217;3 second range&#8217; <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;0-60 times? &nbsp;Even if you drive around with slicks, I find it hard to believe <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;that you can get under 4 seconds&#8230; &nbsp;(I don&#8217;t think most motorcycles can <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;hole-shot that fast!)  </p>
<p>&gt; Dude my 600 CBR does 0-60 in 3 seconds&#8230; what planet do you live on??? </p>
<p>8^) &nbsp;Yeah. &nbsp;And my (slightly trick) GSX could easily break 3 seconds. <br /> I wanna CBR1000&#8230; &nbsp;Hmm.. &nbsp;If the 600 does it in 3&#8230; &nbsp;Argh&#8230; &nbsp;&gt;8^)  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> <a href="mailto:j...@access.digex.com">j&#8230;@access.digex.com</a> &nbsp;| (Cage) 1991 323se &nbsp; &nbsp; ZCP-710 &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; Comus Road <br /> Merry Land (MD) U.S.A. | (Bike) 1986 GSXR750 &nbsp; &nbsp;(sold) &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; ClarksBURG <br /> &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; <br /> But of course, I have three eyes. &nbsp;I have clairvoyant paranoia. &nbsp;-King Missile </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug25.055015.14...@leland.Stanford.EDU&gt; &lt;br&gt; &gt;tedeb...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug24.171230.18...@ctp.com&gt; bp...@ctp.com (Bob Pitas)writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug17.164537.25...@usenet.ins.cwru.edu&gt; j...@po.CWRU.Edu &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;(John R. Daker) writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I wonder about this more often now that I have 0-60 times in the 3 &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;second range. &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;Commuting in a top-fuel dragster? &#160;What the hell car gets &#039;3 second range&#039; &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;0-60 times? &#160;Even if you drive around with slicks, I find it hard tobelieve &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;that you can get under 4 seconds... &#160;(I don&#039;t think most motorcycles can &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;hole-shot that fast!) &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; Dude my 600 CBR does 0-60 in 3 seconds... what planet do you live on??? &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Turbine Corvette (built by Andy Granatelli, 100% street legal): &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;0-60, 3.6 secs. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Admittedly not quite stock. &#160;Saw it in an old Motor Trend. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; --Andy &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;---------------------------------------------------- &lt;br&gt; &quot;I didn&#039;t do it to make history. &#160;You do something &lt;br&gt; that you want to do or feel you have to do, because &lt;br&gt; you like it and love it. &#160;And if it turns out to be &lt;br&gt; history, well, so what?&quot; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; --Carroll Shelby, &lt;br&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; from &quot;The Cobra-Ferrari Wars&quot; &lt;br&gt; ---------------------------------------------------- &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug25.055015.14&#8230;@leland.Stanford.EDU&gt; <br /> &gt;tedeb&#8230;@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes: <br /> &gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug24.171230.18&#8230;@ctp.com&gt; <a href="mailto:bp...@ctp.com">bp&#8230;@ctp.com</a> (Bob Pitas)writes: <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug17.164537.25&#8230;@usenet.ins.cwru.edu&gt; <a href="mailto:j...@po.CWRU.Edu">j&#8230;@po.CWRU.Edu</a> <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;(John R. Daker) writes: <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I wonder about this more often now that I have 0-60 times in the 3 <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;second range. <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;Commuting in a top-fuel dragster? &nbsp;What the hell car gets &#8217;3 second range&#8217; <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;0-60 times? &nbsp;Even if you drive around with slicks, I find it hard tobelieve <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;that you can get under 4 seconds&#8230; &nbsp;(I don&#8217;t think most motorcycles can <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;hole-shot that fast!)  </p>
<p>&gt; Dude my 600 CBR does 0-60 in 3 seconds&#8230; what planet do you live on??? </p>
<p>Turbine Corvette (built by Andy Granatelli, 100% street legal):  </p>
<p>0-60, 3.6 secs.  </p>
<p>Admittedly not quite stock. &nbsp;Saw it in an old Motor Trend.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &#8211;Andy  </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- <br /> &quot;I didn&#8217;t do it to make history. &nbsp;You do something <br /> that you want to do or feel you have to do, because <br /> you like it and love it. &nbsp;And if it turns out to be <br /> history, well, so what?&quot;  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &#8211;Carroll Shelby, <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; from &quot;The Cobra-Ferrari Wars&quot; <br /> &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;1992Aug25.055015.14...@leland.Stanford.EDU&gt; tedeb...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug24.171230.18...@ctp.com&gt; bp...@ctp.com (Bob Pitas) writes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&#124;&gt;Commuting in a top-fuel dragster? &#160;What the hell car gets &#039;3 second range&#039; &lt;br&gt; &#124;&gt;0-60 times? &#160;Even if you drive around with slicks, I find it hard to believe &lt;br&gt; &#124;&gt;that you can get under 4 seconds... &#160;(I don&#039;t think most motorcycles can &lt;br&gt; &#124;&gt;hole-shot that fast!) &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&#124;there are a few motorcycles (in the one-liter class) that will &lt;br&gt; &#124;go under 3 seconds for the 0-60 with ETs in the 10 second range. &lt;br&gt; &#124;and a honda CBR600F2 takes just a hair over 3 seconds for the 0-60. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;No doubt he was referring to American motorcycles :-) &lt;br&gt; -- &lt;br&gt; Chris Malcolm &#160; &#160;c...@uk.ac.ed.aifh &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;+44 (0)31 650 3085 &lt;br&gt; Department of Artificial Intelligence, &#160; &#160;Edinburgh University &lt;br&gt; 5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;DoD #205 &lt;br&gt;
  
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<p>&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug24.171230.18&#8230;@ctp.com&gt; <a href="mailto:bp...@ctp.com">bp&#8230;@ctp.com</a> (Bob Pitas) writes: </p>
<p>|&gt;Commuting in a top-fuel dragster? &nbsp;What the hell car gets &#8217;3 second range&#8217; <br /> |&gt;0-60 times? &nbsp;Even if you drive around with slicks, I find it hard to believe <br /> |&gt;that you can get under 4 seconds&#8230; &nbsp;(I don&#8217;t think most motorcycles can <br /> |&gt;hole-shot that fast!)  </p>
<p>|there are a few motorcycles (in the one-liter class) that will <br /> |go under 3 seconds for the 0-60 with ETs in the 10 second range. <br /> |and a honda CBR600F2 takes just a hair over 3 seconds for the 0-60.  </p>
<p>No doubt he was referring to American motorcycles <img src='http://www.autosdrive.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  <br /> &#8212; <br /> Chris Malcolm &nbsp; &nbsp;c&#8230;@uk.ac.ed.aifh &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;+44 (0)31 650 3085 <br /> Department of Artificial Intelligence, &nbsp; &nbsp;Edinburgh University <br /> 5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;DoD #205 </p>
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  In article &lt;1992Aug25.055015.14...@leland.Stanford.EDU&gt; tedeb...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug24.171230.18...@ctp.com&gt; bp...@ctp.com (Bob Pitas) writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug17.164537.25...@usenet.ins.cwru.edu&gt; j...@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;I wonder about this more often now that I have 0-60 times in the 3 &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;second range. &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;Commuting in a top-fuel dragster? &#160;What the hell car gets &#039;3 second range&#039; &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;0-60 times? &#160;Even if you drive around with slicks, I find it hard to believe &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;that you can get under 4 seconds... &#160;(I don&#039;t think most motorcycles can &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;hole-shot that fast!) &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&#160;Dude my 600 CBR does 0-60 in 3 seconds... what planet do you live on??? &lt;br&gt;
  
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<p>&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug24.171230.18&#8230;@ctp.com&gt; <a href="mailto:bp...@ctp.com">bp&#8230;@ctp.com</a> (Bob Pitas) writes: <br /> &gt;&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug17.164537.25&#8230;@usenet.ins.cwru.edu&gt; <a href="mailto:j...@po.CWRU.Edu">j&#8230;@po.CWRU.Edu</a> (John R. Daker) writes: <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;I wonder about this more often now that I have 0-60 times in the 3 <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;second range. <br /> &gt;&gt;Commuting in a top-fuel dragster? &nbsp;What the hell car gets &#8217;3 second range&#8217; <br /> &gt;&gt;0-60 times? &nbsp;Even if you drive around with slicks, I find it hard to believe <br /> &gt;&gt;that you can get under 4 seconds&#8230; &nbsp;(I don&#8217;t think most motorcycles can <br /> &gt;&gt;hole-shot that fast!) </p>
<p>&nbsp;Dude my 600 CBR does 0-60 in 3 seconds&#8230; what planet do you live on??? </p>
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  In article &lt;1992Aug19.234527.18...@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au&gt; ins4...@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Deeran Peethamparam) writes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt;John R. Daker (j...@po.CWRU.Edu) wrote: &lt;br&gt; &gt;: I have wondered what a &quot;protector of humanity&quot; would do. &#160;In my &lt;br&gt; &gt;: younger and more foolish days, I smoked a cop away from a red light &lt;br&gt; &gt;: all the way up to the posted limit. Ooooooooooo. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;Reminds me of the time when I was driving home from a night out -- it &lt;br&gt; &gt;was 2am in the morning, clear sky, moon out, deserted roads. &#160;Anyway, I &lt;br&gt; &gt;was sitting at a set of lights on a three-lane highway when a guy in &lt;br&gt; &gt;an &#039;89 Honda Prelude pulled up beside me. &#160;He was revving his engine, &lt;br&gt; &gt;and so I thought, &quot;Right! &#160;Let&#039;s take this guy!&quot;. &#160;So when the lights &lt;br&gt; &gt;turned green, I smoked him away from the lights (I drive a mildly &lt;br&gt; &gt;worked &#039;79 Mazda 626). &#160;So, for the next 3 lights, we had full-on &lt;br&gt; &gt;accleration runs. &#160;No other cars on the road, and photo radar wasn&#039;t &lt;br&gt; &gt;around then, so I didn&#039;t really care too much. &#160;Anyways, we were pretty &lt;br&gt; &gt;even -- it came down to who was first away from the lights. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;At the final set of lights, he made the &quot;time-out&quot; sign (you know, hands &lt;br&gt; &gt;together to form a &quot;T&quot;) and I nodded. &#160;Then he pulled out his wallet &lt;br&gt; &gt;and flashed his cop&#039;s shield. &#160;Oops. &#160;Should have seen the smirk on &lt;br&gt; &gt;his face! &#160;No ticket, though, thank the lord. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;D.P. &lt;br&gt; &gt;-- &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;In New York they call that a &quot;Contest of Speed&quot; not sure what the fine is &lt;br&gt; though. &lt;br&gt;
  
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<p>&gt;John R. Daker (j&#8230;@po.CWRU.Edu) wrote: <br /> &gt;: I have wondered what a &quot;protector of humanity&quot; would do. &nbsp;In my <br /> &gt;: younger and more foolish days, I smoked a cop away from a red light <br /> &gt;: all the way up to the posted limit. Ooooooooooo. <br /> 
<p>&gt;Reminds me of the time when I was driving home from a night out &#8212; it <br /> &gt;was 2am in the morning, clear sky, moon out, deserted roads. &nbsp;Anyway, I <br /> &gt;was sitting at a set of lights on a three-lane highway when a guy in <br /> &gt;an &#8217;89 Honda Prelude pulled up beside me. &nbsp;He was revving his engine, <br /> &gt;and so I thought, &quot;Right! &nbsp;Let&#8217;s take this guy!&quot;. &nbsp;So when the lights <br /> &gt;turned green, I smoked him away from the lights (I drive a mildly <br /> &gt;worked &#8217;79 Mazda 626). &nbsp;So, for the next 3 lights, we had full-on <br /> &gt;accleration runs. &nbsp;No other cars on the road, and photo radar wasn&#8217;t <br /> &gt;around then, so I didn&#8217;t really care too much. &nbsp;Anyways, we were pretty <br /> &gt;even &#8212; it came down to who was first away from the lights.  </p>
<p>&gt;At the final set of lights, he made the &quot;time-out&quot; sign (you know, hands <br /> &gt;together to form a &quot;T&quot;) and I nodded. &nbsp;Then he pulled out his wallet <br /> &gt;and flashed his cop&#8217;s shield. &nbsp;Oops. &nbsp;Should have seen the smirk on <br /> &gt;his face! &nbsp;No ticket, though, thank the lord.  </p>
<p>&gt;D.P. <br /> &gt;&#8211; </p>
<p>In New York they call that a &quot;Contest of Speed&quot; not sure what the fine is <br /> though. </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;1992Aug19.202640.26...@leland.Stanford.EDU&gt;, tedeb...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; In article &lt;1992Aug18.14200...@us.oracle.com&gt; eoa...@us.oracle.com writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;Can&#039;t cite the code sections, but in California, you can accelerate as fast as &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;you want to the limit provided your tires don&#039;t squeel. &#160;If you smoke &#039;em up, &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;then it is exhibition of speed (racing...) or reckless driving depending upon &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;the opinion of the arresting officer. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; what if you&#039;re deaf and can&#039;t hear the tires squeal? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;Interesting side note on full throttle acceleration: the drivers manual &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;for the &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;911 Turbo (1989, not sure of others) requires that you accelerate at full &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;throttle in first gear to 5000RPM once the car is warm EVERY TIME YOU &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;DRIVE IT. &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;The reason: to clean out the wastegate. &#160;Now, 5000RPM is 35MPH, but you get &lt;br&gt; &gt;&gt;there in about 1 second :) with a lot of noice when the turbo cuts in. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; 0-35 mph in one second? &#160;in your dreams. &#160;try two. &lt;br&gt; &gt; if you were talking about a bennetton F1 race car, i might believe you. &lt;br&gt; &gt; btw, i like this owner&#039;s manual. &lt;br&gt; &gt; -teddy &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Didn&#039;t you notice the smiley? &#160;Yeah, it won&#039;t go 0 - 35 in one second, but I&#039;m &lt;br&gt; so happy while I&#039;m flooring it and the backing off (or shifting...) at around &lt;br&gt; 35, that I lose count :) :) :) &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Ed Oates (my opinions, not Oracle&#039;s) &lt;br&gt;
  
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<p>&gt; In article &lt;1992Aug18.14200&#8230;@us.oracle.com&gt; <a href="mailto:eoa...@us.oracle.com">eoa&#8230;@us.oracle.com</a> writes: <br /> &gt;&gt;Can&#8217;t cite the code sections, but in California, you can accelerate as fast as <br /> &gt;&gt;you want to the limit provided your tires don&#8217;t squeel. &nbsp;If you smoke &#8216;em up, <br /> &gt;&gt;then it is exhibition of speed (racing&#8230;) or reckless driving depending upon <br /> &gt;&gt;the opinion of the arresting officer. <br /> 
<p>&gt; what if you&#8217;re deaf and can&#8217;t hear the tires squeal?  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Interesting side note on full throttle acceleration: the drivers manual <br /> &gt;&gt;for the <br /> &gt;&gt;911 Turbo (1989, not sure of others) requires that you accelerate at full <br /> &gt;&gt;throttle in first gear to 5000RPM once the car is warm EVERY TIME YOU <br /> &gt;&gt;DRIVE IT. <br /> &gt;&gt;The reason: to clean out the wastegate. &nbsp;Now, 5000RPM is 35MPH, but you get <br /> &gt;&gt;there in about 1 second <img src='http://www.autosdrive.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  with a lot of noice when the turbo cuts in.  </p>
<p>&gt; 0-35 mph in one second? &nbsp;in your dreams. &nbsp;try two. <br /> &gt; if you were talking about a bennetton F1 race car, i might believe you. <br /> &gt; btw, i like this owner&#8217;s manual. <br /> &gt; -teddy </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you notice the smiley? &nbsp;Yeah, it won&#8217;t go 0 &#8211; 35 in one second, but I&#8217;m <br /> so happy while I&#8217;m flooring it and the backing off (or shifting&#8230;) at around <br /> 35, that I lose count <img src='http://www.autosdrive.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.autosdrive.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.autosdrive.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Ed Oates (my opinions, not Oracle&#8217;s) </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;1992Aug19.234527.18...@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au&gt; ins4...@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Deeran Peethamparam) writes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;Reminds me of the time when I was driving home from a night out -- it &lt;br&gt; &gt;was 2am in the morning, clear sky, moon out, deserted roads. &#160;Anyway, I &lt;br&gt; &gt;was sitting at a set of lights on a three-lane highway when a guy in &lt;br&gt; &gt;an &#039;89 Honda Prelude pulled up beside me. &#160;He was revving his engine, &lt;br&gt; &gt;and so I thought, &quot;Right! &#160;Let&#039;s take this guy!&quot;. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;[Incidents of drag racing omitted.] &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;At the final set of lights, he made the &quot;time-out&quot; sign (you know, hands &lt;br&gt; &gt;together to form a &quot;T&quot;) and I nodded. &#160;Then he pulled out his wallet &lt;br&gt; &gt;and flashed his cop&#039;s shield. &#160;Oops. &#160;Should have seen the smirk on &lt;br&gt; &gt;his face! &#160;No ticket, though, thank the lord. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Yeah, it would have been fun to take the sucker to court on an &lt;br&gt; entrapment charge. ;-) &lt;br&gt;
  
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<p>&gt;Reminds me of the time when I was driving home from a night out &#8212; it <br /> &gt;was 2am in the morning, clear sky, moon out, deserted roads. &nbsp;Anyway, I <br /> &gt;was sitting at a set of lights on a three-lane highway when a guy in <br /> &gt;an &#8217;89 Honda Prelude pulled up beside me. &nbsp;He was revving his engine, <br /> &gt;and so I thought, &quot;Right! &nbsp;Let&#8217;s take this guy!&quot;. </p>
<p>[Incidents of drag racing omitted.]  </p>
<p>&gt;At the final set of lights, he made the &quot;time-out&quot; sign (you know, hands <br /> &gt;together to form a &quot;T&quot;) and I nodded. &nbsp;Then he pulled out his wallet <br /> &gt;and flashed his cop&#8217;s shield. &nbsp;Oops. &nbsp;Should have seen the smirk on <br /> &gt;his face! &nbsp;No ticket, though, thank the lord. </p>
<p>Yeah, it would have been fun to take the sucker to court on an <br /> entrapment charge. <img src='http://www.autosdrive.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;j...@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;In NH these actions are prosecuted by two different laws. &#160;The obvious &lt;br&gt; &gt;one is reckless driving, which would certainly apply to full &lt;br&gt; &gt;accelleration at an intersection for no reason -- if something &lt;br&gt; &gt;appeared in your path (a likely thing at an intersection) you&#039;d have a &lt;br&gt; &gt;hard time avoiding it. &#160;The other law is misuse of power, which is &lt;br&gt; &gt;usually used to prosecute people for burning out. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&quot;Misuse of power?&quot; Hmm... Ya think maybe George Bush and a few other politicos &lt;br&gt; have gotten a few of those tickets? ;-) &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; Scott Coleman &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;t...@uiuc.edu &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Free Advice: It is inadvisable to read Bush&#039;s lips at an official banquet. &lt;br&gt;
  
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<p>&quot;Misuse of power?&quot; Hmm&#8230; Ya think maybe George Bush and a few other politicos <br /> have gotten a few of those tickets? <img src='http://www.autosdrive.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> Scott Coleman &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;t&#8230;@uiuc.edu  </p>
<p>Free Advice: It is inadvisable to read Bush&#8217;s lips at an official banquet. </p>
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