I thought I’d seen it all….until today!
Here’s the situation:
I-78 east in NJ at about 7:30am. Traffic is the normal rush hour
amount. On the Westbound side of the road there is a NJ state
trooper writing a ticket or doing whatever it is they do. On the
eastbound side a "brother officer" appeared to be observing the
traffic stop from the median. So naturally everyone on the eastbound
side hits the brakes and moves out of the left lane. I’m no dummy
either, so when I see the trooper on the median I get out of the
left lane and slow down to 55mph. As I pass, the trooper who was
observing decided to pull back out on the eastbound side with the
rest of the rush hour traffic. Now the trooper is in the left lane
all alone doing about 65mph when some guy comes out of nowhere and
decides since the police are speeding then so can I". This guy is not
only speeding but he is tailgating the trooper! This goes on for about
15-20 sec. and the trooper pulls into the middle lane. So I figure
that this guy HAS to slow down now right? WRONG! This knuckle-head
PASSED the trooper! My guess is this guy was doing about 70mph. In
NJ 70mph in the left lane will probably get you a bunch of flashing
headlights and other things, but to pass a trooper IN A MARKED CAR
at 70mph is pretty dumb. So I’m sure you can guess that this guy got
pulled over. I look over to the right and it seemed as if every other
driver on the road was laughing their heads off!
Can anyone explain to me why someone would have the nerve to think that
they could exceed the speed limit and pass a state trooper?
I’m not saying I think the speed limit is justified, but I figure that
you are asking for trouble by blatantly breaking the law in front of
the very person who is supposed to uphold the law (weather you think
the law is stupid or not doesn’t mater).
Opinions welcome, save the flames for someone who cares!
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In article <2vu39s$…@donner.cc.bellcore.com>, sy…@donner.cc.bellcore.com (sykes,michael) writes:
|> I thought I’d seen it all….until today!
|> Here’s the situation:
|>
|> I-78 east in NJ at about 7:30am. Traffic is the normal rush hour
|> amount. On the Westbound side of the road there is a NJ state
|> trooper writing a ticket or doing whatever it is they do. On the
|> eastbound side a "brother officer" appeared to be observing the
|> traffic stop from the median. So naturally everyone on the eastbound
|> side hits the brakes and moves out of the left lane. I’m no dummy
|> either, so when I see the trooper on the median I get out of the
|> left lane and slow down to 55mph. As I pass, the trooper who was
|> observing decided to pull back out on the eastbound side with the
|> rest of the rush hour traffic. Now the trooper is in the left lane
|> all alone doing about 65mph when some guy comes out of nowhere and
|> decides since the police are speeding then so can I". This guy is not
|> only speeding but he is tailgating the trooper! This goes on for about
|> 15-20 sec. and the trooper pulls into the middle lane. So I figure
|> that this guy HAS to slow down now right? WRONG! This knuckle-head
|> PASSED the trooper! My guess is this guy was doing about 70mph. In
|> NJ 70mph in the left lane will probably get you a bunch of flashing
|> headlights and other things, but to pass a trooper IN A MARKED CAR
|> at 70mph is pretty dumb. So I’m sure you can guess that this guy got
|> pulled over. I look over to the right and it seemed as if every other
|> driver on the road was laughing their heads off!
|>
|> Can anyone explain to me why someone would have the nerve to think that
|> they could exceed the speed limit and pass a state trooper?
|>
|> I’m not saying I think the speed limit is justified, but I figure that
|> you are asking for trouble by blatantly breaking the law in front of
|> the very person who is supposed to uphold the law (weather you think
|> the law is stupid or not doesn’t mater).
|>
|> Opinions welcome, save the flames for someone who cares!
|>
I noticed the same thing here in California. I’ve actually seen it may times
in the last three weeks. A police car would be doing 70mph-75mph in the left lane
so most people would pull over to let him by and meanwhile would slow down.
Then two or three cars would get into the left lane and start following him and
the same or higher speeds. I mean, they DO have rear view mirrors, the CAN see
your speeding…… I really don’t get it. The thing is that the guy doesn’t
seem pull them over…. I’m not sure about this since I slow to 55mph and they go
off at 70+…. I think it’s plain stupid.
Andrea
In article <2vu39s$…@donner.cc.bellcore.com> sykes,
sy…@donner.cc.bellcore.com writes:
>Can anyone explain to me why someone would have the nerve to think that
>they could exceed the speed limit and pass a state trooper?
Because he (or she) was a police officer, too?
Ivan
Another one that amazes me. Twice in the past year I have had the following
experience. I’m driving a steady 80 mph (130km), my radar detector sounds a
warning, I slow down very quickly and the person behind me, who has followed
me for over 20 miles PULLS OUT AND PASSES. Both collected tickets while I
carried on. It seems to me that if you are letting someone else be "ticket
bait" and that person slows down you should too — there is probably some good
reason for a person who is obviously driving well over the limit to slow down.
A personal favourite story involved a friend of my father who brought one of
the first XKE Jags into western Canada. He came up on a line of 9 cars doing
the speed limit, saw an opening, put his food down and passed all 9; including
the lead car which was a marked police car. The officer wrote the ticket for
"exceeding the posted limit" as my father’s friend simply pulled over and
waited for the officer. Again though why don’t people wait for a chance to
size up the reason for slow traffic before making a move?
Doug Bicknell
College of Commerce
University of Saskatchewan
S7N 0WO
(306)966-4785
Fax (306) 966-5408
bickn…@commerce.usask.ca
ro…@lark.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Andrea Rosso) writes:
> Then two or three cars would get into the left lane and start
> following him and the same or higher speeds. I mean, they DO
> have rear view mirrors, the CAN see your speeding……
This brings to mind something I’ve always been curious about.
If a cop isn’t actually in pursuit of a lawbreaker, is he
legally justified in exceeding the speed limit himself?
I realize that cops speed all the time, but it’s never been
clear to me whether they’re explicitly entitled to (without
being in hot pursuit), or if it’s simply because they’re
never challenged about it.
Geoff
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Michael,
Was this guy driving a white Bronco and wearing a ‘drippy’ red glove ???????
Dave.
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>This brings to mind something I’ve always been curious about.
>If a cop isn’t actually in pursuit of a lawbreaker, is he
>legally justified in exceeding the speed limit himself?
No. But think about what happens when a police cruiser does the
speed limit on a highway. 2, 3, 4 lanes of cars backed up for
a long distance, because everyone thinks the big bad cop is going
to pull them over if they pass. This situation is much more
dangerous than someone speeding.
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>This brings to mind something I’ve always been curious about.
>If a cop isn’t actually in pursuit of a lawbreaker, is he
>legally justified in exceeding the speed limit himself?
Well, I’m not sure about this, but I think you cannot get a ticket for this,
since it would technically be entrapment. That is, an officer of the law
is supposed to uphold the law. If there is no emergency, then he is no
more immune to the speed limit than you or I. Thus, if he’s going 70,
and you follow him, he shouldn’t be able to ticket you since he’s
"goading" you into driving illegally (i.e. 15mph over the limit). Now,
if you pass him, that may be a different story. Actually, I remember this
one time, I was following a cop doing 80. He got pissed, moved into the
middle lane, slams on the brakes. I had enough distance behind him, and as
he changed lanes, I expected this, so I slammed on the brakes too. He
slowed to 50, I did too for about 2 miles. He sped up back to 80, I
followed. Couple miles down, he did it again. I still didn’t pass him.
This time, he almost stopped, so I passed at 50, kept going. He followed
me for two miles, and I could tell he was just itching for me to do
something wrong. I didn’t, so he took off again, with me behind him. He
didn’t bother trying to pull his stupid trick again until he got off the
exit.
Now, I know it’s not the smartest thing in the world to piss off a cop, but
it is fun sometimes, as long as you don’t get a ticket. But in general,
I always follow cops at whatever speed they are doing (one time, a cop,
another driver and me got up to around 90). I have >>yet<< to get a ticket
this way, and I’ve been doing this for years. The only thing you have to
watch out for is the stupid little sudden brakes (that’s why you never
tailgate…just stay a good distance back). The other very important thing
is sometimes a cop "pretends" to get off an exit, actually gets off, and gets
back on immediately, hopefully for him behind you this time. Make sure that
if a cop exits, he actually does exit.
Bob
Ob Driving (i.e. anti-ticket) tip: if you are driving really fast, and even
*suspect* a cop is behind you, but a far ways out, just pull a stupid cop
trick and exit. A couple seconds out of your way is better than getting
a ticket. Even though most of the time, my suspicions are incorrect
(actually, sometimes it’s absolutely hilarious what you think was a cop),
there have been a good deal more than once that I’ve saved myself from
a sure ticket.
It couldn’t have been the guy in the Bronco.
He was only doing 45MPH.
I must say, it was a nice truck though.
David Williams (wil…@nokia.com) wrote:
: Michael,
: Was this guy driving a white Bronco and wearing a ‘drippy’ red glove ???????
: Dave.
: <<<<<<<< Nobody told me about the breakdown in communications!@#@#% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yes. The have a plan set up. Most of the time, they go faster than the flow
of traffic to go up behind speeders.
On I-5 for SF – LA, those Mustangs cruise around at over 100mph.
: This brings to mind something I’ve always been curious about.
: If a cop isn’t actually in pursuit of a lawbreaker, is he
: legally justified in exceeding the speed limit himself?
: I realize that cops speed all the time, but it’s never been
: clear to me whether they’re explicitly entitled to (without
: being in hot pursuit), or if it’s simply because they’re
: never challenged about it.
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I agree.
Traffic on a five lane freeway will back up.
Everyone cuts down on the following distance.
: No. But think about what happens when a police cruiser does the
: speed limit on a highway. 2, 3, 4 lanes of cars backed up for
: a long distance, because everyone thinks the big bad cop is going
: to pull them over if they pass. This situation is much more
: dangerous than someone speeding.
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In article <bicknell.15.000F3…@commerce.usask.ca> bickn…@commerce.usask.ca (doug bicknell) writes:
>Another one that amazes me. Twice in the past year I have had the following
>experience. I’m driving a steady 80 mph (130km), my radar detector sounds a
>warning, I slow down very quickly and the person behind me, who has followed
>me for over 20 miles PULLS OUT AND PASSES. Both collected tickets while I
>carried on. It seems to me that if you are letting someone else be "ticket
>bait" and that person slows down you should too — there is probably some good
>reason for a person who is obviously driving well over the limit to slow down.
>A personal favourite story involved a friend of my father who brought one of
>the first XKE Jags into western Canada. He came up on a line of 9 cars doing
>the speed limit, saw an opening, put his food down and passed all 9; including
>the lead car which was a marked police car. The officer wrote the ticket for
>"exceeding the posted limit" as my father’s friend simply pulled over and
>waited for the officer. Again though why don’t people wait for a chance to
>size up the reason for slow traffic before making a move?
Sometimes you can pick up a lot from people who are trying to pass you. A
few months ago I was cruising down I-80 at a little over 70mph, when two
cars behind me pulled into the left lane to pass. I saw them in my mirror
suddenly match my speed, looked up the road to see an overpass in the distance,
and realized that their radar detectors probably picked up a cop on the
other side of the overpass. I dropped down th 65 on the nose, and sure
enough, when I went under the bridge, there was a cop hiding behind the
pillar on the other side. Considering that I had out-of-state plates,
I was extremely grateful that the people passing me were on the ball that
day.
My experience with the other extreme involves car thieves. My car, which
has been stolen three times, was recovered the third time when the thieves
made an illegal left turn in front of a squad car. It was recovered the
first time by another act of sheer stupidity – the thieves tried to sell
my record collection, which had been in the trunk of the car, at a used
record store two blocks from where they stole the car, two days after stealing
it, in the original box, with my name written on masking tape on some of
the records.
I don’t know about other laws in other states.
In California, a cop cannot pull you over from the rear. Which means that if
you were speeding in back of the CHP and he/she pulled you over, that
would not hold up.
But if the CHP moved over, slammed on the brakes and if you were still speeding when he/she clocked you, then you can get pulled over.
A friend of mine was speeding on 101 one time and a CHP car was cruising steadinly, my friend slowed down right next to the CHP unit and they both looked at
each other. The cop slowed down and tried to clock him but my friend slowed
down. Cop tailgated for a little but it didn’t work.
: I noticed the same thing here in California. I’ve actually seen it may times
: in the last three weeks. A police car would be doing 70mph-75mph in the left lane
: so most people would pull over to let him by and meanwhile would slow down.
: Then two or three cars would get into the left lane and start following him and
: the same or higher speeds. I mean, they DO have rear view mirrors, the CAN see
: your speeding…… I really don’t get it. The thing is that the guy doesn’t
: seem pull them over…. I’m not sure about this since I slow to 55mph and they go
: off at 70+…. I think it’s plain stupid.
: Andrea
In article <2vv57l$…@jethro.corp.sun.com>,
Geoff Miller <geo…@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM> wrote:
>If a cop isn’t actually in pursuit of a lawbreaker, is he
>legally justified in exceeding the speed limit himself?
>I realize that cops speed all the time, but it’s never been
>clear to me whether they’re explicitly entitled to (without
>being in hot pursuit), or if it’s simply because they’re
>never challenged about it.
I’ve heard that a marked police car can drive over the speed
limit even without the lights on. I’m not sure if it’s true.
Cops don’t always speed! I’ve seen so many cops going 100km/h
(the speed limit) on 401 of Ontario. I always tried to pass
them (and I did) because I don’t want to see a long tail behind
him but nothing in front of them. I always tried to be the first
one to pass them because everyone was actually waiting for someone
to do that first. I usually pass them very slowly and they don’t
seem to mind that. After passing, don’t forget to get back to
the right lane carefully!!
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In article <2vvpjt…@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, bgoh…@wam.umd.edu (Babak Gohari) writes:
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|> Now, I know it’s not the smartest thing in the world to piss off a cop, but
|> it is fun sometimes, as long as you don’t get a ticket. But in general,
|> I always follow cops at whatever speed they are doing (one time, a cop,
|> another driver and me got up to around 90).
Up to this point I agreed with you (sounds like you ran across a
real jerk). However, you do not know if the cop is enroute to an
emergency. There are times when an officer is not allowed to use
his lights and sirens, but still needs to be somewhere quickly.
He’s simply following the rules.
If he’s just driving fast, fine. If he’s enroute somewhere (you
can usually tell by how agressive his driving is), it’s best to
back off. You won’t get a ticket because he has something else
to do, but it’s a bad idea anyway.
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In article <2vvee2$…@access1.digex.net> j…@access1.digex.net (Jim) writes:
}>This brings to mind something I’ve always been curious about.
}>If a cop isn’t actually in pursuit of a lawbreaker, is he
}>legally justified in exceeding the speed limit himself?
}
}No. But think about what happens when a police cruiser does the
}speed limit on a highway. 2, 3, 4 lanes of cars backed up for
}a long distance, because everyone thinks the big bad cop is going
}to pull them over if they pass. This situation is much more
}dangerous than someone speeding.
The problem, then, is with the law. There’s a marked police cruiser
that enters 270 at Middlebrook road during rush hour, and
cruises along at >70mph, quite often. Think he ever gets a ticket?
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Michael Sykes <sy…@donner.cc.bellcore.com> wrote about stupid
drivers speeding past state troopers, and obviously getting pulled over.
Yes, this happens, and it’s appalling to see who stupid some people can be.
Another obvious one is driving on the shoulder. Read on.
Just yesterday, I-75 northbound in Atlanta was bumper-to-bumper due
to an eight-car accident. A cop was travelling on the shoulder, going
towards the scene of the accident. TWO stupid motorists immediately
pulled into the shoulder lane and start FOLLOWING THE COP!! How stupid
can you get?
As you might imagine, the cop stopped, collected the driver’s licenses
from the two dumbasses, and proceeded to the accident scene. He probably
told them to meet him later at the accident scene to get their tickets!
How stupid can some people get? Well, at the time I thought that
the lucky winners thought like William Nau:
In article <300qup$…@cedar.mr.net>, William Nau <n…@ssesco.com> wrote:
>If he’s enroute somewhere [...]
>[...] you won’t get a ticket because he has something else
>to do, but it’s a bad idea anyway.
Well, don’t count on it. Obviously this cop was rushing to an accident
scene, but still he stopped to collect the license’s of these two shoulder
drivers.
In all honesty, I don’t think this cop was much needed at the accident scene.
When I went past the place, I saw plenty of police cars there. Maybe that’s
why he could spare the time to stop and pull those people over.
Paulo
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In article <2vv57l$…@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>,
Geoff Miller <geo…@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM> wrote:
>ro…@lark.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Andrea Rosso) writes:
>> Then two or three cars would get into the left lane and start
>> following him and the same or higher speeds. I mean, they DO
>> have rear view mirrors, the CAN see your speeding……
>This brings to mind something I’ve always been curious about.
>If a cop isn’t actually in pursuit of a lawbreaker, is he
>legally justified in exceeding the speed limit himself?
No. Not at all.
>I realize that cops speed all the time, but it’s never been
>clear to me whether they’re explicitly entitled to (without
>being in hot pursuit), or if it’s simply because they’re
>never challenged about it.
Police are not entitled to break any laws–but then again, on a
speeding violation, who’s going to stop the bastards? I’ve heard
all kinds of cock and bull stories about how they were probably
responding to a silent call, or how they didn’t have their lights
on "because people can’t see them or hear the siren anyway."
If they’re responding to a call, then what in the hell are they
doing pulling someone over for a _traffic_violation_ (which, isn’t
even a MISDEMEANOR)? Also, by that reasoning, Oklahoma is one of the
most crime-ridden places in the Universe–the only time you see
a police car doing less than the speed limit is when it’s stopped,
writing a ticket or lying in ambush for motorists!
Now, this isn’t to say that all cops are like this; I know several
who are really great guys. I have nothing but respect for the
Oklahoma Highway Patrol–it’s one of the most professional law
enforcement agencies in the nation, IMHO, and they’re severely
underpaid, too. And OHP actually provides a useful service on
rural OK highways–it’s not uncommon to see them stopped behind
cars on the side of the road, assisting motorists with problems
(like flat tires, etc.).
And, to their credit, they’ve never been featured on "Real Stories
of the Highway Patrol," "COPS," or any of the other schlock shows.
(Up until the last few months, they had actually refused requests
from these shows, but some of the pinhead administrators in OKC
decided that they needed more exposure, so there will be a few
shows about them on "Real Stories..". A friend of mine will be
in two of them; he said that the bad guy in one of them was played
by an off-duty US Deputy Marshal.
James
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In article <302fe9$…@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>,
James P. Callison <calli…@ecn.uoknor.edu> wrote:
>Now, this isn’t to say that all cops are like this; I know several
>who are really great guys. I have nothing but respect for the
>Oklahoma Highway Patrol–it’s one of the most professional law
>enforcement agencies in the nation, IMHO, and they’re severely
>underpaid, too. And OHP actually provides a useful service on
>rural OK highways–it’s not uncommon to see them stopped behind
>cars on the side of the road, assisting motorists with problems
>(like flat tires, etc.).
You sound exactly like David Letterman! Are you sure you haven’t gotten
pulled over more than a few times by the OHP??? :-)
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Kenneth (stea…@mercury.sfsu.edu) wrote:
: I don’t know about other laws in other states.
: In California, a cop cannot pull you over from the rear. Which means that if
: you were speeding in back of the CHP and he/she pulled you over, that
: would not hold up.
: But if the CHP moved over, slammed on the brakes and if you were still speeding when he/she clocked you, then you can get pulled over.
: A friend of mine was speeding on 101 one time and a CHP car was cruising steadinly, my friend slowed down right next to the CHP unit and they both looked at
: each other. The cop slowed down and tried to clock him but my friend slowed
: down. Cop tailgated for a little but it didn’t work.
: : I noticed the same thing here in California. I’ve actually seen it may times
: : in the last three weeks. A police car would be doing 70mph-75mph in the left lane
: : so most people would pull over to let him by and meanwhile would slow down.
: : Then two or three cars would get into the left lane and start following him and
: : the same or higher speeds. I mean, they DO have rear view mirrors, the CAN see
: : your speeding…… I really don’t get it. The thing is that the guy doesn’t
: : seem pull them over…. I’m not sure about this since I slow to 55mph and they go
: : off at 70+…. I think it’s plain stupid.
: : Andrea
Yeah, but what happens if you are following a cop at 70mph or so,
and then another cop comes up from behind you? I’d say you’re
screwed.
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In article <304m1o$…@mojo.eng.umd.edu>,
Thomas V. DelRosario <tom…@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
>Did you see the latest issue of Car&Driver? There is a letter by a
>cop who says that they don”t give tickets to other cops. They can
>speed because they are trained in high speed driving.
I’ve always wished that civilians could get trained in
high-speed driving and receive a special endorsement on
drivers licenses that would sway the decision of an officer
about to issue a speeding/careless driving ticket.
Granted, it wouldn’t be an excuse to drive like a jerk,
but maybe it would let people slide if they were doing 10-20
over in light/no traffic…
Opinions?
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Thomas V. DelRosario (tom…@glue.umd.edu) wrote:
: Geoff Miller (geo…@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM) wrote:
: : This brings to mind something I’ve always been curious about.
: : If a cop isn’t actually in pursuit of a lawbreaker, is he
: : legally justified in exceeding the speed limit himself?
: : I realize that cops speed all the time, but it’s never been
: : clear to me whether they’re explicitly entitled to (without
: : being in hot pursuit), or if it’s simply because they’re
: : never challenged about it.
: Did you see the latest issue of Car&Driver? There is a letter by a
: cop who says that they don”t give tickets to other cops. They can
: speed because they are trained in high speed driving.
: —
: Tom DelRosario "Gabba gabba hey"
: tom…@eng.umd.edu
Then what if this cop retires? Is his training still effective?
Or one can say when pulled over, "I am an ex-cop…"
Geoff Miller (geo…@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM) wrote:
: This brings to mind something I’ve always been curious about.
: If a cop isn’t actually in pursuit of a lawbreaker, is he
: legally justified in exceeding the speed limit himself?
: I realize that cops speed all the time, but it’s never been
: clear to me whether they’re explicitly entitled to (without
: being in hot pursuit), or if it’s simply because they’re
: never challenged about it.
Did you see the latest issue of Car&Driver? There is a letter by a
cop who says that they don”t give tickets to other cops. They can
speed because they are trained in high speed driving.
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Tom DelRosario "Gabba gabba hey"
tom…@eng.umd.edu
In article <2vvee2$…@access1.digex.net>, j…@access1.digex.net (Jim) wrote:
> >This brings to mind something I’ve always been curious about.
> >If a cop isn’t actually in pursuit of a lawbreaker, is he
> >legally justified in exceeding the speed limit himself?
A state cop once told me he speeds because it enables him to experience a
larger sample size of drivers, and therby increases his chance of catching
someone doing something illegal. Interesting…
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James McElroy Jr.
jmcel…@wpi.wpi.edu
In article <304m1o$…@mojo.eng.umd.edu>, tom…@glue.umd.edu (Thomas V.
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DelRosario) wrote:
> Geoff Miller (geo…@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM) wrote:
> : This brings to mind something I’ve always been curious about.
> : If a cop isn’t actually in pursuit of a lawbreaker, is he
> : legally justified in exceeding the speed limit himself?
> : I realize that cops speed all the time, but it’s never been
> : clear to me whether they’re explicitly entitled to (without
> : being in hot pursuit), or if it’s simply because they’re
> : never challenged about it.
> Did you see the latest issue of Car&Driver? There is a letter by a
> cop who says that they don”t give tickets to other cops. They can
> speed because they are trained in high speed driving.
> —
> Tom DelRosario "Gabba gabba hey"
> tom…@eng.umd.edu
They are?!?!?!?!?! Granted, some states/municipalities do train their
police officers, but in my area, at least, cops aren’t even required to
take driver’s ed (no comment on how inneffective driver’s ed is annyways).
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James McElroy Jr.
jmcel…@wpi.wpi.edu