It never ceases to amaze me about how lazy and inconsiderate American
shoppers are in the parking lots. My car gets several dents by rolling carts
left by lazy shoppers, who wouldn’t take a couple of minutes to bring the
cart back into the rack/stall.
In Europe the overhead cost on having grocery workers collecting carts in
the parking lot was reduced, thanks to a very effective system. In the US, I
have not seen one business adopt such system. Is this a cultural problem? I
notice the lazyass people are more in abundance in the US. Sometime I saw a
macho guy leaving the shopping cart at the parking stall right next to his
Ford Expedition SUV. It just happened that he left the empty cart at a
handicap spot. This caused an old lady to get out of her car to move the
cart after the idiot had drove off.
I am not sure what the jerk in the SUV was made of, but it wouldn’t surprise
me if his brain was filled with dog excrement. But then again, what can we
expect from people driving super-size SUVs. They are no less than a bunch of
urban terrorists!
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:22:12 -0800, "Amy M." <rosebud1…@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>It never ceases to amaze me about how lazy and inconsiderate American
>shoppers are in the parking lots. My car gets several dents by rolling carts
>left by lazy shoppers, who wouldn’t take a couple of minutes to bring the
>cart back into the rack/stall.
A lot of stores now have plastic liner on the edges of the carts
which i suspect solves the problem. A better solution is just to
drive a beater like i do and then you don’t care.
>In Europe the overhead cost on having grocery workers collecting carts in
>the parking lot was reduced, thanks to a very effective system. In the US, I
>have not seen one business adopt such system.
What system is that?
Amy M. wrote:
> It never ceases to amaze me about how lazy and inconsiderate American
> shoppers are in the parking lots.
The nicer places around here *insist* on having a bagboy.. ahem..
"bagperson" push your cart to your car. No runaway carts there. Try
shopping in the better neighborhoods ;^)
Amy M. wrote:
> It never ceases to amaze me about how lazy and inconsiderate American
> shoppers are in the parking lots. My car gets several dents by rolling carts
> left by lazy shoppers, who wouldn’t take a couple of minutes to bring the
> cart back into the rack/stall.
Next time, park as far to the entrance as possible.
If your fat ass can walk that far, that is.
I have a great idea for this. Stores should charge a quarter for the
use of the cart. Then refund the quarter when you return the cart to a
designated stall. Most are such penny pinchers, they would definately
return the cart. Some may even grab other carts.
223rem wrote: <brevity snip/[altered for intent]>:
> Next time, park as far [close] to the [street] entrance as possible.
Every time. My GF bitches but we can both use the "exercise". I like
to leave the more "convenient" spots for people older than myself and I
have no shopping cart issues.
(Some should take note: It’s called "solving your own problem".)
—–
- gpsman
In article <437d56f2$0$41139$14726…@news.sunsite.dk>,
"Amy M." <rosebud1…@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It never ceases to amaze me about how lazy and inconsiderate American
> shoppers are in the parking lots. My car gets several dents by rolling carts
> left by lazy shoppers, who wouldn’t take a couple of minutes to bring the
> cart back into the rack/stall.
> In Europe the overhead cost on having grocery workers collecting carts in
> the parking lot was reduced, thanks to a very effective system.
A system (as yet not described by you) that was implemented beause the
Europeans were too lazy to voluntarily bring the carts back themselves.
In the US, I
> have not seen one business adopt such system. Is this a cultural problem? I
> notice the lazyass people are more in abundance in the US. Sometime I saw a
> macho guy leaving the shopping cart at the parking stall right next to his
> Ford Expedition SUV. It just happened that he left the empty cart at a
> handicap spot. This caused an old lady to get out of her car to move the
> cart after the idiot had drove off.
So you watched all this transpire and did nothing to help…talk about
lazy americans.
> I am not sure what the jerk in the SUV was made of, but it wouldn’t surprise
> me if his brain was filled with dog excrement. But then again, what can we
> expect from people driving super-size SUVs. They are no less than a bunch of
> urban terrorists!
Then you should kill them as your patriotic duty. Enabling a terrorist
to do their work just makes you a terrorist.
"Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" wrote:
> I have a great idea for this. Stores should charge a quarter for the
> use of the cart. Then refund the quarter when you return the cart to a
> designated stall. Most are such penny pinchers, they would definately
> return the cart. Some may even grab other carts.
Yes, but it’s a pain to have to have a quarter to get a cart. I
guess if you shop there all the time you know to have it
available, but if not, you end up with a hand basket, or have to
go get change, or shop elsewhere.
In article <1132294275.790613.41…@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!! <rsfccarb…@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I have a great idea for this. Stores should charge a quarter for the
>use of the cart. Then refund the quarter when you return the cart to a
>designated stall. Most are such penny pinchers, they would definately
>return the cart. Some may even grab other carts.
The last time I was in France, you had to deposit something like 10FF to get a
cart, which was refunded when you returned it. Carts left in the parking area
were attacked by youngsters who wanted the refund! I think 10FF was about $10
then. Quite effective.
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bri…@panix.com (Brian Gordon) writes:
> The last time I was in France, you had to deposit something like 10FF to get a
> cart, which was refunded when you returned it. Carts left in the parking area
> were attacked by youngsters who wanted the refund!
In my 2 month there (1998), I didn’t see anyone leaving the cart:
10FFR (slightly less than $2 back then) was large enough incentive
for most people to walk the cart back to the stall.
It also nicely takes care of the (city) problem of people walking
their groceries home, then abandoning the cart on the street.
> I think 10FF was about $10 then.
Unlikely. Between 1971 and 2001 1USD got you between 4 and 10FRF:
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/EXFRUS/95/Max
I don’t believe their system could possibly be implemented here
though: 10FRF was *extremely* common coin; probably more common
than a quarter here in the US. Plus a lot more of their transactions
were in cash: you just didn’t use CC or check to buy the
freshly-baked morning baguette
OTOH, if you could swipe your frequent-shopping card to get the cart,
and got your frequent-shopping discounts only upon the cart return,
that might work
Cheers,
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Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!! wrote:
> I have a great idea for this. Stores should charge a quarter for the
> use of the cart. Then refund the quarter when you return the cart to a
> designated stall. Most are such penny pinchers, they would definately
> return the cart. Some may even grab other carts.
Nice idea; it should be extended to all product packaging too. $5 deposit
for a big mac wrapper, $3 a cigarette butt for example. There goes the
litter problem!
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:22:12 -0800, "Amy M." <rosebud1…@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>It never ceases to amaze me about how lazy and inconsiderate American
>shoppers are in the parking lots. My car gets several dents by rolling carts
>left by lazy shoppers, who wouldn’t take a couple of minutes to bring the
>cart back into the rack/stall.
You want to know what the safest spot in the parking lot is WRT
shopping cart dings? THE SPOT RIGHT NEXT TO THE CART CORRAL, because
few (if any) shopping carts ever get near that area.
This is one of the common-sense parking strategies that has kept the
vehicles I drive ding-free since 1991.
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:42:00 +0000 (UTC), bri…@panix.com (Brian
Gordon) wrote:
>The last time I was in France, you had to deposit something like 10FF to get a
>cart, which was refunded when you returned it. Carts left in the parking area
>were attacked by youngsters who wanted the refund!
LAX has a similar system for luggage carts, only it’s not industrious
youngsters who round them up – it’s homeless people. On their way back
to the corral, they approach you in the parking lot and ask if you
want a cart. Then, of course, they expect to be well compensated for
all their hard work.
"Amy M." <rosebud1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:437d56f2$0$41139$14726298@news.sunsite.dk…
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> It never ceases to amaze me about how lazy and inconsiderate American
> shoppers are in the parking lots. My car gets several dents by rolling
> carts left by lazy shoppers, who wouldn’t take a couple of minutes to
> bring the cart back into the rack/stall.
> In Europe the overhead cost on having grocery workers collecting carts in
> the parking lot was reduced, thanks to a very effective system. In the US,
> I have not seen one business adopt such system. Is this a cultural
> problem? I notice the lazyass people are more in abundance in the US.
> Sometime I saw a macho guy leaving the shopping cart at the parking stall
> right next to his Ford Expedition SUV. It just happened that he left the
> empty cart at a handicap spot. This caused an old lady to get out of her
> car to move the cart after the idiot had drove off.
> I am not sure what the jerk in the SUV was made of, but it wouldn’t
> surprise me if his brain was filled with dog excrement. But then again,
> what can we expect from people driving super-size SUVs. They are no less
> than a bunch of urban terrorists!
Is your issue with SUV drivers or lazy Americans. Or maybe the fact you were
abused when growing up?
laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
>What system is that?
The cart is chained to the cart in front in the cart stand. To release it, you
must put a local coin worth ($1-$2) in a slot. To get your coin back, you return
the cart to the cart stand and plug it back into the cart in front.
Amy M., <rosebud1…@yahoo.com> was motivated to say this in
rec.autos.driving on Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:22:12 -0800:
> It never ceases to amaze me about how lazy and inconsiderate American
> shoppers are in the parking lots. My car gets several dents by rolling carts
> left by lazy shoppers, who wouldn’t take a couple of minutes to bring the
> cart back into the rack/stall.
Very few things that I see these days amaze me…
> In Europe the overhead cost on having grocery workers collecting carts in
> the parking lot was reduced, thanks to a very effective system. In the US, I
> have not seen one business adopt such system. Is this a cultural problem? I
There is little incentive for the business to have someone roundup the
carts except to prevent the loss of the carts themselves, and from my
observations, that is not a concern of most businesses.
> notice the lazyass people are more in abundance in the US. Sometime I saw a
> macho guy leaving the shopping cart at the parking stall right next to his
> Ford Expedition SUV. It just happened that he left the empty cart at a
> handicap spot. This caused an old lady to get out of her car to move the
> cart after the idiot had drove off.
> I am not sure what the jerk in the SUV was made of,
God only knows, and maybe it is best kept that way…
> but it wouldn’t surprise
> me if his brain was filled with dog excrement.
Good guess…
> But then again, what can we
> expect from people driving super-size SUVs. They are no less than a bunch of
> urban terrorists!
And I’ve seen luzers in Geo Metros do the same thing. What does that
make them, judy??
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2005, Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!! wrote:
> I have a great idea for this. Stores should charge a quarter for the use
> of the cart. Then refund the quarter when you return the cart to a
> designated stall.
That’s how it works at virtually every supermarket here in Toronto. Each
shopping cart has a little chain-and-slot device on the handlebar. There’s
a key at the end of the chain, which is just long enough to reach the next
cart when the cart has been nested into another cart. To obtain a cart,
you put a quarter in the coin slot, which pops the next cart’s key out of
your cart. When you’re finished with your cart, you put it in the stall,
and put the next cart’s key in your cart’s keyslot. Pop! You get your
quarter back.
There are almost never stray carts in the car park.
"Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarb…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I have a great idea for this. Stores should charge a quarter for the
> use of the cart. Then refund the quarter when you return the cart to a
> designated stall. Most are such penny pinchers, they would definately
> return the cart. Some may even grab other carts.
Aldi’s does that. There are still carts all over their parking lot.
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> lazy shoppers, who wouldn’t take a couple of minutes to bring
> the cart back
Probably
(a) they’re all out of puff after removing the outermost packaging and
protective styrofoam from large or bulk purchases and strewing it
around,
or
(b) the remains of their spilled or half-eaten food-court items have
left the cart too icky to deal with.
In some instances it is complicated by
(c) the person who has traffic backed up halfway to the street while
waiting for someone to leave Just The Right Parking Spot is making
things too crowded and dangerous to get back to the cart area.
> It just happened that he left the empty cart at a handicap spot.
Well, he *meant* to push it halfway up the curb right in front of his
own car like everybody else, but the sidewalk was already full of other
shopping carts.
Anyway, it’s good hard data for the social sciences. How far is too
far to go in extending courtesy to others in a public place? About
twenty feet on average, is my guess, if you’re pushing a shopping cart
at a big-box store.
Don’t even get me started on the people who abandon their dead
batteries, bleach bottles of presumed-toxic petroleumesque
who-knows-what, old tires, or in some cases their entire defunct car
(not to mention the ever present diaper)…
–Joe
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 05:21:04 GMT, laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2…@yahoo.com> was understood to have stated the following:
>A better solution is just to
>drive a beater like i do and then you don’t care.
Even if you were given a new car, your ineptitude behind the wheel
would result in it being a beater in no time. Perhaps if you learned
how to drive you wouldn’t be running into everything. You might
consider slowing down in school zones; you might main or kill some
poor kid. Is that why your car has so many dents in it? You’ve been
mowing down kids in your trailer park?
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On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Bill wrote:
> Yes, but it’s a pain to have to have a quarter to get a cart.
Only for thoughtless whiners (like you, apparently).
In article <1132294275.790613.41…@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!! wrote:
> I have a great idea for this. Stores should charge a quarter for the
> use of the cart. Then refund the quarter when you return the cart to a
> designated stall. Most are such penny pinchers, they would definately
> return the cart. Some may even grab other carts.
Ever shop where people steal carts?
I have, seen this system, it doesn’t really help much.
In article <Pine.GSO.4.63.0511181155000.1…@alumni.engin.umich.edu>, Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> That’s how it works at virtually every supermarket here in Toronto. Each
> shopping cart has a little chain-and-slot device on the handlebar. There’s
> a key at the end of the chain, which is just long enough to reach the next
> cart when the cart has been nested into another cart. To obtain a cart,
> you put a quarter in the coin slot, which pops the next cart’s key out of
> your cart. When you’re finished with your cart, you put it in the stall,
> and put the next cart’s key in your cart’s keyslot. Pop! You get your
> quarter back.
> There are almost never stray carts in the car park.
At the chicago grocery store I used to go to with that system many years
ago, instead of one cart floating, they’d float in pairs… or people
would just bust the mechanism.
Brent P wrote:
> In article <1132294275.790613.41…@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!! wrote:
> > I have a great idea for this. Stores should charge a quarter for the
> > use of the cart. Then refund the quarter when you return the cart to a
> > designated stall. Most are such penny pinchers, they would definately
> > return the cart. Some may even grab other carts.
> Ever shop where people steal carts?
> I have, seen this system, it doesn’t really help much.
Some stores have carts that lock up once you leave the parking lot.
And how do you know they’re "stealing" them? Maybe they just don’t have
cars and can’t carry the heavy groceries home w/o the aid of the cart.
I see people do this all the time and they don’t "steal" it, they leave
it on the curb for the cart collector to come pick it up.
Go back to where you came from…