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Feds urge cell-phone ban for teen drivers

Shoot – another of our rights being taken away.  When will the feds
realize that killing people with your car doesn’t count.  It’s just an
accident.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051121/NEWS10/511210…

Posted: 11/21/2005

Traffic safety experts say cell phones and teens are becoming an
increasingly dangerous combination on the highway, and now the
National Transportation Safety Board is urging states to ban cell
phone use by drivers younger than 18.

"We know that when you’re learning a skill, you should not be
distracted while you are doing it," said Mark Rosenker, acting
chairman of the safety board. "Anything that takes away from the total
focus of learning how to drive is a distraction."

Cells phones — which have been banned in cars in some states because
they distract the driver — are popular with Washoe County teens. A
Reno Gazette-Journal survey conducted five months ago found that more
than 90 percent of the 400 teen drivers interviewed said they have
driven while talking on one. Females do it more frequently than males,
the survey found.

(snip)

Eleven states and the District of Columbia have put limits on teens
using cell phones while they drive. At least 11 other states have
considered such laws, including Michigan, which is poised to ban
cell-phone use by drivers younger than 18.

And phones are just one of the distractions Washoe teens say they deal
with while driving. Many admitted they regularly chat with passengers
in the back seat, adjust the car stereo or program their iPod digital
music devices while negotiating Northern Nevada roads.

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47 Responses to “Feds urge cell-phone ban for teen drivers”

  1. admin says:

    laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

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    > Shoot – another of our rights being taken away.  When will the feds
    > realize that killing people with your car doesn’t count.  It’s just an
    > accident.

    > http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051121/NEWS10/511210

    > Posted: 11/21/2005

    > Traffic safety experts say cell phones and teens are becoming an
    > increasingly dangerous combination on the highway, and now the
    > National Transportation Safety Board is urging states to ban cell
    > phone use by drivers younger than 18.

    > "We know that when you’re learning a skill, you should not be
    > distracted while you are doing it," said Mark Rosenker, acting
    > chairman of the safety board. "Anything that takes away from the total
    > focus of learning how to drive is a distraction."

    > Cells phones — which have been banned in cars in some states because
    > they distract the driver — are popular with Washoe County teens. A
    > Reno Gazette-Journal survey conducted five months ago found that more
    > than 90 percent of the 400 teen drivers interviewed said they have
    > driven while talking on one. Females do it more frequently than males,
    > the survey found.

    > (snip)

    > Eleven states and the District of Columbia have put limits on teens
    > using cell phones while they drive. At least 11 other states have
    > considered such laws, including Michigan, which is poised to ban
    > cell-phone use by drivers younger than 18.

    > And phones are just one of the distractions Washoe teens say they deal
    > with while driving. Many admitted they regularly chat with passengers
    > in the back seat, adjust the car stereo or program their iPod digital
    > music devices while negotiating Northern Nevada roads.

    EXCELLENT idea, and one that should be extended to their relatives as
    well.

    Yesterday I observed a woman on the Dan Ryan trying to neogotiate a
    change into the fast
    lane while dialing and yapping.

    I just don’t get how people can allow themselves to be such a danger to
    themselves and others.

  2. admin says:

    moune_daw…@yahoo.com wrote:

    > Yesterday I observed a woman on the Dan Ryan trying to neogotiate a
    > change into the fast
    > lane while dialing and yapping.

    > I just don’t get how people can allow themselves to be such a danger to
    > themselves and others.

    Because they’re psychopaths with no conception of the rights of others
    and no concern for the safety of others. Same kind of people who think
    it’s cool that america has killed over a million iraqi CIVILIANS in the
    last 15 years. America is crawling with psychopaths.

  3. admin says:

    moune_daw…@yahoo.com, <moune_daw…@yahoo.com> was motivated to say
    this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:37:09 -0800:

    > I just don’t get how people can allow themselves to be such a danger to
    > themselves and others.

    The MFFY mentality.

  4. admin says:

    Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated
    to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:43:03 -0800:

    > America is crawling with psychopaths.

    If you want to see psycopath #1, look in a mirror.

  5. admin says:

    necromancer wrote:
    > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated
    > to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:43:03 -0800:
    > > America is crawling with psychopaths.

    > If you want to see psycopath #1, look in a mirror.

    Brilliant argument.

  6. admin says:

    laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

    > Shoot – another of our rights being taken away.  When will the feds
    > realize that killing people with your car doesn’t count.  It’s just an
    > accident.

    Maybe we shouldn’t let you leave your home, after all, you might kill
    someone.

  7. admin says:

    Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

    > necromancer wrote:
    > > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated
    > > to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:43:03 -0800:
    > > > America is crawling with psychopaths.

    > > If you want to see psycopath #1, look in a mirror.

    > Brilliant argument.

    But he does have a point.


    "Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."

    +-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"

  8. admin says:

    I think talking on cell phones should be illegal for all drivers.  I
    see it all the time and those people are a danger on the roads.

  9. admin says:

    Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

    > necromancer wrote:
    > > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated
    > > to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:43:03 -0800:
    > > > America is crawling with psychopaths.

    > > If you want to see psycopath #1, look in a mirror.

    > Brilliant argument.

    Truth hurts, doesn’t it cocksucker?

  10. admin says:

    That’s not nice

  11. admin says:

    mavman, <mavma…@yahoo.com> was motivated to say this in
    rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 12:23:31 -0800:

    > That’s not nice

    "nice???" In r.a.d.???

  12. admin says:

    Cleopatra, <Let_Em_Eat_Indictme…@hotmail.com> was motivated to say
    this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 13:43:41 -0800:

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    > X-No-archive: yes

    > Straight-Jacket Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

    > >Because they’re psychopaths with no conception of the rights of others
    > >and no concern for the safety of others. Same kind of people who think
    > >it’s cool that america has killed over a million iraqi CIVILIANS in the
    > >last 15 years. America is crawling with psychopaths.
    >                                ___________________________________

    > Jesus Christ! Only a million! Shit, Hussein killed far more than that
    > in Iraq and you Twinks adore the guy! Tell us, what is Bush doing
    > wrong? Maybe he should drop a few Fat Boys on their heads and you’ll
    > love him as much?

    You got to keep in mind that judy also denies that her buddy, hitler,
    killed anyone…


    "There’s not a shred of evidence that the jerries murdered anything
    close to 7 million jooz.  Another monstrous lie just like the 9-11
    official story. "

    – Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend, 12/01/2004
    Ref: http://tinyurl.com/9oog5
    Message-ID: <780ea958.0411302101.5ef25456@posting.google.com>

  13. admin says:

    On 21 Nov 2005 13:43:41 -0800, in misc.transport.road
    "Cleopatra" <Let_Em_Eat_Indictme…@hotmail.com> wrote in
    <1132609421.485093.323…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:

    >X-No-archive: yes

    >Straight-Jacket Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

    >>Because they’re psychopaths with no conception of the rights of others
    >>and no concern for the safety of others. Same kind of people who think
    >>it’s cool that america has killed over a million iraqi CIVILIANS in the
    >>last 15 years. America is crawling with psychopaths.
    >                               ___________________________________

    >Jesus Christ! Only a million! Shit, Hussein killed far more than that
    >in Iraq and you Twinks adore the guy! Tell us, what is Bush doing
    >wrong? Maybe he should drop a few Fat Boys on their heads and you’ll
    >love him as much?

    Who defends Saddam?

    Bush has no idea how to accomplish his goal. That’s why he keeps
    repeating his utterly meaningless phrase "stay the course". That’s why
    we are in danger of leaving Iraq with a civil war.

  14. admin says:

    TV’s Cleopatra wrote:
    > X-No-archive: yes

    > Straight-Jacket Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

    >>Because they’re psychopaths with no conception of the rights of others
    >>and no concern for the safety of others. Same kind of people who think
    >>it’s cool that america has killed over a million iraqi CIVILIANS in the
    >>last 15 years. America is crawling with psychopaths.
    >                               ___________________________________

    > Jesus Christ! Only a million! Shit, Hussein killed far more than that
    > in Iraq and you Twinks adore the guy! Tell us, what is Bush doing
    > wrong? Maybe he should drop a few Fat Boys on their heads and you’ll
    > love him as much?

    Why can’t we all agree that Saddam and Bush are both assholes?  

  15. admin says:

    Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

    > moune_daw…@yahoo.com wrote:

    > > Yesterday I observed a woman on the Dan Ryan trying to neogotiate a
    > > change into the fast
    > > lane while dialing and yapping.

    > > I just don’t get how people can allow themselves to be such a danger to
    > > themselves and others.

    > Because they’re psychopaths with no conception of the rights of others
    > and no concern for the safety of others. Same kind of people who think
    > it’s cool that america has killed over a million iraqi CIVILIANS in the
    > last 15 years. America is crawling with psychopaths.

    Perhaps if you learned how to read you wouldn’t be so misinformed.

  16. admin says:

    In article <1132613504.420382.233…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
    ILoveMySUV.dwp…@spamgourmet.com says…

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    >Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
    >> moune_daw…@yahoo.com wrote:

    >> > Yesterday I observed a woman on the Dan Ryan trying to neogotiate a
    >> > change into the fast
    >> > lane while dialing and yapping.

    >> > I just don’t get how people can allow themselves to be such a danger to
    >> > themselves and others.

    >> Because they’re psychopaths with no conception of the rights of others
    >> and no concern for the safety of others. Same kind of people who think
    >> it’s cool that america has killed over a million iraqi CIVILIANS in the
    >> last 15 years. America is crawling with psychopaths.

    >Perhaps if you learned how to read you wouldn’t be so misinformed.

    Nah, he’s a Holocaust denier.  He’s just a retard.


    Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women should have to fistfight with 210lb.
    rapists.

  17. admin says:

    On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:38:59 -0600, David Jensen

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    <da…@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
    >On 21 Nov 2005 13:43:41 -0800, in misc.transport.road
    >"Cleopatra" <Let_Em_Eat_Indictme…@hotmail.com> wrote in
    ><1132609421.485093.323…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:
    >>X-No-archive: yes

    >>Straight-Jacket Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

    >>>Because they’re psychopaths with no conception of the rights of others
    >>>and no concern for the safety of others. Same kind of people who think
    >>>it’s cool that america has killed over a million iraqi CIVILIANS in the
    >>>last 15 years. America is crawling with psychopaths.
    >>                               ___________________________________

    >>Jesus Christ! Only a million! Shit, Hussein killed far more than that
    >>in Iraq and you Twinks adore the guy! Tell us, what is Bush doing
    >>wrong? Maybe he should drop a few Fat Boys on their heads and you’ll
    >>love him as much?

    >Who defends Saddam?

    All you idiots who spew the party line from the ny times or cnn.

    >Bush has no idea how to accomplish his goal. That’s why he keeps
    >repeating his utterly meaningless phrase "stay the course". That’s why
    >we are in danger of leaving Iraq with a civil war.

    Gee, for someone wiht no idea how to accomplish his goal, I am
    confused as to how we are exactly where he said we would be, and how
    terrorism in the US has been non-existent, and how Iraq is a million
    times safer, and how so few Iraqis are getting hurt compared to when
    your butt buddy SH was in power.

  18. admin says:

    Rappin’ Ronnie Raygun, <watNOSPAM…@yahoo.com> was motivated to say
    this in rec.autos.driving on Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:45:06 -0600:

    > Why can’t we all agree that Saddam and Bush are both assholes?  

    Actually, I do agree with that assessment.

  19. admin says:

    laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

    > Females do it more frequently than males,
    > the survey found.

    Surprise !

    Graham

  20. admin says:

    On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:36:33 -0600, in misc.transport.road
    DTJ <n…@nowhere.com> wrote in
    <gtp4o1lvfs9618e9mhujdg417csmtkl…@4ax.com>:

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    >On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:38:59 -0600, David Jensen
    ><da…@dajensen-family.com> wrote:

    >>On 21 Nov 2005 13:43:41 -0800, in misc.transport.road
    >>"Cleopatra" <Let_Em_Eat_Indictme…@hotmail.com> wrote in
    >><1132609421.485093.323…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:
    >>>X-No-archive: yes

    >>>Straight-Jacket Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

    >>>>Because they’re psychopaths with no conception of the rights of others
    >>>>and no concern for the safety of others. Same kind of people who think
    >>>>it’s cool that america has killed over a million iraqi CIVILIANS in the
    >>>>last 15 years. America is crawling with psychopaths.
    >>>                               ___________________________________

    >>>Jesus Christ! Only a million! Shit, Hussein killed far more than that
    >>>in Iraq and you Twinks adore the guy! Tell us, what is Bush doing
    >>>wrong? Maybe he should drop a few Fat Boys on their heads and you’ll
    >>>love him as much?

    >>Who defends Saddam?

    >All you idiots who spew the party line from the ny times or cnn.

    Could you point to any CNN or NYTimes story that defended Saddam,
    please.

    >>Bush has no idea how to accomplish his goal. That’s why he keeps
    >>repeating his utterly meaningless phrase "stay the course". That’s why
    >>we are in danger of leaving Iraq with a civil war.

    >Gee, for someone wiht no idea how to accomplish his goal, I am
    >confused as to how we are exactly where he said we would be, and how
    >terrorism in the US has been non-existent, and how Iraq is a million
    >times safer, and how so few Iraqis are getting hurt compared to when
    >your butt buddy SH was in power.

    It’s nice for you that you cannot remember anything that Bush said in
    the past five years.

  21. admin says:

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    Chris Morton wrote:
    > In article <1132613504.420382.233…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
    > ILoveMySUV.dwp…@spamgourmet.com says…

    > >Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
    > >> moune_daw…@yahoo.com wrote:

    > >> > Yesterday I observed a woman on the Dan Ryan trying to neogotiate a
    > >> > change into the fast
    > >> > lane while dialing and yapping.

    > >> > I just don’t get how people can allow themselves to be such a danger to
    > >> > themselves and others.

    > >> Because they’re psychopaths with no conception of the rights of others
    > >> and no concern for the safety of others. Same kind of people who think
    > >> it’s cool that america has killed over a million iraqi CIVILIANS in the
    > >> last 15 years. America is crawling with psychopaths.

    > >Perhaps if you learned how to read you wouldn’t be so misinformed.

    > Nah, he’s a Holocaust denier.  He’s just a retard.

    Good point; thanks for correcting my momentary myopia.

  22. admin says:

    On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:31:37 +0000, Pooh Bear
    <rabbitsfriendsandrelati…@hotmail.com> was understood to have stated
    the following:

    >laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

    >> Females do it more frequently than males,
    >> the survey found.

    >Surprise !

    Welcome to the federal department of noting the obvious!

    "Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it’s homosexuallity:

    the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie.
    : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd

    Joshua Calvert <joshua_l_calv…@hotmail.com> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy":
    Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event.
    Message-ID: <Xns970A68202F1C5joshualcalverthotmai@68.6.19.6>

  23. admin says:

    bonnie.prisb…@gmail.com wrote:
    > I think talking on cell phones should be illegal for all drivers.  I
    > see it all the time and those people are a danger on the roads.

    It’s already illegal to drive dangerously.  Banning an inanimate object
    isn’t the answer.

  24. admin says:

    TV’s {STP} wrote:
    > In article <MbGdnSgBcsl20B_eRVn…@centurytel.net>,
    > "Rappin’ Ronnie Raygun" <watNOSPAM…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >> Why can’t we all agree that Saddam and Bush are both assholes?

    > I can agree that you and Saddam are assholes.

    And I can agree that I don’t give a rat’s ass what {STD} thinks about me.

  25. admin says:

    The whole idea of hybrids is stupid.  Just make cars smaller and leave
    out all the useless crap. Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

  26. admin says:

    Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated
    to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:35:24 -0800:

    > Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    > family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    > 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    <intro to business lesson>

    Then why don’t they?

    </intro to business lesson>

  27. admin says:

    Daniel J. Stern wrote:

    > No. My officemate has an ’03 Honda Civic hybrid. It started giving
    > problems on his way from Montreal to Toronto. The Integrated Motor
    > Assist system went offline, which also meant the SLI battery (Starting,
    > Lighting, Ignition — the conventional 12v item under the hood) was not
    > being charged. When he limped into the parking lot, his SLI battery read
    > 9.9v.

    Yep, this is the dirty little secret of hybrids.  They are going to be
    worthless after they hit the end of warranty period because the cost to
    replace the battery pack will exceed the value of the vehicle.

    Have people learning nothing from cell phones and laptop computers where
    failure to take a charge rechargeable batteries are often the death
    sentence?

    John

  28. admin says:

    "Idiot Conspiracist" <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > The whole idea of hybrids is stupid.  Just make cars smaller and leave
    > out all the useless crap. Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    > family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    > 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    And just plate it brass when the occasion arises and doubles as a neat-o
    coffin!  Holds a family of four to save plot space too!

    ;)


    Yeh, I’m a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my ‘smartass’ is the price
    you pay..DEAL with it!

  29. admin says:

    "John Horner" <jthor…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

    news:kNngf.2035$PC2.606@trnddc03…

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    > Daniel J. Stern wrote:

    >> No. My officemate has an ’03 Honda Civic hybrid. It started giving
    >> problems on his way from Montreal to Toronto. The Integrated Motor Assist
    >> system went offline, which also meant the SLI battery (Starting,
    >> Lighting, Ignition — the conventional 12v item under the hood) was not
    >> being charged. When he limped into the parking lot, his SLI battery read
    >> 9.9v.

    > Yep, this is the dirty little secret of hybrids.  They are going to be
    > worthless after they hit the end of warranty period because the cost to
    > replace the battery pack will exceed the value of the vehicle.

    > Have people learning nothing from cell phones and laptop computers where
    > failure to take a charge rechargeable batteries are often the death
    > sentence?

    > John

    Hold on there! I just bought a replacement battery for my Dell Inspiron –
    total cost $72. It was a little over two years old (a bit soon for failure
    IMHO). But the cost was only about 10-15% of the laptop’s resale value.
    Certainly no reason to trash it.

    Point being that IF the cost of a replacement battery pack for a hybrid was
    10-15% of the vehicle’s value at the time it was needed, the resale would
    not be so adversely affected. I admit, though, that the price is unlikely to
    drop to that level.

    Doug

  30. admin says:

    Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

    > The whole idea of hybrids is stupid.  Just make cars smaller and leave
    > out all the useless crap. Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    > family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    > 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    What the fuck would you know about routain maintenance, Mr. Drive a POS
    vehicle with bald tires and no dash lights?

  31. admin says:

    In article <1132594524.171967.66…@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
    xeton2…@yahoo.com says…

    >The whole idea of hybrids is stupid.  Just make cars smaller and leave
    >out all the useless crap.

    Holy shit, you are making sense.

    >Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    >family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    >250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    Then right on cue, you do a 180 and starting talking out of your ass.
    I suggest you go to China and drive an $8000 car.  I think you will be
    unpleasantly surprised.  

    Replacing steel with other materials could help bring the weight of cars
    down,  but the price is not going be anywhere near $8k.  
    —————
    Alex

  32. admin says:

    necromancer wrote:
    > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated
    > to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:35:24 -0800:
    > > Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    > > family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    > > 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    > <intro to business lesson>

    > Then why don’t they?

    Cause they make more selling the $50,000 cars with all sorts of
    useless gadgets. You think they sell AC and CD players and electric
    seats at cost??

  33. admin says:

    What would you expect form a guy that says Mrs. Bush murder someone?  LOL

    mike

    "necromancer" <necroman…@kretp.tmy> wrote in message

    news:MPG.1debd219d8a8cdf79896aa@newsgroups.bellsouth.net…

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated
    > to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:35:24 -0800:
    >> Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    >> family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    >> 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    > <intro to business lesson>

    > Then why don’t they?

    > </intro to business lesson>

  34. admin says:

    Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

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    > necromancer wrote:
    > > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated
    > > to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:35:24 -0800:
    > > > Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    > > > family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    > > > 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    > > <intro to business lesson>

    > > Then why don’t they?

    > Cause they make more selling the $50,000 cars with all sorts of
    > useless gadgets. You think they sell AC and CD players and electric
    > seats at cost??

    Have a good weekend at the bath house, pud licker?

  35. admin says:

    Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

    > The whole idea of hybrids is stupid.  Just make cars smaller and leave
    > out all the useless crap. Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    > family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    > 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    But then they wouldn’t be able to pay the salaries of those socialist
    UAW members, would they?

  36. admin says:

    On 21 Nov 2005 15:16:32 -0800, ILoveMySUV.dwp…@spamgourmet.com
    wrote:

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    >Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
    >> necromancer wrote:
    >> > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated
    >> > to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:35:24 -0800:
    >> > > Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    >> > > family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    >> > > 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    >> > <intro to business lesson>

    >> > Then why don’t they?

    >> Cause they make more selling the $50,000 cars with all sorts of
    >> useless gadgets. You think they sell AC and CD players and electric
    >> seats at cost??

    >Have a good weekend at the bath house, pud licker?

    Thank you for addressing the issue.

  37. admin says:

    On 21 Nov 2005 10:44:27 -0800, "Larry Bud" <larrybud2…@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    >Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
    >> The whole idea of hybrids is stupid.  Just make cars smaller and leave
    >> out all the useless crap. Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    >> family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    >> 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    >What the fuck would you know about routain maintenance, Mr. Drive a POS
    >vehicle with bald tires and no dash lights?

    I change the oil every 1500 miles and grease the front end every 1000.
    And i change the air filter and  plugs and rotor/cap every 10k or so.
    That’s what i’m talking about. My present vehicle has 190K on it and
    is as happy as a republican at a bathhouse.

  38. admin says:

    On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:11:50 -0500, Alex Rodriguez <a…@columbia.edu>
    wrote:

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    >In article <1132594524.171967.66…@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
    >xeton2…@yahoo.com says…
    >>The whole idea of hybrids is stupid.  Just make cars smaller and leave
    >>out all the useless crap.

    >Holy shit, you are making sense.

    >>Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    >>family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    >>250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    >Then right on cue, you do a 180 and starting talking out of your ass.
    >I suggest you go to China and drive an $8000 car.  I think you will be
    >unpleasantly surprised.  

    >Replacing steel with other materials could help bring the weight of cars
    >down,  but the price is not going be anywhere near $8k.  
    >—————
    >Alex

    I’m not talking about getting rid of steel just getting rid of all the
    useless expensive gadgets. Forget the AC, PS, PB, electric seats and
    windows. Leave out the radio-CD player and garbage like the trunk
    light and the notorious windshield washer fluid guage.

    Cars could be so much simpler than they are and they would cost much
    less and with fewer problems. But GM Ford, toyota and honda work
    together as a monopoly to give us this overpriced junk.

  39. admin says:

    On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:50:08 GMT, John Horner <jthor…@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    >Have people learning nothing from cell phones and laptop computers where
    >failure to take a charge rechargeable batteries are often the death
    >sentence?

    >John

    Ever hear of proofreading??

  40. admin says:

    On 21 Nov 2005 12:58:30 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"

    <xeton2…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >necromancer wrote:
    >> Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated
    >> to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:35:24 -0800:
    >> > Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    >> > family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    >> > 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    >> <intro to business lesson>

    >> Then why don’t they?

    Because they are too saddled with pension and health care obligations
    thanks to Organized Labor.

    >Cause they make more selling the $50,000 cars with all sorts of
    >useless gadgets. You think they sell AC and CD players and electric
    >seats at cost??

    Don’t forget the most useless gadgets of all: alarm systems…

  41. admin says:

    laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > On 21 Nov 2005 10:44:27 -0800, "Larry Bud" <larrybud2…@yahoo.com>
    > wrote:

    > >Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
    > >> The whole idea of hybrids is stupid.  Just make cars smaller and leave
    > >> out all the useless crap. Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    > >> family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    > >> 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    > >What the fuck would you know about routain maintenance, Mr. Drive a POS
    > >vehicle with bald tires and no dash lights?

    > I change the oil every 1500 miles and grease the front end every 1000.
    > And i change the air filter and  plugs and rotor/cap every 10k or so.
    > That’s what i’m talking about. My present vehicle has 190K on it and
    > is as happy as a republican at a bathhouse.

    Speaking at republicans at bath houses, remember this quote from one of
    your posts, faggot?

    the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. I get
    RESPECT now.
    :
    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd

  42. admin says:

    laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

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    > On 21 Nov 2005 15:16:32 -0800, ILoveMySUV.dwp…@spamgourmet.com
    > wrote:

    > >Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
    > >> necromancer wrote:
    > >> > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated
    > >> > to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:35:24 -0800:
    > >> > > Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    > >> > > family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    > >> > > 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    > >> > <intro to business lesson>

    > >> > Then why don’t they?

    > >> Cause they make more selling the $50,000 cars with all sorts of
    > >> useless gadgets. You think they sell AC and CD players and electric
    > >> seats at cost??

    > >Have a good weekend at the bath house, pud licker?

    > Thank you for addressing the issue.

    Just waiting for you to address it, homo.

    Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend (Xeton2…@yahoo.com)’s words of
    wisdom, love, and respect (spelling and grammatical errors left intact)

    the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. I get
    RESPECT now.
    :
    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd

  43. admin says:

    laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

    > On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:50:08 GMT, John Horner <jthor…@yahoo.com>
    > wrote:

    > >Have people learning nothing from cell phones and laptop computers where
    > >failure to take a charge rechargeable batteries are often the death
    > >sentence?

    > >John

    > Ever hear of proofreading??

    What would you know about the subject, faggot?

    Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend (Xeton2…@yahoo.com)’s words of
    wisdom, love, and respect (spelling and grammatical errors left intact)

    the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. I get
    RESPECT now.
    :
    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd

  44. admin says:

    laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > On 21 Nov 2005 15:16:32 -0800, ILoveMySUV.dwp…@spamgourmet.com
    > wrote:

    > >Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
    > >> necromancer wrote:
    > >> > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated
    > >> > to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 09:35:24 -0800:
    > >> > > Detroit could easily build a 2500 pound
    > >> > > family car that gives 40 mpg and costs $8,000 brand new and gives
    > >> > > 250,000 trouble-free miles on nothing but routine maintenance.

    > >> > <intro to business lesson>

    > >> > Then why don’t they?

    > >> Cause they make more selling the $50,000 cars with all sorts of
    > >> useless gadgets. You think they sell AC and CD players and electric
    > >> seats at cost??

    > >Have a good weekend at the bath house, pud licker?

    > Thank you for addressing the issue.

    Just maintaining your low standards, semen slurper.

  45. admin says:

    laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated to
    say this in rec.autos.driving on Tue, 22 Nov 2005 03:43:52 GMT:

    > I change the oil every 1500 miles and grease the front end every 1000.
    > And i change the air filter and  plugs and rotor/cap every 10k or so.
    > That’s what i’m talking about.

    How’s that emergency brake doing, psycho??


     Get back under your bridge, troll!

    "Hey stupid – I’ve tried to fix it and i can’t. The cable adjusting
    nuts are rusted solid."
    –Laura Bush – Vehicular Homicide (a.k.a. Laura Bush murdered her
      boyfriend, Pride of America, aunt millie and Judy Dairya,
      among others. See: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj),  
      6 Apr 2005 11:05:54 -0700
    Ref: or9851dpb7a4s8fduf7bf83gab02t9u…@4ax.com
    Ref: http://tinyurl.com/8exv3

  46. admin says:

    laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated to
    say this in rec.autos.driving on Tue, 22 Nov 2005 03:49:23 GMT:

    > I’m not talking about getting rid of steel just getting rid of all the
    > useless expensive gadgets. Forget the AC, PS, PB, electric seats and
    > windows. Leave out the radio-CD player and garbage like the trunk
    > light…

    and emergency brakes and tires with thread….


    "My tars have been bald for two years.  
    Every month i glue some sandpaper to them and
    everythings cool."

    –Laura Buch murdered her boyfriend
    / laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE 10/25/05

    Message ID: s2ttl1tgnpq5pr6p48lr111p3lnvr4b…@4ax.com
    http://tinyurl.com/7p7xq

  47. admin says:

    On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:14:41 -0500, necromancer
    <necroman…@kretp.tmy> was understood to have stated the following:

    >laura bush – VEHICULAR HOMICIDE, <xeton2…@yahoo.com> was motivated to
    >say this in rec.autos.driving on Tue, 22 Nov 2005 03:49:23 GMT:
    >> I’m not talking about getting rid of steel just getting rid of all the
    >> useless expensive gadgets. Forget the AC, PS, PB, electric seats and
    >> windows. Leave out the radio-CD player and garbage like the trunk
    >> light…

    >and emergency brakes and tires with thread….

    and speedometers….

    "Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it’s homosexuallity:

    the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie.
    : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd

    Joshua Calvert <joshua_l_calv…@hotmail.com> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy":
    Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event.
    Message-ID: <Xns970A68202F1C5joshualcalverthotmai@68.6.19.6>