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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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  Markus Bernd Biehl (gt19...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; I am currently in the process of buying a used car. &#160;Due to its nbeatable &lt;br&gt; &gt; price, I consider getting a Hyundai Excel. &#160;Although Consumer Report wrote &lt;br&gt; &gt; bad things about with passion, I don&#039;t believe that this car can be so &lt;br&gt; &gt; inferior. &lt;br&gt; &gt; Do you have good or bad experience with 1987 - 1989 Excels? &#160;Please report &lt;br&gt; &gt; about it. &#160;It should be a rather interesting topic. &lt;br&gt; &gt; Thanks, &lt;br&gt; &gt; Markus &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;I used to have an Excels when they first started to import it to the US. &lt;br&gt; I hit a large rock which ripped out the right front wheel and did a lot of &lt;br&gt; structural damage to the frame. &#160;Funny thing is the structural damage somehow &lt;br&gt; caused part of the roof top to cave in. &#160;We could not explain otherwise how &lt;br&gt; the cave in happened as there is not a single scratch on the roof top. &lt;br&gt; In a (wicked) sense, it was good as I was trying to get rid of the car and &lt;br&gt; the insurance company gave me $5,200.00 for it. &#160;In case anybody is interested &lt;br&gt; I was insured with AllState in NJ. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; &#160;Toan Tran &lt;br&gt; &#160;Hewlett Packard, California Design Center &lt;br&gt; &#160;t...@cdc.hp.com &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Markus Bernd Biehl (gt19&#8230;@prism.gatech.edu) wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt; I am currently in the process of buying a used car. &nbsp;Due to its nbeatable <br /> &gt; price, I consider getting a Hyundai Excel. &nbsp;Although Consumer Report wrote <br /> &gt; bad things about with passion, I don&#8217;t believe that this car can be so <br /> &gt; inferior. <br /> &gt; Do you have good or bad experience with 1987 &#8211; 1989 Excels? &nbsp;Please report <br /> &gt; about it. &nbsp;It should be a rather interesting topic. <br /> &gt; Thanks, <br /> &gt; Markus </p>
<p>I used to have an Excels when they first started to import it to the US. <br /> I hit a large rock which ripped out the right front wheel and did a lot of <br /> structural damage to the frame. &nbsp;Funny thing is the structural damage somehow <br /> caused part of the roof top to cave in. &nbsp;We could not explain otherwise how <br /> the cave in happened as there is not a single scratch on the roof top. <br /> In a (wicked) sense, it was good as I was trying to get rid of the car and <br /> the insurance company gave me $5,200.00 for it. &nbsp;In case anybody is interested <br /> I was insured with AllState in NJ.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> &nbsp;Toan Tran <br /> &nbsp;Hewlett Packard, California Design Center <br /> &nbsp;t&#8230;@cdc.hp.com </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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  My parents had an &#039;88 Excel for a while, and I wouldn&#039;t recommend them &lt;br&gt; (at least, not that model year). &#160;The engine with automatic trans. was &lt;br&gt; very underpowered (especially for hilly New Hampshire). &#160;Also, I agree &lt;br&gt; with one of the other posters on this thread that the car seemed to be &lt;br&gt; straining at highway speeds (even reaching 60mph was a challenge at &lt;br&gt; times). &#160;Further, the car seemed like it was starting to develop &lt;br&gt; several serious mechanical problems after only about 50,000 &lt;br&gt; well-maintained highway miles. For one thing, it was overheating in &lt;br&gt; warm weather, and seemed to lose coolant constantly without any &lt;br&gt; obvious external leaks. &#160;If I knew then what I know now, I would have &lt;br&gt; suspected a cracked cylinder head. &#160;(I have an &#039;89 Escort to thank for &lt;br&gt; that bit of automotive education, but I digress...:-) ) There were &lt;br&gt; also some problems with brake rotors and such. &#160;Stay away, unless you &lt;br&gt; get a really great deal, and just need a cheap backup car. &#160;All IMHO, &lt;br&gt; of course. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Paul &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; Paul Secinaro &lt;br&gt; p...@kepler.unh.edu &lt;br&gt; Synthetic Vision and Pattern Analysis Laboratory &lt;br&gt; UNH Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents had an &#8217;88 Excel for a while, and I wouldn&#8217;t recommend them <br /> (at least, not that model year). &nbsp;The engine with automatic trans. was <br /> very underpowered (especially for hilly New Hampshire). &nbsp;Also, I agree <br /> with one of the other posters on this thread that the car seemed to be <br /> straining at highway speeds (even reaching 60mph was a challenge at <br /> times). &nbsp;Further, the car seemed like it was starting to develop <br /> several serious mechanical problems after only about 50,000 <br /> well-maintained highway miles. For one thing, it was overheating in <br /> warm weather, and seemed to lose coolant constantly without any <br /> obvious external leaks. &nbsp;If I knew then what I know now, I would have <br /> suspected a cracked cylinder head. &nbsp;(I have an &#8217;89 Escort to thank for <br /> that bit of automotive education, but I digress&#8230;:-) ) There were <br /> also some problems with brake rotors and such. &nbsp;Stay away, unless you <br /> get a really great deal, and just need a cheap backup car. &nbsp;All IMHO, <br /> of course. <br /> 
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<p>&#8211; <br /> Paul Secinaro <br /> <a href="mailto:p...@kepler.unh.edu">p&#8230;@kepler.unh.edu</a> <br /> Synthetic Vision and Pattern Analysis Laboratory <br /> UNH Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160;Well I &quot;inheritated&quot; a Precis (Mitsubishi&#039;s version) and though it &lt;br&gt; has been abused it is still running strong at 130,000+. I use it for &lt;br&gt; work, and it hauls around 500-600 lbs of paper in back. It doens&#039;t have a &lt;br&gt; lot of power, but the basic engine is a good one (I think they slap a &lt;br&gt; cheep carb on it). It did need a new altinator, some transmission work &lt;br&gt; (not real expensive) and uses a little oil these days. Not a fancy car, &lt;br&gt; but it is real cheap. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;--Roger &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Well I &quot;inheritated&quot; a Precis (Mitsubishi&#8217;s version) and though it <br /> has been abused it is still running strong at 130,000+. I use it for <br /> work, and it hauls around 500-600 lbs of paper in back. It doens&#8217;t have a <br /> lot of power, but the basic engine is a good one (I think they slap a <br /> cheep carb on it). It did need a new altinator, some transmission work <br /> (not real expensive) and uses a little oil these days. Not a fancy car, <br /> but it is real cheap.  </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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  Yeah, rode in one and it felt like shit. &#160;Also felt like it was gonna &lt;br&gt; fall apart in the middle of the road. &#160; &lt;br&gt; I&#039;ve also seen tests on the bumpers and they crunch easily because they are &lt;br&gt; plastic. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Markus Bernd Biehl (gt19...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote: &lt;br&gt; : I am currently in the process of buying a used car. &#160;Due to its nbeatable &lt;br&gt; : price, I consider getting a Hyundai Excel. &#160;Although Consumer Report wrote &lt;br&gt; : bad things about with passion, I don&#039;t believe that this car can be so &lt;br&gt; : inferior. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;: Do you have good or bad experience with 1987 - 1989 Excels? &#160;Please report &lt;br&gt; : about it. &#160;It should be a rather interesting topic. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;: Thanks, &lt;br&gt; : Markus &lt;br&gt; : -- &lt;br&gt; : Markus Bernd Biehl, Opns Mgt, Ga Tech &lt;br&gt; : 31944 Ga Tech Stn, Atlanta, GA 30332 &lt;br&gt; : Internet: gt19...@prism.gatech.edu &lt;br&gt; : uucp: &#160; &#160;...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1944b &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, rode in one and it felt like shit. &nbsp;Also felt like it was gonna <br /> fall apart in the middle of the road. &nbsp; <br /> I&#8217;ve also seen tests on the bumpers and they crunch easily because they are <br /> plastic. <br /> 
<p>Markus Bernd Biehl (gt19&#8230;@prism.gatech.edu) wrote: <br /> : I am currently in the process of buying a used car. &nbsp;Due to its nbeatable <br /> : price, I consider getting a Hyundai Excel. &nbsp;Although Consumer Report wrote <br /> : bad things about with passion, I don&#8217;t believe that this car can be so <br /> : inferior.  </p>
<p>: Do you have good or bad experience with 1987 &#8211; 1989 Excels? &nbsp;Please report <br /> : about it. &nbsp;It should be a rather interesting topic.  </p>
<p>: Thanks, <br /> : Markus <br /> : &#8212; <br /> : Markus Bernd Biehl, Opns Mgt, Ga Tech <br /> : 31944 Ga Tech Stn, Atlanta, GA 30332 <br /> : Internet: <a href="mailto:gt19...@prism.gatech.edu">gt19&#8230;@prism.gatech.edu</a> <br /> : uucp: &nbsp; &nbsp;&#8230;!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1944b </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;301bvg$...@acmez.gatech.edu&gt; gt19...@prism.gatech.edu (Markus Bernd Biehl) writes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;}I am currently in the process of buying a used car. &#160;Due to its nbeatable &lt;br&gt; }price, I consider getting a Hyundai Excel. &#160;Although Consumer Report wrote &lt;br&gt; }bad things about with passion, I don&#039;t believe that this car can be so &lt;br&gt; }inferior. &lt;br&gt; } &lt;br&gt; }Do you have good or bad experience with 1987 - 1989 Excels? &#160;Please report &lt;br&gt; }about it. &#160;It should be a rather interesting topic. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;I drove an &#039;87 Precis (Excel with Mitsubishi label). &#160;If you don&#039;t &lt;br&gt; mind having absolutely no power at all, and being able to approach &lt;br&gt; 75mph only asymptotically, it might be a FINE car. &#160; Granted, I was &lt;br&gt; driving it in Braddock Heights, MD (which isn&#039;t at a very high &lt;br&gt; altitude, but still enough to affect car performance), but it is still &lt;br&gt; pretty bad. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; Matthew T. Russotto &#160; &#160; russo...@eng.umd.edu &lt;br&gt; Some news readers expect &quot;Disclaimer:&quot; here. &lt;br&gt; Just say NO to police searches and seizures. &#160;Make them use force. &lt;br&gt; (not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice) &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;301bvg$&#8230;@acmez.gatech.edu&gt; <a href="mailto:gt19...@prism.gatech.edu">gt19&#8230;@prism.gatech.edu</a> (Markus Bernd Biehl) writes: <br /> 
<p>}I am currently in the process of buying a used car. &nbsp;Due to its nbeatable <br /> }price, I consider getting a Hyundai Excel. &nbsp;Although Consumer Report wrote <br /> }bad things about with passion, I don&#8217;t believe that this car can be so <br /> }inferior. <br /> } <br /> }Do you have good or bad experience with 1987 &#8211; 1989 Excels? &nbsp;Please report <br /> }about it. &nbsp;It should be a rather interesting topic. </p>
<p>I drove an &#8217;87 Precis (Excel with Mitsubishi label). &nbsp;If you don&#8217;t <br /> mind having absolutely no power at all, and being able to approach <br /> 75mph only asymptotically, it might be a FINE car. &nbsp; Granted, I was <br /> driving it in Braddock Heights, MD (which isn&#8217;t at a very high <br /> altitude, but still enough to affect car performance), but it is still <br /> pretty bad.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> Matthew T. Russotto &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="mailto:russo...@eng.umd.edu">russo&#8230;@eng.umd.edu</a> <br /> Some news readers expect &quot;Disclaimer:&quot; here. <br /> Just say NO to police searches and seizures. &nbsp;Make them use force. <br /> (not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice) </p>
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  I work in the car business. Stay away from a Hyundai. What you save in purchase &lt;br&gt; price will soon be more than offset by repair bills. There is a reason they are &lt;br&gt; so cheap. They are terrible cars. &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;Do you have good or bad experience with 1987 - 1989 Excels? &#160;Please report &lt;br&gt; &gt;about it. &#160;It should be a rather interesting topic. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&#160; The happiest moment I had with my &#039;89 Excel was when I left it behind &lt;br&gt; at the dealer after trading it in. &#160;Although the car was inexpensive, it &lt;br&gt; was easily the worst made, worst handling, worst performing car I have &lt;br&gt; ever driven. &lt;br&gt; &#160; When I traded it in (for an Acura) the dealer (who also sold &lt;br&gt; Hyundai&#039;s) offered very little, saying, &quot;You know, the Hyundai is a more &lt;br&gt; or less DISPOSABLE car.&quot; &lt;br&gt; &#160; My advice: fork over a few extra dollars for a tercel or sentra. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Harry G. &lt;br&gt;
  
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<p>&gt;Do you have good or bad experience with 1987 &#8211; 1989 Excels? &nbsp;Please report <br /> &gt;about it. &nbsp;It should be a rather interesting topic. </p>
<p>&nbsp; The happiest moment I had with my &#8217;89 Excel was when I left it behind <br /> at the dealer after trading it in. &nbsp;Although the car was inexpensive, it <br /> was easily the worst made, worst handling, worst performing car I have <br /> ever driven. <br /> &nbsp; When I traded it in (for an Acura) the dealer (who also sold <br /> Hyundai&#8217;s) offered very little, saying, &quot;You know, the Hyundai is a more <br /> or less DISPOSABLE car.&quot; <br /> &nbsp; My advice: fork over a few extra dollars for a tercel or sentra.  </p>
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  In article &lt;301bvg$...@acmez.gatech.edu&gt; gt19...@prism.gatech.edu (Markus Bernd Biehl) writes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;I am currently in the process of buying a used car. &#160;Due to its nbeatable &lt;br&gt; &gt;price, I consider getting a Hyundai Excel. &#160;etc.. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Ne touchez pas!, at least as far as the earlier models are concerned. My &lt;br&gt; brother used to own the local Hyundai dealership, so my sister felt that &lt;br&gt; she would get a new Excel from him. She has never had poorer luck with a &lt;br&gt; car, despite keeping up with the basic maintenance requirements and &lt;br&gt; having all work done at the dealer...I was able to resist the &lt;br&gt; &#039;obligation&#039; and purchased a Saturn (flame-bait?), and haven&#039;t regretted &lt;br&gt; the decision for a moment (double flame-bait??). &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Brian &#160; &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;301bvg$&#8230;@acmez.gatech.edu&gt; <a href="mailto:gt19...@prism.gatech.edu">gt19&#8230;@prism.gatech.edu</a> (Markus Bernd Biehl) writes: <br /> 
<p>&gt;I am currently in the process of buying a used car. &nbsp;Due to its nbeatable <br /> &gt;price, I consider getting a Hyundai Excel. &nbsp;etc.. </p>
<p>Ne touchez pas!, at least as far as the earlier models are concerned. My <br /> brother used to own the local Hyundai dealership, so my sister felt that <br /> she would get a new Excel from him. She has never had poorer luck with a <br /> car, despite keeping up with the basic maintenance requirements and <br /> having all work done at the dealer&#8230;I was able to resist the <br /> &#8216;obligation&#8217; and purchased a Saturn (flame-bait?), and haven&#8217;t regretted <br /> the decision for a moment (double flame-bait??).  </p>
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