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Bushnell Speedster II & Velocity radar guns – Info needed.

Hi all,

Just wanted to get a quick confirmation about the Bushnell Speedster II
and Velocity model radar guns.   I’m a security director for a
subdivision that has a public road running on the periphery of the
properties..   Would either of these Bushnell models trigger an
automobile radar detector for purposes of getting their attention?  
We’ve had 2 kids recently almost hit and there are already signs posted
and all.

This item would not be used for any other purposes than that.

thanks!

.
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22 Responses to “Bushnell Speedster II & Velocity radar guns – Info needed.”

  1. admin says:

    "Marc" <n…@all.com> wrote in message

    news:MPG.1e91f6efb5de019e9896ac@netnews.mchsi.com…

    > Hi all,

    > Just wanted to get a quick confirmation about the Bushnell Speedster II
    > and Velocity model radar guns.   I’m a security director for a
    > subdivision that has a public road running on the periphery of the
    > properties..   Would either of these Bushnell models trigger an
    > automobile radar detector for purposes of getting their attention?
    > We’ve had 2 kids recently almost hit and there are already signs posted
    > and all.

    > This item would not be used for any other purposes than that.

    > thanks!

    I think if someone kills a child while driving recklessly, they should be
    charged and convicted of murder, not "vehicular manslaughter".  HOWEVER, the
    solution to your problem is a lot more simple than throwing dangerous
    drivers in jail or tricking them with false radar sources . . .

    How about keeping the children off the fricking road, Mr. Security Director?
    Doesn’t that make a helluva lot more sense?  The road is (as you said)
    public, so it is right to expect (duh!) people to be driving on it.  And,
    even if those drivers who ARE going to be on the road are driving the EXACT
    posted speed limit, there is still going to be a potential conflict of
    vehicle vs. pedestrian, if the children are illegally using the public road
    as a playground.

    In short, you are doing NOTHING to address the real problem.  Post a cop
    with a real radar gun every block or so and the problem will STILL exist,
    unless the cops also keep the children off the road.  But then, as you are
    the security director, the cops would probably say that it’s YOUR job to
    keep the children off the road.  -Dave

  2. admin says:

    In article <4428441a$0$64670$892e7…@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
    he…@howyadoin.now says…

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    > "Marc" <n…@all.com> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.1e91f6efb5de019e9896ac@netnews.mchsi.com…
    > > Hi all,

    > > Just wanted to get a quick confirmation about the Bushnell Speedster II
    > > and Velocity model radar guns.   I’m a security director for a
    > > subdivision that has a public road running on the periphery of the
    > > properties..   Would either of these Bushnell models trigger an
    > > automobile radar detector for purposes of getting their attention?
    > > We’ve had 2 kids recently almost hit and there are already signs posted
    > > and all.

    > > This item would not be used for any other purposes than that.

    > > thanks!

    > I think if someone kills a child while driving recklessly, they should be
    > charged and convicted of murder, not "vehicular manslaughter".  HOWEVER, the
    > solution to your problem is a lot more simple than throwing dangerous
    > drivers in jail or tricking them with false radar sources . . .

    > How about keeping the children off the fricking road, Mr. Security Director?
    > Doesn’t that make a helluva lot more sense?  The road is (as you said)
    > public, so it is right to expect (duh!) people to be driving on it.  And,
    > even if those drivers who ARE going to be on the road are driving the EXACT
    > posted speed limit, there is still going to be a potential conflict of
    > vehicle vs. pedestrian, if the children are illegally using the public road
    > as a playground.

    > In short, you are doing NOTHING to address the real problem.  Post a cop
    > with a real radar gun every block or so and the problem will STILL exist,
    > unless the cops also keep the children off the road.  But then, as you are
    > the security director, the cops would probably say that it’s YOUR job to
    > keep the children off the road.  -Dave

    plonk

  3. admin says:

    In article <MPG.1e92006871f3f9d3989…@netnews.mchsi.com>, Marc wrote:
    >> In short, you are doing NOTHING to address the real problem.  Post a cop
    >> with a real radar gun every block or so and the problem will STILL exist,
    >> unless the cops also keep the children off the road.  But then, as you are
    >> the security director, the cops would probably say that it’s YOUR job to
    >> keep the children off the road.  -Dave
    > plonk

    He’s correct. Drivers could all be doing 25mph and the kid jumps out
    between parked cars or whatever 3 feet in front a driver’s car and gets
    hit. He’s just as dead/hurt as the kid who jumped out a little further
    ahead of the car going 30mph that was able to brake to the same speed as
    the 25mph one before the collision.

    The only way one can make it safe for kids to play on the street is to
    elimintate all vehicles (including bicycles) from the road. Practically
    any speed is ‘too fast’ for a vehicle-ped collision and you’ll have close
    calls regardless of speed.

    Yes, I obey residential speed limits and expect others to as well. They
    represent the majority of correctly set speed limits in the USA. However,
    speed enforcement is not going to correct your problem. Only getting the
    kids out of the road will.

  4. admin says:

    Marc wrote:
    > Hi all,

    > Just wanted to get a quick confirmation about the Bushnell Speedster II
    > and Velocity model radar guns.   I’m a security director for a
    > subdivision that has a public road running on the periphery of the
    > properties..   Would either of these Bushnell models trigger an
    > automobile radar detector for purposes of getting their attention?
    > We’ve had 2 kids recently almost hit and there are already signs posted
    > and all.

    They probably would, but a pedestrian getting hit by an automobile
    going the posted limit will still end up seriously injured or dead.  It
    would be best to try to keep children away from the public road.

    The other option would be to close off one end of the road so that it
    cannot be used by through traffic (but I don’t know if that would be
    legal in your case).  The other problem is that most drivers don’t
    bother using radar detectors, so your tactic will have no effect on
    their speeds.

  5. admin says:

    Best way is to test your hypothesis on a radar detector.
    The band is also relevant. If it is emitting on the K-band
    nobody will care. It’s best if it is in the Ka band.

  6. admin says:

    Marc <n…@all.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.1e91f6efb5de019e9896ac@netnews.mchsi.com:

    > Hi all,

    > Just wanted to get a quick confirmation about the Bushnell Speedster II
    > and Velocity model radar guns.   I’m a security director for a
    > subdivision that has a public road running on the periphery of the
    > properties..   Would either of these Bushnell models trigger an
    > automobile radar detector for purposes of getting their attention?  
    > We’ve had 2 kids recently almost hit and there are already signs posted
    > and all.

    > This item would not be used for any other purposes than that.

    > thanks!

    This purpose would be illegal.


    Jim Yanik
    jyanik
    at
    kua.net

  7. admin says:

    "Mike T." <he…@howyadoin.now> wrote in
    news:4428441a$0$64670$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net:

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    > "Marc" <n…@all.com> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.1e91f6efb5de019e9896ac@netnews.mchsi.com…
    >> Hi all,

    >> Just wanted to get a quick confirmation about the Bushnell Speedster
    >> II and Velocity model radar guns.   I’m a security director for a
    >> subdivision that has a public road running on the periphery of the
    >> properties..   Would either of these Bushnell models trigger an
    >> automobile radar detector for purposes of getting their attention?
    >> We’ve had 2 kids recently almost hit and there are already signs
    >> posted and all.

    >> This item would not be used for any other purposes than that.

    >> thanks!

    > I think if someone kills a child while driving recklessly, they should
    > be charged and convicted of murder, not "vehicular manslaughter".
    > HOWEVER, the solution to your problem is a lot more simple than
    > throwing dangerous drivers in jail or tricking them with false radar
    > sources . . .

    Which is illegal;you cannot transmit for the purpose of setting off a radar
    detector.

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    > How about keeping the children off the fricking road, Mr. Security
    > Director? Doesn’t that make a helluva lot more sense?  The road is (as
    > you said) public, so it is right to expect (duh!) people to be driving
    > on it.  And, even if those drivers who ARE going to be on the road are
    > driving the EXACT posted speed limit, there is still going to be a
    > potential conflict of vehicle vs. pedestrian, if the children are
    > illegally using the public road as a playground.

    > In short, you are doing NOTHING to address the real problem.  Post a
    > cop with a real radar gun every block or so and the problem will STILL
    > exist, unless the cops also keep the children off the road.  But then,
    > as you are the security director, the cops would probably say that
    > it’s YOUR job to keep the children off the road.  -Dave

    Kids can and will dart out in front of a car -doing the speed limit- and
    get crunched,too. Keep your kids away from traffic.Put up a fence.


    Jim Yanik
    jyanik
    at
    kua.net

  8. admin says:

    In article <Xns9793C5B0B598Cjyanikkua…@129.250.170.85>,
    jya…@abuse.gov says…

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    > Marc <n…@all.com> wrote in
    > news:MPG.1e91f6efb5de019e9896ac@netnews.mchsi.com:

    > > Hi all,

    > > Just wanted to get a quick confirmation about the Bushnell Speedster II
    > > and Velocity model radar guns.   I’m a security director for a
    > > subdivision that has a public road running on the periphery of the
    > > properties..   Would either of these Bushnell models trigger an
    > > automobile radar detector for purposes of getting their attention?  
    > > We’ve had 2 kids recently almost hit and there are already signs posted
    > > and all.

    > > This item would not be used for any other purposes than that.

    > > thanks!

    > This purpose would be illegal.

    Please elaborate on that comment.  Cite verifiable facts, links, etc.  

  9. admin says:

    On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:00:42 GMT, Marc <n…@all.com> wrote:

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    >> I think if someone kills a child while driving recklessly, they should be
    >> charged and convicted of murder, not "vehicular manslaughter".  HOWEVER, the
    >> solution to your problem is a lot more simple than throwing dangerous
    >> drivers in jail or tricking them with false radar sources . . .

    >> How about keeping the children off the fricking road, Mr. Security Director?
    >> Doesn’t that make a helluva lot more sense?  The road is (as you said)
    >> public, so it is right to expect (duh!) people to be driving on it.  And,
    >> even if those drivers who ARE going to be on the road are driving the EXACT
    >> posted speed limit, there is still going to be a potential conflict of
    >> vehicle vs. pedestrian, if the children are illegally using the public road
    >> as a playground.

    >> In short, you are doing NOTHING to address the real problem.  Post a cop
    >> with a real radar gun every block or so and the problem will STILL exist,
    >> unless the cops also keep the children off the road.  But then, as you are
    >> the security director, the cops would probably say that it’s YOUR job to
    >> keep the children off the road.  -Dave
    >plonk

    How cool, a troll posting how he plonked someone.

    Oh by the way, I hope every drunk in your state drives by and takes
    out the stupid ass kids who play in the street one by one.

    Can’t waaaaiiiiiiittttt to hear you plonk me.

    *************************
    Dave

  10. admin says:

    In article <82eh22p2jdaa88i52sphe4ers395h2p…@4ax.com>,
    scottenazt…@yahoo.com says…
    > On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:00:42 GMT, Marc <n…@all.com> wrote:

    > >> How about keeping the children off the fricking road, Mr. Security Director?  

    > >plonk

    > He has a valid point, you fucking moron. Kids should be playing in a
    > park, not in the street.

    > Go ahead and PLONK me, too, since you obviously have no rational
    > response to give.

    hmm never said they were in the street did I?  Idiot.  Just not too cool
    to have kids on a sidewalk just a couple of feet from speeding
    commercial vehicles and teenagers that just got their license.

    Not going to bother plonking, just unsubscribe works better when you
    have immature idiots like I’ve found here.   You’re the kinds that I
    laugh at when I see someone pulled over and getting written.

    I got my answer, which is what I came here for.

    unsubscribing we go.

  11. admin says:

    > hmm never said they were in the street did I?  Idiot.  Just not too cool
    > to have kids on a sidewalk just a couple of feet from speeding
    > commercial vehicles and teenagers that just got their license.

    > Not going to bother plonking, just unsubscribe works better when you
    > have immature idiots like I’ve found here.   You’re the kinds that I
    > laugh at when I see someone pulled over and getting written.

    Actually, I’m the person who posted that you should keep the kids off the
    fricking street.  Averaging well over 70,000 miles a year behind the wheel,
    my driving record is spotless for well over 20 years, and I’ve got written
    proof of that.  You don’t have to be a bad driver to know that children and
    traffic OF ANY SPEED is a BAD combination.  Many good drivers will echo the
    sentiment that you should keep the children off the fricking road.  The
    problem is, the children are too near the road.  Don’t try to fix that
    problem by thinking up creative ways to possibly get drivers to slow down.
    FIX THE PROBLEM.  -Dave

  12. admin says:

    223rem wrote:
    > Best way is to test your hypothesis on a radar detector.
    > The band is also relevant. If it is emitting on the K-band
    > nobody will care. It’s best if it is in the Ka band.

    The Bushnell Speedster isn’t either.  It’s laser

    "Laser radar gun with +/- 1 mph / 1 kph  accuracy"

    I would imagine the other one is also laser.  I would think it’s
    probably illegal for a consumer to own a radar unit on the same band as
    police.

  13. admin says:

    Marc <n…@all.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.1e924a434a0385309896ae@netnews.mchsi.com:

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    > In article <Xns9793C5B0B598Cjyanikkua…@129.250.170.85>,
    > jya…@abuse.gov says…
    >> Marc <n…@all.com> wrote in
    >> news:MPG.1e91f6efb5de019e9896ac@netnews.mchsi.com:

    >> > Hi all,

    >> > Just wanted to get a quick confirmation about the Bushnell
    >> > Speedster II and Velocity model radar guns.   I’m a security
    >> > director for a subdivision that has a public road running on the
    >> > periphery of the properties..   Would either of these Bushnell
    >> > models trigger an automobile radar detector for purposes of getting
    >> > their attention?  We’ve had 2 kids recently almost hit and there
    >> > are already signs posted and all.

    >> > This item would not be used for any other purposes than that.

    >> > thanks!

    >> This purpose would be illegal.

    > Please elaborate on that comment.  Cite verifiable facts, links, etc.

    Years ago,some guy developed a simple "radar detector tester" that broacast
    a low power signal with harmonics that would trigger both X and K band
    detectors.
    Other people jumped on it and made "jammers",devices made expressly for
    setting off RDs,to "slow speeders down" by making them brake for a RD
    alert.
    The FCC stepped in and declared them illegal.
    Those freqs have been assigned solely for speed measurement purposes.
    The point is that you are not allowed to use any transmitter for the
    purpose of "setting off a RD".

    Besides,I believe you have to have a license to operate any transmitter in
    those freqs.


    Jim Yanik
    jyanik
    at
    kua.net

  14. admin says:

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    Jim Yanik wrote:
    > Marc <n…@all.com> wrote in
    > news:MPG.1e924a434a0385309896ae@netnews.mchsi.com:

    > > In article <Xns9793C5B0B598Cjyanikkua…@129.250.170.85>,
    > > jya…@abuse.gov says…
    > >> Marc <n…@all.com> wrote in
    > >> news:MPG.1e91f6efb5de019e9896ac@netnews.mchsi.com:

    > >> > Hi all,

    > >> > Just wanted to get a quick confirmation about the Bushnell
    > >> > Speedster II and Velocity model radar guns.   I’m a security
    > >> > director for a subdivision that has a public road running on the
    > >> > periphery of the properties..   Would either of these Bushnell
    > >> > models trigger an automobile radar detector for purposes of getting
    > >> > their attention?  We’ve had 2 kids recently almost hit and there
    > >> > are already signs posted and all.

    > >> > This item would not be used for any other purposes than that.

    > >> > thanks!

    > >> This purpose would be illegal.

    > > Please elaborate on that comment.  Cite verifiable facts, links, etc.

    > Years ago,some guy developed a simple "radar detector tester" that broacast
    > a low power signal with harmonics that would trigger both X and K band
    > detectors.
    > Other people jumped on it and made "jammers",devices made expressly for
    > setting off RDs,to "slow speeders down" by making them brake for a RD
    > alert.
    > The FCC stepped in and declared them illegal.
    > Those freqs have been assigned solely for speed measurement purposes.
    > The point is that you are not allowed to use any transmitter for the
    > purpose of "setting off a RD".

    > Besides,I believe you have to have a license to operate any transmitter in
    > those freqs.

    That covers the etc., I guess.  Got any cites to verifiable facts,
    links…?

    When you post that an activity is flatout illegal it’s customary to
    point to something other than "because I said so" or "once upon a time
    this guy…".

    Allow me to rewrite your original post: "I think that’s illegal, but
    I’m not sure".
     —–

    - gpsman

  15. admin says:

    >> "Marc" <n…@all.com> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1e91f6efb5de019e9896ac@netnews.mchsi.com…
    >> > Hi all,

    >> > Just wanted to get a quick confirmation about the Bushnell Speedster II
    >> > and Velocity model radar guns.   I’m a security director for a
    >> > subdivision that has a public road running on the periphery of the
    >> > properties..   Would either of these Bushnell models trigger an
    >> > automobile radar detector for purposes of getting their attention?
    >> > We’ve had 2 kids recently almost hit and there are already signs posted
    >> > and all.

    What were the circumstances?  Sounds like a case where parents and kids
    mistaken the roadway for a playground.  Maybe you should speak to the parents
    and make sure they supervise their kids properly.  
    ————–
    Alex

  16. admin says:

    In article <Xns9793C6482D4E4jyanikkua…@129.250.170.85>, jya…@abuse.gov
    says…

    >Which is illegal;you cannot transmit for the purpose of setting off a radar
    >detector.

    You need to tell that to the responsible organization that puts up the
    unmanned transmitters up and down I95 in CT.

    >Kids can and will dart out in front of a car -doing the speed limit- and
    >get crunched,too. Keep your kids away from traffic.Put up a fence.

    It doesn’t matter.  The irresponsible parent who is not supervising their
    child will still blame the driver.
    ——————-
    Alex

  17. admin says:

    > Scott en Aztlán:
    > >unsubscribing we go.

    > Bullshit. I know you’re reading this, you lying twit. ;)

    Of course he is "reading this," Scott. Trolls wouldn’t have anything to
    get off on if they didn’t read the replies…  ;)

  18. admin says:

    In article <mdvj225e96qn5l9rj5vft3npuqi78m3…@4ax.com>,
    Scott en Aztlán  <newsgroup> wrote:

    >On 28 Mar 2006 17:11:08 GMT, Jim Yanik <jya…@abuse.gov> wrote:

    >>Besides,I believe you have to have a license to operate any transmitter in
    >>those freqs.

    >So every cop is required to hold a radio operator’s license?

    >Hey, Jaybird! What’s your callsign? ;)

    All the cops running radar have the same callsign…. KPIG.  They used
    to use XPIG but everyone’s on to that one by now, though the Mexicans
    still use it.


      There’s no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
      result in a fully-depreciated one.

  19. admin says:

    Scott en Aztlán <scottenazt…@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:mdvj225e96qn5l9rj5vft3npuqi78m33ll@4ax.com:

    > On 28 Mar 2006 17:11:08 GMT, Jim Yanik <jya…@abuse.gov> wrote:

    >>Besides,I believe you have to have a license to operate any
    >>transmitter in those freqs.

    > So every cop is required to hold a radio operator’s license?

    No,the department holds the operating license.


    Jim Yanik
    jyanik
    at
    kua.net

  20. admin says:

    > No,the department holds the operating license.

    > —

    So I guess it’s safe to speed, as long as you aren’t near the PD building.
    Licenses are issued by geographic location of transmitting antenna.  -Dave

  21. admin says:

    "Mike T." <no…@nohow.not> wrote

    >> No,the department holds the operating license.

    > So I guess it’s safe to speed, as long as you aren’t near the PD building.
    > Licenses are issued by geographic location of transmitting antenna.  -Dave

    Not for portable radios.

    FloydR

  22. admin says:

    In article <mdvj225e96qn5l9rj5vft3npuqi78m3…@4ax.com>,
    scottenazt…@yahoo.com says…

    >On 28 Mar 2006 17:11:08 GMT, Jim Yanik <jya…@abuse.gov> wrote:

    >>Besides,I believe you have to have a license to operate any transmitter in
    >>those freqs.

    >So every cop is required to hold a radio operator’s license?

    The PD will have a license that covers their officers.
    —————
    Alex