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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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  Andrew Koren (kore...@gibbs.oit.unc.edu) wrote: &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;: We test drove both cars today and have a hard time deciding which to get &lt;br&gt; : it is obvious the prizm is the better car, but we don&#039;t want to spend (can&#039;t &lt;br&gt; : afford ) the money on it (about $5,000 more), but can &#160;be convinced to do &lt;br&gt; : so if the metro is not worth it. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;: the metro has exellent gas milage (around 40) which is very tempting. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;: any thoughts on the matter? &lt;br&gt; How about your safety. The Prism (probably) has dual airbags and is &lt;br&gt; significantly bigger than a Metro. Which car would you rather be in in &lt;br&gt; case of an accident? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; --Dave &lt;br&gt; sp...@telerama.lm.com &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Koren (kore&#8230;@gibbs.oit.unc.edu) wrote: </p>
<p>: We test drove both cars today and have a hard time deciding which to get <br /> : it is obvious the prizm is the better car, but we don&#8217;t want to spend (can&#8217;t <br /> : afford ) the money on it (about $5,000 more), but can &nbsp;be convinced to do <br /> : so if the metro is not worth it. <br /> 
<p>: the metro has exellent gas milage (around 40) which is very tempting.  </p>
<p>: any thoughts on the matter? <br /> How about your safety. The Prism (probably) has dual airbags and is <br /> significantly bigger than a Metro. Which car would you rather be in in <br /> case of an accident?  </p>
<p>&#8211;  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &#8211;Dave <br /> <a href="mailto:sp...@telerama.lm.com">sp&#8230;@telerama.lm.com</a> </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;2vdegg$...@bigblue.oit.unc.edu&gt;, kore...@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Andrew Koren) writes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&#124;&gt; We test drove both cars today and have a hard time deciding which to get &lt;br&gt; &#124;&gt; it is obvious the prizm is the better car, but we don&#039;t want to spend (can&#039;t &lt;br&gt; &#124;&gt; afford ) the money on it (about $5,000 more), but can &#160;be convinced to do &lt;br&gt; &#124;&gt; so if the metro is not worth it. &lt;br&gt; &#124;&gt; &lt;br&gt; &#124;&gt; the metro has exellent gas milage (around 40) which is very tempting. &lt;br&gt; &#124;&gt; &lt;br&gt; &#124;&gt; any thoughts on the matter? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Well, I have a &#039;93 Geo Metro (I&#039;ll wait for the giggles to subside) and I &lt;br&gt; have no complaints about the car (except for lack of power, but we all know &lt;br&gt; that anyway). &#160;If you opt for the manual tranny, you&#039;ll get closer to 50 or 55 &lt;br&gt; mpg on the highway and low 40&#039;s in town (with the A/C on, stop and go, etc.) &lt;br&gt; I didn&#039;t bother test driving the Prizm (well beyond my budget). &#160;Insurance on &lt;br&gt; the Prizm would probably be much better, as many young people (read &lt;br&gt; &quot;high risk&quot;) drive Metros. &#160;When I bought my car I was single, male, under 25, &lt;br&gt; and was paying almost $1700 per year with State Farm. &#160;I got married a couple &lt;br&gt; of weeks ago, and it went down to about $1300 per year (no accidents, or tickets, &lt;br&gt; ever!) &#160;Feel free to e-mail me if you have any specific questions. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Pat &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; ya...@shab00.larc.nasa.gov &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;2vdegg$&#8230;@bigblue.oit.unc.edu&gt;, <a href="mailto:kore...@gibbs.oit.unc.edu">kore&#8230;@gibbs.oit.unc.edu</a> (Andrew Koren) writes: </p>
<p>|&gt; We test drove both cars today and have a hard time deciding which to get <br /> |&gt; it is obvious the prizm is the better car, but we don&#8217;t want to spend (can&#8217;t <br /> |&gt; afford ) the money on it (about $5,000 more), but can &nbsp;be convinced to do <br /> |&gt; so if the metro is not worth it. <br /> |&gt; <br /> |&gt; the metro has exellent gas milage (around 40) which is very tempting. <br /> |&gt; <br /> |&gt; any thoughts on the matter? <br /> 
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Well, I have a &#8217;93 Geo Metro (I&#8217;ll wait for the giggles to subside) and I <br /> have no complaints about the car (except for lack of power, but we all know <br /> that anyway). &nbsp;If you opt for the manual tranny, you&#8217;ll get closer to 50 or 55 <br /> mpg on the highway and low 40&#8242;s in town (with the A/C on, stop and go, etc.) <br /> I didn&#8217;t bother test driving the Prizm (well beyond my budget). &nbsp;Insurance on <br /> the Prizm would probably be much better, as many young people (read <br /> &quot;high risk&quot;) drive Metros. &nbsp;When I bought my car I was single, male, under 25, <br /> and was paying almost $1700 per year with State Farm. &nbsp;I got married a couple <br /> of weeks ago, and it went down to about $1300 per year (no accidents, or tickets, <br /> ever!) &nbsp;Feel free to e-mail me if you have any specific questions.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Pat  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="mailto:ya...@shab00.larc.nasa.gov">ya&#8230;@shab00.larc.nasa.gov</a> </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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  Andrew - As I recall, you sent me e-mail about leasing v.buying. There is &lt;br&gt; an excellent article in the July issue of Automobile about leasing. If I &lt;br&gt; didn&#039;t answer your questions to your satisfaction, don&#039;t hesitate to e-mail &lt;br&gt; me again. Leasing is harder to qualify for, but has its advantages. &lt;br&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Since I am the finance manager in a Chev/Geo store, perhaps I can &lt;br&gt; offer some advice on the Prizm/Metro question. If the budget is simply very &lt;br&gt; tight, go for the Metro. Don&#039;t expect a big discount. Invoice on the 5 speed &lt;br&gt; is $7,229 and MSRP is $7,695. There really isn&#039;t enough profit in a Metro to &lt;br&gt; pay the overhead even selling it at sticker. If you are going to be driving &lt;br&gt; principally around town, the Metro is a great choice.Frankly, I have concerns &lt;br&gt; about the longevity of that engine if you do a lot of highway driving. &lt;br&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; If you can stretch for it, go for the Prizm. It is a sweet car. &lt;br&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; GMAC has a finance program that may help you get into a Prizm - it &lt;br&gt; it is called SmartBuy. It works much like a lease, and it generally will lower &lt;br&gt; your payments compared to what they would be on a regular purchase. (The lower &lt;br&gt; payment doesn&#039;t ALWAYS happen, depending on some of the variables of the deal, &lt;br&gt; that&#039;s why I said &#039;generally&#039;.) Ask your salesperson about it - they should be &lt;br&gt; well versed in it. If they aren &lt;br&gt; aren&#039;t, phone the finance manager and get the details. It is a good program and &lt;br&gt; will help you get more car for your money. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Best regards- &lt;br&gt; Paul Cruce &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew &#8211; As I recall, you sent me e-mail about leasing v.buying. There is <br /> an excellent article in the July issue of Automobile about leasing. If I <br /> didn&#8217;t answer your questions to your satisfaction, don&#8217;t hesitate to e-mail <br /> me again. Leasing is harder to qualify for, but has its advantages. <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Since I am the finance manager in a Chev/Geo store, perhaps I can <br /> offer some advice on the Prizm/Metro question. If the budget is simply very <br /> tight, go for the Metro. Don&#8217;t expect a big discount. Invoice on the 5 speed <br /> is $7,229 and MSRP is $7,695. There really isn&#8217;t enough profit in a Metro to <br /> pay the overhead even selling it at sticker. If you are going to be driving <br /> principally around town, the Metro is a great choice.Frankly, I have concerns <br /> about the longevity of that engine if you do a lot of highway driving. <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; If you can stretch for it, go for the Prizm. It is a sweet car. <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; GMAC has a finance program that may help you get into a Prizm &#8211; it <br /> it is called SmartBuy. It works much like a lease, and it generally will lower <br /> your payments compared to what they would be on a regular purchase. (The lower <br /> payment doesn&#8217;t ALWAYS happen, depending on some of the variables of the deal, <br /> that&#8217;s why I said &#8216;generally&#8217;.) Ask your salesperson about it &#8211; they should be <br /> well versed in it. If they aren <br /> aren&#8217;t, phone the finance manager and get the details. It is a good program and <br /> will help you get more car for your money. <br /> 
<p>Best regards- <br /> Paul Cruce </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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  The address is: &#160;bmw-requ...@balltown.cma.com &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Baldeep Matharu (matha...@p4.cs.man.ac.uk) wrote: &lt;br&gt; : b...@ug.cs.dal.ca (JKB) writes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;: &gt;Cold someone please post the req&#039;d info regarding how to get one&#039;s self &lt;br&gt; : &gt;on the BMW mailing list. &#160;I seem to have lost the address. &#160;thanks. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;: &gt;-- &lt;br&gt; : &gt; &#160;o__ &#160;__________________ Jeffrey K. Bray -Cruising the Biketrail Of Bad Luck &lt;br&gt; : &gt; _,&gt;/&#039;_ _________________ &quot;You don&#039;t have to spend the rest of your life &lt;br&gt; : &gt;(_) \(_) ________________ &#160;proving you&#039;re honest, but I do.&quot; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;: Simply email: bmw-requ...@balltown.cma.com asking them to add you to the &lt;br&gt; : list. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;: Easy as that! &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;: Bal. &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The address is: &nbsp;bmw-requ&#8230;@balltown.cma.com <br /> 
<p>Baldeep Matharu (matha&#8230;@p4.cs.man.ac.uk) wrote: <br /> : <a href="mailto:b...@ug.cs.dal.ca">b&#8230;@ug.cs.dal.ca</a> (JKB) writes: </p>
<p>: &gt;Cold someone please post the req&#8217;d info regarding how to get one&#8217;s self <br /> : &gt;on the BMW mailing list. &nbsp;I seem to have lost the address. &nbsp;thanks.  </p>
<p>: &gt;&#8211; <br /> : &gt; &nbsp;o__ &nbsp;__________________ Jeffrey K. Bray -Cruising the Biketrail Of Bad Luck <br /> : &gt; _,&gt;/&#8217;_ _________________ &quot;You don&#8217;t have to spend the rest of your life <br /> : &gt;(_) \(_) ________________ &nbsp;proving you&#8217;re honest, but I do.&quot;  </p>
<p>: Simply email: <a href="mailto:bmw-requ...@balltown.cma.com">bmw-requ&#8230;@balltown.cma.com</a> asking them to add you to the <br /> : list.  </p>
<p>: Easy as that!  </p>
<p>: Bal. </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;b...@ug.cs.dal.ca (JKB) writes: &lt;br&gt; &gt;Cold someone please post the req&#039;d info regarding how to get one&#039;s self &lt;br&gt; &gt;on the BMW mailing list. &#160;I seem to have lost the address. &#160;thanks. &lt;br&gt; &gt;-- &lt;br&gt; &gt; &#160;o__ &#160;__________________ Jeffrey K. Bray -Cruising the Biketrail Of Bad Luck &lt;br&gt; &gt; _,&gt;/&#039;_ _________________ &quot;You don&#039;t have to spend the rest of your life &lt;br&gt; &gt;(_) \(_) ________________ &#160;proving you&#039;re honest, but I do.&quot; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Simply email: bmw-requ...@balltown.cma.com asking them to add you to the &lt;br&gt; list. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Easy as that! &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Bal. &lt;br&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:b...@ug.cs.dal.ca">b&#8230;@ug.cs.dal.ca</a> (JKB) writes: <br /> &gt;Cold someone please post the req&#8217;d info regarding how to get one&#8217;s self <br /> &gt;on the BMW mailing list. &nbsp;I seem to have lost the address. &nbsp;thanks. <br /> &gt;&#8211; <br /> &gt; &nbsp;o__ &nbsp;__________________ Jeffrey K. Bray -Cruising the Biketrail Of Bad Luck <br /> &gt; _,&gt;/&#8217;_ _________________ &quot;You don&#8217;t have to spend the rest of your life <br /> &gt;(_) \(_) ________________ &nbsp;proving you&#8217;re honest, but I do.&quot; </p>
<p>Simply email: <a href="mailto:bmw-requ...@balltown.cma.com">bmw-requ&#8230;@balltown.cma.com</a> asking them to add you to the <br /> list.  </p>
<p>Easy as that!  </p>
<p>Bal. </p>
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