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55: And Then There Were (Please Help)

A friend of mine from New Jersey sent me an article about a state
representative from Middlesex who introduced legislation Sept. 15
to raise the speed limit to 65.

The article said that New Jersey was one of EIGHT states which still
had a 55 mph speed limit.

I thought that nine states still had 55:  Alaska and Delaware (with
no eligible roads), Hawaii, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
Connecticut, Maryland, and New Jersey.  Should I eliminate one of
those states from the list?

Joe Naiman

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  1. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep24.191804.3…@photon.com> j…@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:
    >The article said that New Jersey was one of EIGHT states which still
    >had a 55 mph speed limit.
    >I thought that nine states still had 55:  Alaska and Delaware (with
    >no eligible roads), Hawaii, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
    >Connecticut, Maryland, and New Jersey.  Should I eliminate one of
    >those states from the list?

    alaska has no highways which could qualify for 65.  i’m not sure
    that hawaii has any significant mileage that would qualify.  rhode
    island sure doesn’t have much mileage of that type.

    NY, CT, MA, NJ, and PA are all 55 states, although i think that
    PA is on the verge of going over to 65, although the governer
    continues to threaten a veto.

    richard

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  2. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep24.191804.3…@photon.com> j…@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:

    >A friend of mine from New Jersey sent me an article about a state
    >representative from Middlesex who introduced legislation Sept. 15
    >to raise the speed limit to 65.

    >The article said that New Jersey was one of EIGHT states which still
    >had a 55 mph speed limit.

    >I thought that nine states still had 55:  Alaska and Delaware (with
    >no eligible roads), Hawaii, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
    >Connecticut, Maryland, and New Jersey.  Should I eliminate one of
    >those states from the list?

    Pennsylvania, I think.

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  3. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep24.191804.3…@photon.com>

    j…@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:
    > I thought that nine states still had 55:  Alaska and Delaware (with
    > no eligible roads), Hawaii, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
    > Connecticut, Maryland, and New Jersey.  Should I eliminate one of
    > those states from the list?

    Hawaii and Alaska don’t count since they don’t have any eligible
    interstates.  But you forgot Massachusetts.  Funny how they’re all in
    the northeast, huh?

    Bri

  4. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep24.191804.3…@photon.com> j…@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:
    >I thought that nine states still had 55:  Alaska and Delaware (with

                                               ^^^^^^

    >no eligible roads), Hawaii, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
    >Connecticut, Maryland, and New Jersey.  Should I eliminate one of
    >those states from the list?

            Alaska’s rural highway speed limit is 60 mph.

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  5. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep27.200646.10…@eng.umd.edu> russo…@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes:

    >In article <1992Sep24.191804.3…@photon.com> j…@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:
    >>I thought that nine states still had 55:  Alaska and Delaware (with

    >Pennsylvania, I think.

    [WRT Penn having 65 mph speed limit.]

    Definately not!!!

    Pennsylvania has those beautiful green and yellow signs that let you know
    that "Pennsylvania state speed limit STILL 55 MPH!!!"

    Damn communist state. Just like CT.

    Cheers,

    Doug


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  6. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep27.204311.7…@cs.yale.edu> fields-d…@CS.YALE.EDU (Doug Fields) writes:
    >In article <1992Sep27.200646.10…@eng.umd.edu> russo…@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes:

    >[WRT Penn having 65 mph speed limit.]

    >Definately not!!!

    >Pennsylvania has those beautiful green and yellow signs that let you know
    >that "Pennsylvania state speed limit STILL 55 MPH!!!"

    Oh well.

    MD has yellow and black signs which say "STILL!" located above the
    speed limit 55 signs at various places (state borders, near airports,
    at the start of I-270).  Just good old Gov Schaefer thumbing his nose
    at the citizens of the state.


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  7. admin says:

    When you do know it is safe to speed without getting caught by highway
    patrol?  A friend told me when you see all the semi tractor-trialer
    truckers speeding that you can assume you are in a safe zone to speed
    until you notice they slow down to 55 again.  
    Any thoughts?

    Richard Banks

  8. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep27.204311.7…@cs.yale.edu> fields-d…@CS.YALE.EDU (Doug Fields) writes:
    >Pennsylvania has those beautiful green and yellow signs that let you know
    >that "Pennsylvania state speed limit STILL 55 MPH!!!"

    >Damn communist state. Just like CT.

    Maryland has those silly signs, too.  I chuckle as I whiz by at a
    "slightly modified" speed.  8^)

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  9. admin says:

    In article <1a5do1INN…@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ah…@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks) writes:

    >When you do know it is safe to speed without getting caught by highway
    >patrol?  A friend told me when you see all the semi tractor-trialer
    >truckers speeding that you can assume you are in a safe zone to speed
    >until you notice they slow down to 55 again.  
    >Any thoughts?

    This concept can be generalized to include all fast moving vehicles.
    Just the other weekend my butt was saved by some old geezer in a white
    Nissan Sentra who was bound and determined to prove that his car was
    better than mine. After allowing him to pass me, I sped up and followed
    him (he was going around 80 MPH) at a safe distance. Sure enough, as he
    topped a small rise, his brake lights came on full. I slowed down just
    in time to see a trooper parked at the bottom of the hill. Although he
    was alert and spotted the cop in time to slow down himself, even if he
    didn’t the cop would have nailed him first leaving me free and clear.

    This could be called the Roger Ramjet Radar Shield. ;-)

  10. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep27.193106.27…@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Brian.E.Han…@dartmouth.edu (Brian E. Hannon) writes:

    >In article <1992Sep24.191804.3…@photon.com>
    >j…@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:

    >> I thought that nine states still had 55:  Alaska and Delaware (with
    >> no eligible roads), Hawaii, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
    >> Connecticut, Maryland, and New Jersey.  Should I eliminate one of
    >> those states from the list?

    >Hawaii and Alaska don’t count since they don’t have any eligible
    >interstates.  But you forgot Massachusetts.  Funny how they’re all in
    >the northeast, huh?

    Nope, as I understand it, there are now sections of the Mass Turnpike
    that is 65 mph.  That happened earlier this year (1992).

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  11. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep27.193106.27…@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Brian.E.Han…@dartmouth.edu (Brian E. Hannon) writes:

    >In article <1992Sep24.191804.3…@photon.com>
    >j…@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:

    >> I thought that nine states still had 55:  ….
    >But you forgot Massachusetts.  Funny how they’re all in
    >the northeast, huh?
    >Bri

         Western portions of the Mass Pike (starting about 30 miles out of
    Boston) are now 65 through to the NY state line.

         Now if we can just get some of the other places the government
    prostitutes the law to raise revenue fixed up…

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  12. admin says:

    Brian.E.Han…@dartmouth.edu (Brian E. Hannon) writes:

    >j…@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:
    >> I thought that nine states still had 55:  Alaska and Delaware (with
    >> no eligible roads)

    The max limit in Alaska is 60, not 55.  Or has this changed?  (Again…)

    >Hawaii and Alaska don’t count since they don’t have any eligible
    >interstates.  But you forgot Massachusetts.  Funny how they’re all in
    >the northeast, huh?

    Two pieces of the Mass Pike are up to 65.  (And none of this half-assed
    "65 only for vehicles of type N".)  It’s a start…

    andrew

  13. admin says:

    In article <1a5do1INN…@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ah…@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks) writes:

    >When you do know it is safe to speed without getting caught by highway
    >patrol?  A friend told me when you see all the semi tractor-trialer
    >truckers speeding that you can assume you are in a safe zone to speed
    >until you notice they slow down to 55 again.  
    >Any thoughts?

    You can never KNOW it is safe.  If the opportunity presents itself, I
    get behind and to the right of a speeding semi– since the radar cops
    tend to be in the median, they can’t read a car in that position.  But
    you still have to watch out for cops on the right side, or cops
    behind, pacing you.

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  14. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep25.195757.18…@cabot.balltown.cma.COM> we…@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty) writes:
    >In article <1992Sep24.191804.3…@photon.com> j…@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:
    >>The article said that New Jersey was one of EIGHT states which still
    >>had a 55 mph speed limit.

    >>I thought that nine states still had 55:  Alaska and Delaware (with
    >>no eligible roads), Hawaii, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
    >>Connecticut, Maryland, and New Jersey.  Should I eliminate one of
    >>those states from the list?

    >alaska has no highways which could qualify for 65.  i’m not sure
    >that hawaii has any significant mileage that would qualify.  rhode
    >island sure doesn’t have much mileage of that type.

    Hawaii has about 15 miles or so (all of I-H2, ewa end of I-H1) of road
    that would qualify, but the Waihee and Fasi administrations gain too
    much revenue from having HPD run radar traps on those segments, so they
    stay 55…for more details, see the NMA "Driver’s Handbook" listing
    for Hawaii…

    On a somewhat related note, there was a front page story in the Dayton
    Daily News this week about the DPD’s new $3500 lidar guns, so draw
    your own conclusions…


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  15. admin says:

    In article <BvAzFw….@cs.columbia.edu> a…@cs.columbia.edu (andrew m. boardman) writes:

    >The max limit in Alaska is 60, not 55.  Or has this changed?  (Again…)

    What roads in Alaska have posted speed limits of 60 mph?  My
    understanding of the federal 65 mph legislation of a few years back
    is that states which want to keep receiving federal highway funds may
    set speed limits no higher than 55 mph, with only two exceptions, where
    the limit may go up as high as 65 mph:

    1)  Rural interstate highways (where "rural" is defined by some bogus
        population-density criterion).

    2)  (If and only if the state has applied to be one of thirty-odd
        states that can get this exemption:)  Non-interstate rural
        highways that are built to the same standards as interstates.

    I know that Alaska doesn’t have any real interstate highways, and
    I can’t imagine that it has many limited-access multilane divided
    highways (i.e., interstate-quality roads) except perhaps in the
    immediate "Los Anchorage" area.  So where are these 60 mph-limit
    roads, and what type of highways are they?

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  16. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep27.193106.27…@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Brian.E.Han…@dartmouth.edu (Brian E. Hannon) writes…

    >In article <1992Sep24.191804.3…@photon.com>
    >j…@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:

    >> I thought that nine states still had 55:  Alaska and Delaware (with
    >> no eligible roads), Hawaii, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
    >> Connecticut, Maryland, and New Jersey.  Should I eliminate one of
    >> those states from the list?

    >Hawaii and Alaska don’t count since they don’t have any eligible
    >interstates.  But you forgot Massachusetts.  Funny how they’re all in
    >the northeast, huh?

    Some western stretches of the Mass Pike (rte 90) are
    signed for 65 mph.

    >Bri

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  17. admin says:

    In article <1992Sep25.195757.18…@cabot.balltown.cma.COM>,
    we…@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty) writes:

    |> alaska has no highways which could qualify for 65.  i’m not sure
    |> that hawaii has any significant mileage that would qualify.  rhode
    |> island sure doesn’t have much mileage of that type.
    |>
    |> NY, CT, MA, NJ, and PA are all 55 states, although i think that
    |> PA is on the verge of going over to 65, although the governer
    |> continues to threaten a veto.
    |>
    |> richard

    MA raised the speed limit to 65 on the Mass Pike (I90) west of Auburn (dropping
    to 55 in and around Springfield). Every other major Interstate still has a
    55 mph limit, even in the rural areas that would qualify for 65.
    (mumble mumble *^*&^*^ hypocrites mumble mumble)

    Luckily, MA troopers won’t usually touch you for 70 or under anywhere
    unless you are the only one on the road, it’s the end of the month or s/he’s
    having a really bad day…..

    -Jeff


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